Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/13/2013 04:59 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El dom, 13-01-2013 a las 04:54 -0800, Zac Medico escribió: On 01/13/2013 04:18 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: What about this approach? You should use ${SLOT%/*}, in order to exclude the sub-slot, because you don't care about the sub-slot and the slash

[gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
I've seen this pop up a lot recently: * One or more symlinks to directories have been preserved in order to * ensure that files installed via these symlinks remain accessible. This * indicates that the mentioned symlink(s) may be obsolete remnants of an * old install, and it may be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 01:33 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: I've seen this pop up a lot recently: * One or more symlinks to directories have been preserved in order to * ensure that files installed via these symlinks remain accessible. This * indicates that the mentioned symlink(s) may be obsolete

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lifting the HOMEPAGE requirement for ebuilds

2013-01-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 13 January 2013 18:06, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/13/2013 07:03 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/13/2013 09:43 AM, hasufell wrote: On 01/13/2013 03:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, Right now an attempt to commit an ebuild with no HOMEPAGE results in: HOMEPAGE.missing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Steven J. Long wrote: What I'm not in favour of is making the simple cases more difficult, to deal with the complex ones. It's completely brain-dead thinking. This is exactly what some people think or say when they learn that I use Gentoo. I appreciate Gentoo because I am able and willing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 04:44 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 01:33 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: I've seen this pop up a lot recently: * One or more symlinks to directories have been preserved in order to * ensure that files installed via these symlinks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 06:46 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: This particular symlink was put there by openrc though, wasn't it? Yeah, openrc uses the migrate_to_run function from /etc/init.d/bootmisc. So I'd expect that on the whole this should be left for openrc to deal with or otherwise left to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 09:57 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 06:46 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: This particular symlink was put there by openrc though, wasn't it? Yeah, openrc uses the migrate_to_run function from /etc/init.d/bootmisc. So I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 14/01/13 09:57 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 06:46 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: This particular symlink was put there by openrc though, wasn't it? Yeah, openrc uses the migrate_to_run function from /etc/init.d/bootmisc. So I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 07:44 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: OK i'm a little confused. Putting my earlier note aside, if the symlink will be auto-cleaned after no packages use it, what's the point/need for the original message from portage then?? Is it just QA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 10:53 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:44 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: OK i'm a little confused. Putting my earlier note aside, if the symlink will be auto-cleaned after no packages use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 08:26 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 14/01/13 10:53 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:44 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: OK i'm a little confused. Putting my earlier note aside, if the symlink will be auto-cleaned after no packages use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 11:36 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 08:26 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 14/01/13 10:53 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:44 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/14/2013 07:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: OK i'm a little confused.

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-emulation/qemu-user mask

2013-01-14 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: В письме от 14 января 2013 00:38:06 пользователь Doug Goldstein написал: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi! For cross-chroots its needed to have static qemu-$arch user

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 09:00 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: At least then we can see if there really is a benefit to changing how it is now. I can probably hack an install so that the /var/run migration can be redone, for testing.. It might be a lot simpler to just go and patch all the ebuilds that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lifting the HOMEPAGE requirement for ebuilds

2013-01-14 Thread hasufell
On 01/14/2013 11:06 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 13 January 2013 18:06, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/13/2013 07:03 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/13/2013 09:43 AM, hasufell wrote: On 01/13/2013 03:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, Right now an attempt to commit an ebuild with no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 14/01/2013 18:14, Zac Medico wrote: It might be a lot simpler to just go and patch all the ebuilds that installed stuff in /var/run with a one-liner like this at the end of src_install: It's a good idea to do so to avoid the check coming from portage to happena nd waste time, but ... Once

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-14 Thread Dan Douglas
On Sunday, January 13, 2013 06:02:26 PM Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:36:59 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: local -i ret ? Looks good. I didn't even know bash has something like that. Useless use of -i is usually unhelpful. In Bash (but not all shells), it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/14/2013 09:23 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 14/01/2013 18:14, Zac Medico wrote: It might be a lot simpler to just go and patch all the ebuilds that installed stuff in /var/run with a one-liner like this at the end of src_install: It's a good idea to do so to avoid the check coming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify log message?

2013-01-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 14/01/2013 18:32, Zac Medico wrote: Ah, right! So, those packages also need to be patched to use /run directly, instead of relying on the symlink. Or the symlink should just stay for however long that's going to take, which is probably a good idea, as it does not bother anyone. I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-14 Thread Dan Douglas
On Sunday, January 13, 2013 01:28:42 PM Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2013 08:29:43 Michał Górny wrote: + [[ ${BUILD_DIR} ]] || die ${FUNCNAME}: BUILD_DIR not set. really should use -n there Doesn't matter. Only zsh requires it (and pointlessly disagrees with every other

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2013-01-14 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:44:58 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Pacho Ramos schrieb: El mar, 25-09-2012 a las 10:21 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:49:13 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: It is not hard by itself to inherit an eclass. There is

[gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

2013-01-14 Thread Oleksii Shevchuk
Hi list! After introducing eudev, is there any reason to do systemd/udev split?

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

2013-01-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Yes. I don't want systemd and I don't want eudev. And I'm not alone I'm sure.

