Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org wrote: What I meant is when I get a stabilization bug for cat-egory/foo-1.2.3 which depends on =other-cat/bar-1.0.5. The latter is amd64 but not alpha or ~alpha. And it, in turn, has yet more deps in the same vein. Now I

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 09 Jul 2015, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 21:11 +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote: The truly arch-dependent bugs are what wastes my time: For example: - dependencies not being keyworded for arch or ~arch but only amd64/~amd64 - dependencies not even

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:31 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: The quality problem is that we have too many developers. If you make community contributions easier, sane and more reliable (due to code review) then

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread wireless
On 07/09/2015 10:45 AM, Alec Warner wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org mailto:ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:31 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org mailto:hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: The quality problem is that we have too many

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Lots of stuff except for the part below. So basically Gentoo Sunrise? :) In any case, to some extent the review workflow already exists on the proxy

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 00:11:34 -0500 Steev Klimaszewski st...@gentoo.org wrote: The only fear I have about CI, is that we turn into every other distro out there where it builds, ship it! This would be an improvement over the current situation. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread hasufell
On 07/09/2015 01:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:31 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: The quality problem is that we have too many developers. If you make community contributions easier, sane and more reliable (due to code review) then you solve several problems at

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:56 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm not sure if you followed my argumentation. I basically said that it is unrealistic to enforce a review-only workflow and that it should/can start within gentoo-internal projects. You are just repeating what I already

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:20:14 +0200 hasufell wrote: On 07/05/2015 08:05 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 20:20:23 +0200 Peter Stuge wrote: It's important that the review flow is well-understood and efficient. This is impossible in our case due to the lack of manpower. We

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Steev Klimaszewski st...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 21:11 +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote: Hi! On Wed, 08 Jul 2015, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 20:07:34 +0200 Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org wrote: In essence,

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:31 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: The quality problem is that we have too many developers. If you make community contributions easier, sane and more reliable (due to code review) then you solve several problems at once, because you need _less_ developers. Are

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: I suspect that trying to force it would basically end up putting the entire distro on hold until most of the current devs quit, I think you're right. I also think those developers should quit right here and now. I don't think they will. //Peter

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread hasufell
On 07/09/2015 09:19 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:20:14 +0200 hasufell wrote: On 07/05/2015 08:05 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 20:20:23 +0200 Peter Stuge wrote: It's important that the review flow is well-understood and efficient. This is impossible in

Re: Code Review Systems Was: [gentoo-dev] Git Migration: launch plan schedule

2015-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: I suspect that trying to force it would basically end up putting the entire distro on hold until most of the current devs quit, I think you're right. I also think those developers should quit right here and

Re: [gentoo-dev] PATCH: git-r3.eclass submodule no-checkout fix

2015-07-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-06-26, o godz. 22:42:07 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Hello, Here's a quick patch to git-r3.eclass for review. It fixes handling of repositories where submodules were partially removed -- they're still listed in .gitmodules but the path was 'git rm'-ed. In this case,