[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-03 Thread Duncan
Mike Pagano posted on Fri, 02 Jan 2015 15:46:21 -0500 as excerpted: We have had a lot of stable kernels with a not-so-stable btrfs. That's a whole conversation in itself. There are pieces of the kernel that are in a, shall we say, less stable state than others. On btrfs FWIW... As a

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Multilib ABI identifiers for NEEDED.ELF.2 (GLEP 64) and binary package soname dependencies

2015-01-03 Thread Zac Medico
Hi, While research requirements for binary package soname dependencies [1], I found that the NEEDED.ELF.2 data that portage generates contains insufficient information to uniquely distinguish all of the multilib ABIs that may be present on a given system [2]. In order to correctly handle multilib

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: As a gentoo/~arch btrfs user myself and reasonably active on the btrfs list, I'd *never* recommend btrfs in anything like its current state to a gentoo-stable user. Just tonite, before I switched to this list I was on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-03 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 02-01-2015 a las 12:25 -0500, Mike Pagano escribió: Hello, Everyone, Are there solid arguments for stabilizing any version of gentoo-sources? I think the valid arguments for not stabilizing gentoo-sources can be garnered from the thread about not stabilizing vanilla-sources[1].

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-03 Thread Mike Pagano
On Saturday, January 03, 2015 11:18:26 AM Pacho Ramos wrote: El vie, 02-01-2015 a las 12:25 -0500, Mike Pagano escribió: Hello, Everyone, [2] http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources In my case I still run only stable gentoo-sources in many machines to prevent

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Multilib ABI identifiers for NEEDED.ELF.2 (GLEP 64) and binary package soname dependencies

2015-01-03 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 03-01-2015 01:24:48 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: In order to solve this problem, I propose that we extend NEEDED.ELF.2 to include a new field containing a multilib ABI identifier. The extension will be backward-compatible, and NEEDED.ELF.2 will only need to be regenerated on systems with

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Multilib ABI identifiers for NEEDED.ELF.2 (GLEP 64) and binary package soname dependencies

2015-01-03 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/03/2015 01:50 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 03-01-2015 01:24:48 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: In order to solve this problem, I propose that we extend NEEDED.ELF.2 to include a new field containing a multilib ABI identifier. The extension will be backward-compatible, and NEEDED.ELF.2 will only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-03 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 03-01-2015 a las 10:14 -0500, Mike Pagano escribió: [...] Hi, Pacho, I think if you read further in the thread and find Ian's suggestion, it should cover your needs nicely. Mike Yeah, that suggestion looks nice to me, thanks :)

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-libs/libgeier

2015-01-03 Thread Hanno Böck
# Hanno Boeck ha...@gentoo.org (03 Jan 2015) # Was a dependency of taxbird which has been replaced by # geierlein. As this requires yearly changes it's unlikely # it has any use for anyone. Masked for removal. dev-libs/libgeier -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG:

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-libs/libgeier

2015-01-03 Thread Hanno Böck
# Hanno Boeck ha...@gentoo.org (03 Jan 2015) # Was a dependency of taxbird which has been replaced by # geierlein. As this requires yearly changes it's unlikely # it has any use for anyone. Masked for removal. dev-libs/libgeier -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG:

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emulation/wine-doors

2015-01-03 Thread Hanno Böck
# Hanno Boeck ha...@gentoo.org (03 Jan 2015) # dead upstream, masked for removal app-emulation/wine-doors If anyone wants to fix this: It requires downloads from upstream's webpage, so it's likely impossible to take over without replacing upstream entirely. Open bugs:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-sources - should we stable?

2015-01-03 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 03 Jan 2015 07:53:56 -0500 as excerpted: In any case, whether you run btrfs or not the general principle is for stable users to not run the very latest kernel branch the day it is released. Longterm does that reasonably well, and it gets btrfs backports just like