Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-10 Thread William Hubbs
My issue with what we are currently doing is not whether we have a default network provider in the stages or not, but it is just that the netifrc use flag on OpenRC is bogus. OpenRC doesn't need netifrc for any reason. I think if we are going to have a default network manager in the stages we shou

RE: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Paul B. Henson
> From: Pacho Ramos [mailto:pa...@gentoo.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:55 PM > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last > time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie forked it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-10 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:06:51 -0500 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > SLOT allows multiple versions of a package to be installed > concurrently. In the case of libraries or dependencies, this supports > the specific case where certain ebuilds only support a p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Jeff Horelick
I'm a nobody, but +1 from me. On 10 December 2013 16:33, Lars Wendler wrote: > Am Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:55:05 +0100 > schrieb Pacho Ramos : > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > > vixie-cron as default an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:55:05 +0100 schrieb Pacho Ramos : > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last > time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-10 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/12/13 03:21 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 21:01:00 +0100 Ulrich Mueller > wrote: > >>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> Sure it does - it defaults to :* when :* was never specified. >>> I don't see how default

[gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie forked it fixing some bugs :/ What do you think?

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-10 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 06:23 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:33 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > You're thinking with your x86/amd64 hat on here. > > Actually, I probably just underquoted. I am well-aware that ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:33 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > You're thinking with your x86/amd64 hat on here. Actually, I probably just underquoted. I am well-aware that there are issues with ARM, hence my previous suggestion that it might

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-10 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 20:33 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina > wrote: > > I really don't like the idea of having no networking in the stage3 by > > default, however, I'm becoming more open minded on what qualifies as > > networking. What I'm wr

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-10 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Martin Vaeth wrote: > No need to write a script for such things > (export EIX_LIMIT_COMPACT=0 if you do not pipe the output): > eix -c2 $ eix -c2 | tail -n1 Found 473 matches. > Packages with a slot different from "0" are found with eix -1, > i.e. the following lists p

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-10 Thread Martin Vaeth
Tom Wijsman wrote: > > It is surprising that there are only ~400 packages that have multiple > slots available in the Portage tree; trying to reproduce this No need to write a script for such things (export EIX_LIMIT_COMPACT=0 if you do not pipe the output): eix -c2 Packages with a slot differen