On 03/02/2015 20:02, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-03, o godz. 18:50:43
Jason A. Donenfeld zx...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
If you want ffmpeg-ish features, at all, USE=ffmpeg.
If you'd like to use the libav implementation, USE=libav. If you'd prefer
to use the original ffmpeg
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 10:12:12
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
So can someone please remind me what are the technical reasons why we
prefer libav over ffmpeg?
We have a developer inside
I think it's
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 17:24:03
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 4 February 2015 at 17:21, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 10:12:12
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo
With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo default
for ffmpeg vs libav is more pronounced than it was before (with libav
being listed first in || ( ) dependencies).
In the replies to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=7694982
several users have expressed their preference
On 4 February 2015 at 17:21, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 10:12:12
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo default
for ffmpeg vs libav is more pronounced than it was before (with libav
being
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
From what I heard, that upstream likes to change its opinion
frequently, pretty much based on which upstream he is pissed at
the moment. But it's just rumors.
This is most certainly untrue. Please stop disseminating FUD
On 02/03/2015 08:55 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
On 02/02/15 19:06, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
Il 02/02/2015 23:30, Pacho Ramos ha scritto:
El sáb, 31-01-2015 a las 16:48 -0500, Anthony G. Basile escribió:
Hi everyone,
We need to revert the following change to toolchain.eclass:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 10:12:12
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo default
for ffmpeg vs libav is more pronounced than it was before (with libav
being listed first in || ( ) dependencies).
In the replies to
El mié, 04-02-2015 a las 17:24 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
[...]
From an upstream that I care about:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FFmpeg-versus-Libav
Based on that I would say we should switch back the default to ffmpeg.
Thanks a lot for the link
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
From an upstream that I care about:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FFmpeg-versus-Libav
Based on that I would say we should switch back the default to ffmpeg.
I can vouch for the content of that link and the
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:12:12 +0100
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote:
With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo default
for ffmpeg vs libav is more pronounced than it was before (with libav
being listed first in || ( ) dependencies).
In the replies to
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Also, portage-2.2.16 will have support for special USE_EXPAND syntax in
package.use
I knew from reading portage-dev ml
Actually, I am hoping that the introduction of the feature
be taken as an opportunity to document USE_EXPAND better as a whole
on some
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 09:49:02
Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
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On 04/02/15 09:27 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 14:41:06 Alexis Ballier
aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:30:56
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:36:06 -0600
Steven Lembark lemb...@wrkhors.com wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 18:43:49 +0100
Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote:
I got a bug report for arm64 against the test suite of uriparser.
If I could get a temporary arm64 shell somewhere, that could help me
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 18:01:57
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 4 February 2015 at 17:55, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 17:24:03
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
From an upstream that I care about:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 13:57:55 +0100
Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 04/02/15 11:40, Michał Górny wrote:
It's easiest to look at the trackers:
- ffmpeg-2 [1] -- 26/26 fixed,
- ffmpeg-2.4 [2] -- 3/3 fixed (but unsure if there won't be more),
- libav-9 [3] -- 55/55 fixed,
-
I'd like to insert, early on in this thread, that we must leave personal
biases and associations *out* of this discussion, and instead focus on
technical merits and analyses only. Thus, I would *strongly encourage* that
authors of libav and ffmpeg will *refrain from joining this discussion* in
On 02/04/15 03:06, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
On 02/03/2015 08:55 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
On 02/02/15 19:06, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
Il 02/02/2015 23:30, Pacho Ramos ha scritto:
El sáb, 31-01-2015 a las 16:48 -0500, Anthony G. Basile escribió:
Hi everyone,
We need to revert the
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Hi,
Whilst the default *is* still in place (and particularly after the
recent news article detailing that users should be using libav), could
we please keep commits like the following until *after* we've made an
agreed upon decision please?
On 04/02/15 11:40, Michał Górny wrote:
It's easiest to look at the trackers:
- ffmpeg-2 [1] -- 26/26 fixed,
- ffmpeg-2.4 [2] -- 3/3 fixed (but unsure if there won't be more),
- libav-9 [3] -- 55/55 fixed,
- libav-10 [4] -- 11/25 fixed.