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

2013-01-14 Thread Georg Rudoy
2013/1/14 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: I don't want systemd and I don't want eudev. And I'm not alone I'm sure. You are definitely not alone (though I'm not a gentoo dev). I think it makes sense to keep it split as long as udev is buildable without systemd and until eudev proves

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

2013-01-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: I don't want systemd and I don't want eudev. And I'm not alone I'm sure. ++ If it costs me 1200 seconds of CPU time and 40 millicents in electricity twice I year I can live with that... Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
William is packaging upstream udev for Gentoo. You are shooting the messenger. I expect there is 0 blame meant for William. P.s. Is it William that Lennart dished some blame in the direction of. I completely disagree. It's not the job of every distro to look for all build flags to fix

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2013-01-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:04:45 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:44:58 +0100 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Please keep in mind, that the USE flags are different, depending on your arch. E.g. on amd64, you may additionally have x86 and x32,

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 01:06 PM, Oleksii Shevchuk wrote: Hi list! After introducing eudev, is there any reason to do systemd/udev split? Ask in 6 months to a year, after eudev is fully established and has a solid track record. -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 06:04:01AM +, Steven J. Long wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 William Hubbs wrote: Steven J. Long wrote: If you're certain that every user with a current simple setup, who uses the kernel default names, and has such a firewall setup isn't going to suddenly find

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

2013-01-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 01:59:14PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 01:06 PM, Oleksii Shevchuk wrote: Hi list! After introducing eudev, is there any reason to do systemd/udev split? Ask in 6 months to a year, after eudev

Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd/udev split

2013-01-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:28 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: The only time I see eudev replacing udev as our default is if the systemd guys actually kill udev on non-systemd systems. Seems likely to me, but anticipating about 300 replies to your post, I think we're all agreed that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-14 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dan Douglas orm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, January 13, 2013 06:02:26 PM Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:36:59 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: local -i ret ? Looks good. I didn't even know bash has something like that. Useless

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lifting the HOMEPAGE requirement for ebuilds

2013-01-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 14-01-2013 a las 18:15 +0100, hasufell escribió: [...] +1 to allow empty/missing HOMEPAGE variable dead homepage = useless http://gentoo.org = useless https://bugs.gentoo.org = too obvious An empty homepage usually means the package is dead. I'd rather see the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-01-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
[CC'ing this to core so noone can complain afterwards.] Since 48h did not lead to any responses positive or negative, I'll start implementing the procedure as given in the original e-mail (quoted below). As also said below, each arch will get a mail before I touch their profile tree and after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lifting the HOMEPAGE requirement for ebuilds

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 03:15 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El lun, 14-01-2013 a las 18:15 +0100, hasufell escribió: [...] +1 to allow empty/missing HOMEPAGE variable dead homepage = useless http://gentoo.org = useless https://bugs.gentoo.org = too obvious

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lifting the HOMEPAGE requirement for ebuilds

2013-01-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 14-01-2013 a las 15:49 -0500, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/01/13 03:15 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El lun, 14-01-2013 a las 18:15 +0100, hasufell escribió: [...] +1 to allow empty/missing HOMEPAGE variable dead homepage = useless

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lifting the HOMEPAGE requirement for ebuilds

2013-01-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 14 January 2013 15:15:03 Pacho Ramos wrote: El lun, 14-01-2013 a las 18:15 +0100, hasufell escribió: [...] +1 to allow empty/missing HOMEPAGE variable dead homepage = useless http://gentoo.org = useless https://bugs.gentoo.org = too obvious An empty homepage

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 14 January 2013 12:55:29 Dan Douglas wrote: On Sunday, January 13, 2013 01:28:42 PM Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2013 08:29:43 Michał Górny wrote: + [[ ${BUILD_DIR} ]] || die ${FUNCNAME}: BUILD_DIR not set. really should use -n there Doesn't matter. Only zsh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-14 Thread Peter Stuge
William Hubbs wrote: I have a bug opened with the docs team and release engineering to discuss whether we want the new names for new installs. IMO yes we do. What's that bug - or what is the good way to thumbs up/down? //Peter pgpswXbIiseJI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:25:01AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: William Hubbs wrote: I have a bug opened with the docs team and release engineering to discuss whether we want the new names for new installs. IMO yes we do. What's that bug - or what is the good way to thumbs up/down?

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-14 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted on Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:09:51 -0500 as excerpted: + [[ ${BUILD_DIR} ]] || die ${FUNCNAME}: BUILD_DIR not set. really should use -n there Doesn't matter. the point wasn't will it work. it's more how easy is it to glance at code and know what it is doing. Indeed.

[gentoo-dev] Chromium system ffmpeg

2013-01-14 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
I'm trying to make Chromium be more compatible with more versions of ffmpeg: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/topic/chromium-dev/fm5Oe_AC3Sc/discussion (although not stated there, that includes libav). Now the initial response there is not enthusiastic (which doesn't surprise me), but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-14 Thread Dan Douglas
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 03:20:20 AM Duncan wrote: Mike Frysinger posted on Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:09:51 -0500 as excerpted: + [[ ${BUILD_DIR} ]] || die ${FUNCNAME}: BUILD_DIR not set. really should use -n there Doesn't matter. the point wasn't will it work. it's more how

[gentoo-dev] Stable sys-devel/gcc USE flag changes WAS: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: ChangeLog toolchain.eclass

2013-01-14 Thread Michael Weber
Hi folks, this commit changes the set of USE flags on the just stabled gcc-4.6, running a huge number into an rebuild of an freshly updated package. (emerge --newuse recaclulates from go disabled to go missing) Wouldn't it be possible to a) refrain from this change (really, who has USE=go turned

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Support MULTILIB_USEDEP for writing USE-deps.

2013-01-14 Thread Michał Górny
Although the eclass does 'multilib?' only now, in the future it is likely to use more fine-tuned ABI flags. --- gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass | 12 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+) diff --git a/gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass b/gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass