Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-07-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2013, 21:29:15 schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.: > > The original thread got somewhat long, so if I've missed any other > feedback on which there is a consensus, please let me know. > Hi Pawel, a general idea that might be helpful: * document your policies on a web page or wiki

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-07-27 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 5/20/13 9:58 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 5/20/13 5:10 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: >> This generally needs to go first so sorting by summary shows your >> packages in order and you have a chance to see this part of the summary >> in bugzilla (with version optionally), the rest of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Jeroen Roovers schrieb: >> Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while >> it is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed >> topics :-/ http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_0ea6864e30d3a4d5319694afc18162df.xml >> 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen Roovers пи

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Mike Pagano
On Saturday, July 27, 2013 09:58:08 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > Unless it were stable-masked it would create the exact same problem. > ^^ This -- Mike Pagano Gentoo Developer - Kernel Project E-Mail : mpag...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : EEE2 601D 0763 B60F 848C 9E14 3C33 C650 B576 E4E3 Publi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Berntsen schrieb: > On 27/07/13 10:56, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a "vanilla" USE flag to >> gentoo-sources? > Then we might as well just have a Linux package with a bunch of USE > fl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Alexis Ballier
The only sane default is likely a POSIX UTF-8 locale, certainly not C; some package will even fail with LC_ALL=C I think.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2013, 16:31:52 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: > On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:09:20 +0400 > > "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" wrote: > > What about adding "export LC_ALL=POSIX" (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) > > [...] > > We've been over this plenty of times in the past. Notably in March 2009, >

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Leho Kraav wrote: > php5-5 vs python2_7 > > > Why, how did that happen? > We had some discussion of this a while back. RUBY_TARGETS is yet another permutation with no version separator at all. As for why it happened: the eclasses involved were each written at dif

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Alex Xu
On 27/07/13 10:36 AM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while it > is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed topics :-/ > > 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen Roovers пишет: >> We've been over this plenty of times in the p

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:36:26 +0400 "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" wrote: > Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while > it is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed > topics :-/ Please reply below the quoted text. > 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen Roovers п

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while it is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed topics :-/ 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen Roovers пишет: > We've been over this plenty of times in the past. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:09:20 +0400 "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" wrote: > What about adding "export LC_ALL=POSIX" (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) > [...] We've been over this plenty of times in the past. Notably in March 2009, July 2010 (about python specific build issues), April 2011, December 2011 a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Alex Xu
On 27/07/13 08:09 AM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > Hi, list! > > Many times somebody post buildlogs — they're translated to user's native > language due to system's /etc/env.d/02locale. > > What about adding "export LC_ALL=POSIX" (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) to > /etc/portage/bashrc by defau

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Mike Pagano schrieb: >> Team members working alongside upstream (and downstream) developer Greg k-h >> have decided to no longer request stabilization of the vanilla sources >> kernel. > > How about dropping vanilla-sources an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Manuel Rüger
On 07/27/2013 03:28 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 27/07/13 10:56, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a "vanilla" USE flag >> to gentoo-sources? > Then we might as well just have a Linux package with a bunch of USE > flags -- gentoo, hardened,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/07/13 10:56, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a "vanilla" USE flag > to gentoo-sources? Then we might as well just have a Linux package with a bunch of USE flags -- gentoo, hardened, libre, tu

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
Hi, list! Many times somebody post buildlogs — they're translated to user's native language due to system's /etc/env.d/02locale. What about adding "export LC_ALL=POSIX" (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) to /etc/portage/bashrc by default (out-of-the-box)? That'll 1) fix buildlogs issue, 2) fix some pyth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread yac
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:13:37 -0400 "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/27/2013 12:08 AM, Matt Turner wrote: > > (I sent this to gentoo-releng@. Resending to gentoo-dev@ for a > > wider audi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH systemd.eclass] Introduce systemd_is_booted().

2013-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-24, o godz. 09:18:13 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Pacho requested that to be able to warn users in GNOME packages that do > not work anymore without systemd. Committed with a little more verbose description, and a MERGE_TYPE note. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Descri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > Some time ago I was also thinking about writing a test framework for > testing live images through kvm. > Of course I didn't manage to find time to try to arrange something in > the end, but the idea is still popping up in my mind every now

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH subversion.eclass] Export working copy information after the update.

2013-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-23, o godz. 20:46:15 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Currently, subversion.eclass exports working working copy information > such as ESVN_WC_REVISION two times: once before running 'svn up', > and the second time in pkg_preinst(). As a result, between those two > calls ESVN_WC_REVISION li

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread Fabio Erculiani
Some time ago I was also thinking about writing a test framework for testing live images through kvm. Of course I didn't manage to find time to try to arrange something in the end, but the idea is still popping up in my mind every now and then. -- Fabio Erculiani

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Mike Pagano schrieb: > Team members working alongside upstream (and downstream) developer Greg k-h > have decided to no longer request stabilization of the vanilla sources > kernel. How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a "vanilla" USE flag to gentoo-sources? Best regards, Chí-Thanh

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-27, o godz. 10:37:04 Leho Kraav napisał(a): > php5-5 vs python2_7 > > > Why, how did that happen? Because some people like to type 'php_targets_php5-5'. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Sergey Popov
24.07.2013 22:16, Peter Stuge пишет: > It seems that for this package Gentoo QA can not realistically add > any value to this package, hence my suggestion not to pretend that > they can, and just remove the distinction between ~arch and arch for > v-s, and make the latest version available to users

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le vendredi 26 juillet 2013 à 21:19 -0700, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." a écrit : > > The real question is, how realistic can we make a process of testing and > > moving to stable? > > We have arch teams, we have users... when several users say it's OK I > think it is OK. As compared to a script pushing it

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Leho Kraav wrote: > php5-5 vs python2_7 > Why, how did that happen? Using the hyphen is cleaner, because the underscore is used as the separator for USE_EXPAND. (OTOH, as long a nobody will introduce a PYTHON_TARGETS_PYTHON2 variable, python2_7 will also work fine.) U

[gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Leho Kraav
php5-5 vs python2_7 Why, how did that happen?