No offense here but in my experience, ffmpeg support in
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015, Matthias Maier wrote:
So can someone please remind me what are the technical reasons why
we
prefer libav over ffmpeg?
*ugh* Please no.
What about leaving the default (if there ever was such a default) as
it
is and avoid the
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:30:56 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
It wasn't only weak but quite inconsistent too. Some packages had
their own || deps, with different order.
this was to reflect upstreams preferences
On 04/02/15 14:25, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
By now it should be clear to most people that everything goes smoother,
works better for the end user, and causes less breakage when *ffmpeg is the
default, not libav*.
Works better is a matter of perception, if I (and the few that help me
not
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:09 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 11:04:57
Jason A. Donenfeld zx...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
I'd like to insert, early on in this thread, that we must leave personal
biases and associations *out* of this discussion, and instead focus
Ulrich Mueller schrieb:
In the replies to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=7694982
several users have expressed their preference for ffmpeg.
To help finding out what users actually think, I added a poll to the
forum to ask them about their preference.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
This to me is still the ideal solution (not the || deps due to the
issues they have, but the soft default) -- why is it that we need to
actually choose or force a default implementation in the profiles anyhow??
I think
On Wednesday 04 February 2015 09:49:02 Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
In other words, we didn't actually have a default, we just had a means
that portage would choose one of them if the end-user haddn't chosen
already.
This to me is still the ideal solution (not the || deps due to the
issues they
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On 04/02/15 09:27 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 14:41:06 Alexis Ballier
aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:30:56 +0100 Michał Górny
mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
It wasn't only weak but quite inconsistent
On 4 February 2015 at 17:55, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 17:24:03
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
From an upstream that I care about:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FFmpeg-versus-Libav
Based on that I would say we should switch back the
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 11:04:57
Jason A. Donenfeld zx...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
I'd like to insert, early on in this thread, that we must leave personal
biases and associations *out* of this discussion, and instead focus on
technical merits and analyses only. Thus, I would *strongly
El mié, 04-02-2015 a las 11:40 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
[...]
It's easiest to look at the trackers:
- ffmpeg-2 [1] -- 26/26 fixed,
- ffmpeg-2.4 [2] -- 3/3 fixed (but unsure if there won't be more),
- libav-9 [3] -- 55/55 fixed,
- libav-10 [4] -- 11/25 fixed.
No offense here but in
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 14:41:06
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:30:56 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
It wasn't only weak but quite inconsistent too. Some packages had
their own || deps, with different order.
this was to reflect
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 10:26:06
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:12:12 +0100
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote:
With the recent introduction of the libav USE flag, the Gentoo default
for ffmpeg vs libav is more pronounced than it was before (with
So can someone please remind me what are the technical reasons why we
prefer libav over ffmpeg?
*ugh* Please no.
What about leaving the default (if there ever was such a default) as it
is and avoid the otherwise imminent trainwreck?
Best,
Matthias
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015, Matthias Maier wrote:
So can someone please remind me what are the technical reasons why we
prefer libav over ffmpeg?
*ugh* Please no.
What about leaving the default (if there ever was such a default) as it
is and avoid the otherwise imminent trainwreck?
As I said,
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 00:44:20 +0100
Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote:
So I don't need shell access any more, at least not in this context.
If you are interested in fixing things feel free to ping me and we
can get you ssh access (assuming that an Opteron 2376 is sufficient)
prior to
This to me is still the ideal solution (not the || deps due to the
issues they have, but the soft default) -- why is it that we need to
actually choose or force a default implementation in the profiles anyhow??
Because blockers resulted whenever two different packages made portage pick
two
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 18:43:49 +0100
Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote:
I got a bug report for arm64 against the test suite of uriparser. If I
could get a temporary arm64 shell somewhere, that could help me
understand the issue.
I can give you an accout here; system is Opteron 2000
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