RE: [gentoo-dev] logging in openntpd 20080406-r3+

2013-11-22 Thread Paul B. Henson
> From: Dirkjan Ochtman [mailto:d...@gentoo.org] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:30 PM > > - Without -s, it can take a *very* long time to get close to an > acceptable time error, whereas my initial expectation was that > "starting my ntpd should fix the time error fairly quickly". But for > m

Re: [gentoo-dev] logging in openntpd 20080406-r3+

2013-11-22 Thread Peter Stuge
Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > for my use case, it is not all that important that the time error is > minimized before resuming the boot process, but I really wanted to > minimize boot delays. Most servers really do need accurate time. But your servers, your call. NTP always takes a long time to adjust

Re: [gentoo-dev] logging in openntpd 20080406-r3+

2013-11-22 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul B. Henson wrote: > In openntpd ebuilds starting with version 20080406-r3, logging was changed > from using the default standard syslog to running the daemon in debug mode, > logging to stderr, and having start_stop_daemon background the process > itself and redirect the output to a log file.

Re: [gentoo-dev] logging in openntpd 20080406-r3+

2013-11-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > I was unable to come to an agreement with the current maintainer of the > ebuild on this design, and would like some general feedback from the larger > community of developers on this topic. Thank you for your explanation of the issues here

[gentoo-dev] logging in openntpd 20080406-r3+

2013-11-22 Thread Paul B. Henson
In openntpd ebuilds starting with version 20080406-r3, logging was changed from using the default standard syslog to running the daemon in debug mode, logging to stderr, and having start_stop_daemon background the process itself and redirect the output to a log file. I think this is broken. Firs

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New project: Licenses

2013-11-22 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/21/2013 04:21 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, hasufell wrote: > >>> For the time being, it will be listed as a top-level project. >>> (There were some ideas that Licenses could be a subproject of >>> another TLP, but so

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New project: Licenses

2013-11-22 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Roy Bamford wrote: >> Indeed, that's one of the two TLPs that were suggested. The past QA >> disliked having Licenses as their subproject, though. It depends on >> how the role of QA is defined: If it is seen as primarily technical, >> then Licenses (which is largely non

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] libtool.eclass: Have elibtoolize explicitly apply configure patches

2013-11-22 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On 11/15/2013 11:02 AM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: >> as you might or might not be aware of, elibtoolize() originally was for >> applying >> patches to ltmain.sh, but now also applies patches to configure scripts. >> Attached patch drops that wild guesses, explicitly applying >> configure-pat