Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Johann Schmitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I do not believe we have discovered any useful pattern, other than that is seems to happen more frequently with people who do not run full world updates. I don't think that running a world update should be valid solution to solve blocking issues.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: I was considering writing a news item for it but we discussed it on IRC and decided that users are really expected to be able to handle themselves, especially wrt to: 1. using 'emerge -Du @world' to upgrade their systems, 2. reading the blocker

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:19:21 -0400 Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/02/2013 06:09 PM, yac wrote: I don't know how this releng stuff works. I bet there is lot of devs who don't. This is why you should announce risking commits. Because you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Ben de Groot
On 3 November 2013 17:02, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? It's always been emerge -avuND world I personally got used to -uaNDv and I don't even know what exactly is the difference and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:19:21 -0400 Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/02/2013 06:09 PM, yac wrote: I don't know how this releng stuff works. I bet there is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: I was considering writing a news item for it but we discussed it on IRC and decided that users are really expected to be able to handle themselves, especially wrt to:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread heroxbd
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: One set of questions that were never answered and probably do deserve some kind of notification: 1. What exactly is python-exec anyway? 2. Why are there two, in dev-python/ and dev-lang/ ? 3. One has a version of -1, which is *highly*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-11-03, o godz. 10:53:13 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com napisał(a): One set of questions that were never answered and probably do deserve some kind of notification: I can help you with these. However, I don't know on how much of it a random user cares. 1. What exactly is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/11/2013 12:53, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-11-03, o godz. 10:53:13 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com napisał(a): One set of questions that were never answered and probably do deserve some kind of notification: I can help you with these. However, I don't know on how much of it

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: kde-misc/kio-upnp-ms

2013-11-03 Thread Johannes Huber
# Johannes Huber j...@gentoo.org (03 Nov 2013) # Masked for removal in 30 days. Doesn't work without # debug. UPnP support was disabled by upstream in kdelibs. # See bug #442912 kde-misc/kio-upnp-ms -- Johannes Huber (johu) Gentoo Linux Developer / KDE Team GPG Key ID F3CFD2BD signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: kde-misc/qtrans

2013-11-03 Thread Johannes Huber
# Johannes Huber j...@gentoo.org (03 Nov 2013) # Masked for removal in 30 days. Doesn't build. Dead upstream. # Attempt to patch leads to runtime errors. # See bug #484100 kde-misc/qtrans -- Johannes Huber (johu) Gentoo Linux Developer / KDE Team GPG Key ID F3CFD2BD signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Duncan
yac posted on Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:11:00 +0100 as excerpted: btw, is there a difference betwen world and @world or is just new syntax? Too short answer: New syntax. Middling answer: @world is now preferred, (bare) world support being retained for backward compatibility, both with people's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 11/03/2013 04:02 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote: On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:19:21 -0400 Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/02/2013 06:09 PM, yac wrote: I don't know how this releng stuff works. I bet there is lot of devs who don't. This is why you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec

2013-11-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: Getting back to my original post: I want to make the python team aware of the needs of releng and exercise care in the future when making a commit where alarm bells go off. An email to releng@ or gentoo-dev@ asking

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-11-03 23h59 UTC

2013-11-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-11-03 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-news/raggle 2013-10-29 03:48:16 mrueg app-office/tpp 2013-10-29 03:49:10 mrueg

Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? It's always been emerge -avuND world [snip] Is this documented annywhere? I have a hard time finding it. I can see it mentioned eg. in man

Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-03 Thread yac
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? It's always been emerge -avuND world [snip] Is this documented annywhere? I have a hard time finding it. I can see it mentioned eg. in man

Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-03 Thread yac
Please do not reply to this thread. I've resent the mail without the thread context header. On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 01:59:19 +0100 yac y...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Afaik there is no official way to update

[gentoo-portage-dev] [IDEA] Enumerate solutions for blockers, to avoid tedious manual work. (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-e

2013-11-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: Sadly, it's somewhat common for (newish) users to not know what to do with that. Blocker output can be quite daunting in the beginning, especially if it's in the middle of