Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 03-06-2013 a las 00:35 +0200, Luca Barbato escribió: [...] > To not make this a waste of time here a summary of the whole thing: > > - eselect init will be opt-in for the time being, people can be left on > their own tools if the want it > - the default init will stay sysvinit. Discussion

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Duncan
Luca Barbato posted on Mon, 03 Jun 2013 00:35:29 +0200 as excerpted: > To not make this a waste of time here a summary of the whole thing: > > - eselect init will be opt-in for the time being, people can be left on > their own tools if the want it - the default init will stay sysvinit. > Discussi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote > >> - eselect init will be opt-in ***FOR THE TIME BEING***, people can >> be left on their own tools if the want it > > This statement should bring the same reaction as the posting

[gentoo-dev] Draft news item: preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12

2013-06-02 Thread Zac Medico
Please review the attached news item which announces the preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12. Note that our council has discussed this change in their 2013-05-14 meeting [1], and they were in favor of allowing it. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2448/focus=2452 -- T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote > - eselect init will be opt-in ***FOR THE TIME BEING***, people can > be left on their own tools if the want it This statement should bring the same reaction as the posting that udev source was being rolled into the systemd tarball.

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-06-02 23h59 UTC

2013-06-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-06-02 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-sound/timidity-shompatches2013-05-27 05:32:45 ulm sys-apps/kuroevtd 2013-05-27 05:36:06 ulm app-admi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Luca Barbato
On 06/02/2013 08:20 PM, Steven J. Long wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 11:15:37AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: >> On 06/01/2013 11:23 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: >>> That's not an argument for using a symlink switcher or the >>> equivalent across the board, by any means. >> >> Your opinion. > > That'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: MySQL/MariaDB packages dropping support for PrimeBase (PBXT) engine

2013-06-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 02:32:53PM +0200, viv...@gmail.com wrote: > On 06/01/13 02:37, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > See attached the draft news item for MySQL/MariaDB dropping PBXT > > support. > from the draft: > "All users who have data stored in PBXT-backed tables should convert t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Steven J. Long wrote: > [...] > The whole symlink/boot/fallback thing is simply a waste of technical effort. > And blanket "your opinion" and "you didn't comment a week ago, so I don't > have to deal with the substance of your points" don't change that. Waste? We

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 11:15:37AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 06/01/2013 11:23 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: > > That's not an argument for using a symlink switcher or the > > equivalent across the board, by any means. > > Your opinion. That's not an argument for it either. > > Firstly, we sho

[gentoo-dev] Re: evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sat, Jun 01, 2013 at 11:03:20PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > simple set of helpers to save/restore a variable in a limited section of code > > you can see an example of it in action at the end of the file where i need to > tweak epatch (and no, doing `LC_COLLATE=C set -- ` does not work).

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 2. Juni 2013, 17:40:45 schrieb Mike Frysinger: > > i snipped the rest of your e-mail because it wasn't worth responding to > -mike Please. Save your social skills for other people. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 02 June 2013 04:39:32 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-06-02, o godz. 03:29:33 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > On Sunday 02 June 2013 03:16:53 Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 2013-06-02, o godz. 03:09:31 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > > > On Sunday 02 June 2013 02:51:34 Michał Górny wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-06-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2013 07:02 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Due c1pher lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs: > net-analyzer/ostinato > net-wireless/mdk I'll take these. - -Zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-06-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 06/02/2013 07:02 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Due c1pher lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs: app-benchmarks/ramspeed I'm the last person to have done some maintenance on ramspeed. I can take care of it. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: MySQL/MariaDB packages dropping support for PrimeBase (PBXT) engine

2013-06-02 Thread viv...@gmail.com
On 06/01/13 02:37, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Hi all, > > See attached the draft news item for MySQL/MariaDB dropping PBXT > support. from the draft: "All users who have data stored in PBXT-backed tables should convert the tables to another format before upgrading to MySQL/MariaDB 5.5, as the tables

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-06-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due c1pher lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs: app-benchmarks/ramspeed app-text/mht-rip net-analyzer/ostinato net-wireless/mdk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect init

2013-06-02 Thread Luca Barbato
On 06/01/2013 11:23 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: > That's not an argument for using a symlink switcher or the > equivalent across the board, by any means. Your opinion. > Firstly, we should be recommending people install Gentoo with enough > flexibility to configure and use their system how they ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-06-02, o godz. 03:29:33 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > On Sunday 02 June 2013 03:16:53 Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2013-06-02, o godz. 03:09:31 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > > On Sunday 02 June 2013 02:51:34 Michał Górny wrote: > > > > Dnia 2013-06-01, o godz. 23:03:20 Mike Frysinger na

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 03:29:33 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > except you aren't handling edge cases (like set vs unset) You've got me there, though this is quite an exception; I don't see why we have to introduce something that's barely used... `qgrep -eH '^\s*\bset\b' | wc -l` yields 150 `qgrep -

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 03:09:31 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > there's no way to undo the local thus it affects the rest of the > func. this makes sure the change is actually localized to where it > is needed. -mike In other languages you can freely introduce local scopes { ... }, this isn't possibl

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 02 June 2013 03:16:53 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-06-02, o godz. 03:09:31 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > On Sunday 02 June 2013 02:51:34 Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 2013-06-01, o godz. 23:03:20 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > > > simple set of helpers to save/restore a variable in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-06-02, o godz. 03:09:31 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > On Sunday 02 June 2013 02:51:34 Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2013-06-01, o godz. 23:03:20 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > > simple set of helpers to save/restore a variable in a limited section of > > > code > > > > > > you can see an

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 02 June 2013 02:51:34 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-06-01, o godz. 23:03:20 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): > > simple set of helpers to save/restore a variable in a limited section of > > code > > > > you can see an example of it in action at the end of the file where i > > need to tweak e