Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Parker Schmitt
Perhaps a hardened desktop profile might be nice. Possibly even an selinux profile with the popular WMs. From what I remember users of the server profile are given a warning to switch to hardened though it would be nice to add hardened options to other specialized profiles. On Sat, Sep 7, 2013

[gentoo-dev] Re: git-r3: initial draft for review [v2]

2013-09-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Note that... grep foo bar.txt ...returns colour-highlighted text, while... grep foo bar.txt output.txt ...returns plain text. So it can be done properly for everybody. No, it cannot be done properly for everybody: grep foo bar.txt | tee

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: net-irc/ezbounce, app-misc/gpsdrive, sys-fs/cdfs, =dev-cpp/libxmlpp-1.0*, app-arch/xarchiver

2013-09-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (07 Sep 2013) # Fails to build with gcc-4.7, no release since 2009, # nothing in the tree needs it. Removal in a month. net-irc/ezbounce # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (07 Sep 2013) # Upstream looks dead, lots of unattended bugs needing # patches (#369007, #444135,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:13:28 +0200 Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, during an irc debate, me and other people just noticed that the default profile could use more flags to enhance the security. An hint is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain/CompilerFlags Please

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: * -fstack-protector{-all} No thank you. -fstack-protector has very limited coverage I'd say it covers most cases where bugs can be made, practically without a severe impact on execution time or code size. In contrast, -fstack-protector-all should be left

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Security does not come from the compiler. There is no compiler flag that magically makes insecure code secure. But there are flags which can catch some frequent code bugs which perhaps some less careful upstream overlooked or is not aware

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: * -fstack-protector{-all} No thank you. -fstack-protector has very limited coverage I'd say it covers most cases where bugs can be made, practically without a severe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 07-09-2013 a las 14:37 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: * -fstack-protector{-all} No thank you. -fstack-protector has very limited coverage I'd say it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/07/2013 01:25 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 12:13:28 +0200 Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello, during an irc debate, me and other people just noticed that the default profile could use more flags to enhance the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Martin Vaeth
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Is there any kind of information about performance penalty of -fstack-protector? I have googled some time and there are various estimations (from ~2 to ~8%), but I have no idea what have they checked exactly. This depends extremely on the code: Most

[gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 18:10:42 + (UTC) Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: * -fstack-protector{-all} No thank you. -fstack-protector has very limited coverage I'd say it covers most cases where bugs can be made, practically

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/07/2013 05:11 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 18:10:42 + (UTC) Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: * -fstack-protector{-all} No thank you. -fstack-protector has very