Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:36 AM, hasufell wrote: > Longterm, this makes it year after year more difficult to develop > software for "Linux". Instead (like valve), people start to develop for > certain distros only (like Ubuntu), because it's just too much work to > bother with all this hackery-her

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread hasufell
Rich Freeman: > On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, hasufell wrote: >> >> Our philosophy states that our tools "should be a joy to use". If we add >> random hackery on stuff that affects portability across distros, then >> this doesn't hold true anymore. >> > > Which one of our tools is at risk of n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, hasufell wrote: > > Our philosophy states that our tools "should be a joy to use". If we add > random hackery on stuff that affects portability across distros, then > this doesn't hold true anymore. > Which one of our tools is at risk of not being a joy to use? A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread hasufell
Markos Chandras: >> Gentoo, almost all pkgconfig files come from upstream with minimal >> modification. So a .pc file that is specific to Gentoo is a rare >> exception, and it could cause confusion for users who installed Gentoo >> on their development machine and who wish to develop new portable >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread hasufell
Markos Chandras: > On 05/09/2014 09:32 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Fri, 9 May 2014 16:15:58 -0400 >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> I think fixing upstream is a no-brainer. >> >> It indeed is, this is the goal; you can force them in multiple ways, >> some of which can be found on the Lua bug and prev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread hasufell
Rich Freeman: > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:57:29 +0100 >> Markos Chandras wrote: >> >>> I was wondering, is there a good reason we keep our own pkgconfig >>> files instead of communicating that to upstream and resolve that >>> properly? >> >> Yes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/05/14 12:39, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 05/10/2014 07:31 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: >> On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 13:50 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: >>> On 10 May 2014 04:34, Markos Chandras wrote: On 05/09/2014 09:32 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 2014 16:15:58 -0400 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread Markos Chandras
On 05/10/2014 07:31 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 13:50 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 10 May 2014 04:34, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 05/09/2014 09:32 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2014 16:15:58 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > I think fixing ups