Re: [gentoo-dev] Importance of SLOTs on Java dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-04-15, o godz. 22:27:03 James Le Cuirot napisał(a): > On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:29:11 +0200 > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > > > I felt the need to write the above because I have seen many > > > instances where devs not familiar with Java packaging have made > > > this mistake. Now I ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Importance of SLOTs on Java dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 05:29 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 15/04/15 05:27 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:29:11 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" >> wrote: >>> Sounds good to me (as long as repoman agrees :). > >> Turns out it doesn't agree.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Importance of SLOTs on Java dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 05:27 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:29:11 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" > wrote: > >>> I felt the need to write the above because I have seen many >>> instances where devs not familiar with Java packaging have >>> ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Importance of SLOTs on Java dependencies

2015-04-15 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:29:11 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > I felt the need to write the above because I have seen many > > instances where devs not familiar with Java packaging have made > > this mistake. Now I need to ask what to do in the case of ebuilds > > that have already been marke

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 15-04-2015 a las 05:33 +0200, Yanestra escribió: > Hi, > > after a talk with some of the persons present here, it appears, Gentoo > Linux is actually something like a Freemason lodge. > > Many secrets, inaugurations, and obviously magic. > > People, I can only conclude you are not sane.

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo & Social Contract meanings of "dependant" notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> Why should we not be able to benefit from really good closed-source >> CI tools that are offered for free to the open-source community? > > Because it may not be in line with Gentoo politics. > > >> Jenkins, Buildbot

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 09:40 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 15/04/15 05:49 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> This is problem with the CVS two-commit procedure. The only >>> solution is to stop using CVS keyword

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 05:49 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > >> This is problem with the CVS two-commit procedure. The only >> solution is to stop using CVS keywords which people don't want to >> do because THEY ARE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-15 Thread Peter Stuge
Yanestra wrote: > after a talk with some of the persons present here, it appears, Gentoo > Linux is actually something like a Freemason lodge. I disagree with this. I do agree that the threshold to become a developer with write access to the gentoo repo is very high, which is why I'm not a develo

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo & Social Contract meanings of "dependant" notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Peter Stuge
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Why should we not be able to benefit from really good closed-source > CI tools that are offered for free to the open-source community? Because it may not be in line with Gentoo politics. > Jenkins, Buildbot and others are existing libre options in this > ecosystem, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo & Social Contract meanings of "dependant" notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Argument about saving Gentoo Foundation financial resources by > using hardware for CI for free is heard and taken. This is a > serious one and I can't argue here. But frankly it looks like to me > that we are just selling our freedom, slo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Jason Zaman wrote: > I dont think it can be fixed without getting rid of the $Header$ line. > I'd be all for it, those lines seem like more trouble than its worth to me. Those problems cause headaches all over the place. I'll be very happy to see them go when we

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Jason Zaman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:27:08PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:06:22 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2015-04-15, o godz. 11:59:12 > > Andrew Savchenko napisał(a): > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > why manifest signatures are still optional for repoman? > > > > > > Repoman

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo & Social Contract meanings of "dependant" notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello, On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 01:13:02 + Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Bircoph: > mgorny has worked with infra to get something that is suitable. > _ANY_ CI is an improvement over no CI. Yes and no, this depends on implications of such improvement. > > If travis will become essential for Gentoo de

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > This is problem with the CVS two-commit procedure. The only solution > is to stop using CVS keywords which people don't want to do because > THEY ARE SO VERY USEFUL. > Or make repoman do first commit without Manifest, so instead of > unsigned Manif

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:06:22 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-04-15, o godz. 11:59:12 > Andrew Savchenko napisał(a): > > > Hi, > > > > why manifest signatures are still optional for repoman? > > > > Repoman signatures are currently optional and this creates nasty > > consequences: if signi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-04-15, o godz. 11:59:12 Andrew Savchenko napisał(a): > Hi, > > why manifest signatures are still optional for repoman? > > Repoman signatures are currently optional and this creates nasty > consequences: if signing errors occurs, repoman still proceeds :/ > > I just had a phone call

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Make manifest signatures mandatory for repoman commit

2015-04-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, why manifest signatures are still optional for repoman? Repoman signatures are currently optional and this creates nasty consequences: if signing errors occurs, repoman still proceeds :/ I just had a phone call during repoman commit and was not able to type my password. Due to gpg-agent time