[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-print/foomatic-filters-ppds

2014-10-25 Thread Manuel Rüger
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# Deprecated by upstream, Debian removed it in 2010.
# Contents of this package moved to foomatic-db{,-engine,-ppds}
# and cups-filters.
# Masking for removal in 30 days.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] status of bugs blocking gcc-4.8.3

2014-10-25 Thread Luca Barbato
On 25/10/14 13:09, Matthias Maier wrote:
> 
>> Not sure if the llvm C++ runtime might help here or it is any better
>> than the one provided by gnu, but might be a good time to gather
>> volunteers to provide a mean to use clang as main compiler out of box.
> 
> libc++ makes stricter ABI guarantees [1]. But from personal experience I
> would not consider it a replacement for libstdc++ in the near future.

Probably we could join forces with FreeBSD to help pushing fixes to
applications upstream.

> I have set up some lxc containers with clang/libc++ with promising
> results (and I plan to keep up testing with it once in a while).

Could you please blog or add some notes to the wiki about it?

lu



Re: [gentoo-dev] status of bugs blocking gcc-4.8.3

2014-10-25 Thread Matthias Maier

> Not sure if the llvm C++ runtime might help here or it is any better
> than the one provided by gnu, but might be a good time to gather
> volunteers to provide a mean to use clang as main compiler out of box.

libc++ makes stricter ABI guarantees [1]. But from personal experience I
would not consider it a replacement for libstdc++ in the near future.

I have set up some lxc containers with clang/libc++ with promising
results (and I plan to keep up testing with it once in a while).

Best,
Matthias

[1] 
http://clang-developers.42468.n3.nabble.com/libc-ABI-stability-td2976682.html



Re: [gentoo-dev] status of bugs blocking gcc-4.8.3

2014-10-25 Thread Luca Barbato
On 24/10/14 19:12, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> bug 513386 - net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.3 - ./.libs/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so:
> undefined reference to `_ZNSt6chrono12steady_clock3nowEv@GLIBCXX_3.4.17'
> -> This is a problem.  It relates to abi mismatching with libstdc++.

The ABI mismatch is due the library not being versioned properly as "usual"?

> The bug details how you can hit it in gentoo. Martin von Gagern pushed
> the issue upstream and pretty much got the answer "we're on our own"  So
> we'll have to deal with this as we go forward.
> Seehttps://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61758

Not sure if the llvm C++ runtime might help here or it is any better
than the one provided by gnu, but might be a good time to gather
volunteers to provide a mean to use clang as main compiler out of box.

Being on your own is not an answer I like to hear. Nor the whole
approach to the discussion.

lu



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item regarding c++98 vs c++11

2014-10-25 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 10/24/14 7:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> So I don't have to keep email the entire item to the list, how about 
> just adding it as follows:
> 
> "Nor is c++11 code compiled with gcc-4.7 ABI-compatible with c++11 
> compiled with 4.8, and vice versa.  An example can be see in ref.
> [2]"
> 
> Ref. [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513386

I think this could still be clearer about the user/sysadmin perspective
more than a developer perspective, i.e. present this more like "both
gcc-4.7 and 4.8 installed with 4.7 being active" than "not
ABI-compatible with C++11 compiled with 4.8".

Here's my suggested draft:

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GCC 4.7 introduced the new experimental 2011 ISO C++ standard [1].

Users that wish to try enabling C++11 globally (e.g. using CXXFLAGS)
should exercise caution because it is not ABI-compatible with C++98.
Packages which are self-contained or do not link against any libraries
written in C++ are not affected. Note that some packages like
www-client/chromium and net-libs/webkit-gtk among others are already
using C++11 features.

Even having different versions of gcc installed simultaneously might
lead to problems, especially if the active version of gcc is older.
Please see [2] for example known bug with webkit-gtk. It is recommended
to set the latest installed version of gcc as active; some packages may
work when an older version is selected, but GCC upstream provides no
guarantees of C++11 ABI stability for code compiled with gcc-4.x and 4.y
for any x != y [3].

Ref.
[1] http://www.stroustrup.com/C++11FAQ.html
[2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513386
[3] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61758
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Paweł



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[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-util/cmockery

2014-10-25 Thread Tim Harder
# Tim Harder  (25 Oct 2014)   

 
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[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-python/pry

2014-10-25 Thread Tim Harder
# Tim Harder  (25 Oct 2014)   

 
# Upstream migrated to nose for testing instead of their own framework. 

 
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