Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-18 Thread Fabio Erculiani
Good news. I've been able to make logind work with OpenRC and GNOME 3.6 (which means that GNOME 3.8 can work as well). Disclaimer: I use systemd as device manager. I don't know if my logind (there is a bug about it) works with udev without further hacking. See:

Re: [gentoo-dev] readme.gentoo.eclass: Add a note informing people a file is being installed for future reference

2013-05-18 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 14-05-2013 a las 23:54 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: El mar, 14-05-2013 a las 23:27 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: On Tue, 14 May 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: As discussed at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457598#c4 we need a way to inform users the ebuild is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45:18PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote No one is arguing against that. All this thread is about is making systemd a first-class citizen, like OpenRC/Sysvinit, so it will be as smooth as possible for someone who wants to switch between the two. It seems that some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 18. Mai 2013, 19:02:12 schrieb Walter Dnes: [snip] Having a package to install every systemd unit in existence just clutters the end user's system and makes it harder to tell which units are actually valid. Yet openrc users are supposed to accept having their systems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: The decision was made long ago. Use flags are not the correct way to control solely the installation of a few small files. This was really the heart of the discussion where the decision was made before. USE flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: CPU use flag detection

2013-05-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2013 16:59:57 +0200 yac y...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, I was recently investigating what cpu flags do I have and how does it work. I have put what I have so far at [1]. So I thought I let you know in case

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-18 Thread Carlos Silva
Is the real problem just the god damn unit/init files?! Damn, who cares about 2KiB files in the age of GiBs?! You can install 1000 of them that it will only take 2MiB of storage, so please, quit complaining about this. One thing dev's should take care is (not that affects me, 'cause I really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: CPU use flag detection

2013-05-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:14:35PM -0700, Matt Turner wrote The particularly annoying thing about using them is that there's no -mmmx2 or -mmmxext... Now that you mention it... [i660][waltdnes][~] grep mmxext /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc media-libs/libpostproc:mmxext - Enable mmx2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-18 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:02:12PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45:18PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote No one is arguing against that. All this thread is about is making systemd a first-class citizen, like OpenRC/Sysvinit, so it will be as smooth as possible for