Re: [gentoo-dev] can someone help me or give me access to planet.gentoo.org

2016-04-02 Thread Yury German


On 4/2/16 1:20 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 4/2/16 1:08 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Anthony G. Basile 
> 
> I'd still like to at least take care of "planet venus" at the server
> level since it broken and I have interest in making it run since I have
> a ton of blog posts that I want to make sure appear on planet.gentoo.org.

And with that... Anthony (Blueness) is part of the official planet team.

Welcome aboard!


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[gentoo-dev] Re: can someone help me or give me access to planet.gentoo.org

2016-04-02 Thread Duncan
Anthony G. Basile posted on Sat, 02 Apr 2016 05:31:44 -0400 as excerpted:

> I wrote a long blog post and I'd like to see it on planet gentoo.  I
> plan on blogging a lot more too and need to see this problem fixed.

In the mean time, what about a direct link to your blog?

While I follow planet gentoo, I subscribe directly to a few gentooer 
blogs as well, in part because I'm interested in some stuff that doesn't 
get tagged gentoo and thus that planet gentoo won't carry.

With a link I could take a look around and would likely subscribe 
directly to your blog as well.  After all, it's easy enough to 
unsubscribe if I need to, or once planet gentoo starts carrying at least 
some of the posts if it turns out those are all I'm interested in, after 
all. =:^)

And if there's me, there may well be others, as well...

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[gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 96 bugs

2016-04-02 Thread Alex Alexander
Our bug queue has 96 bugs!

If you have some spare time, please help assign/sort a few bugs.

To view the bug queue, click here: http://bit.ly/m8PQS5

Thanks!



[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-lang/go-bootstrap

2016-04-02 Thread William Hubbs
# William Hubbs  (02 Apr 2016)
# Stable dev-lang/go no longer needs this; end users should have never
# installed it on their own.
# Masked for removal on 20160409
dev-lang/go-bootstrap


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 12:35:58PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:36:56PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > >> On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >  ...
> > >>> "being supported" != "enabled by default".  so no, i still don't see any
> > >>> requirement in anything you've cited that this be turned on 
> > >>> by default. ...
> > >> 
> > >> you're right, but you know, before you claimed the contrary of what was 
> > >> voted and then decided to argue whether a 4 years old council decision 
> > >> applies or not here, my point was, and still is, that such council 
> > >> decisions make me think you're confusing what *you* want and 
> > >> what *we* (as 
> > >> a project) want for this case
> > >
> > > i see no significant number of people clamoring for this as the default.
> > > the bug that started this has everyone on board for changing the default.
> > 
> > yes; I also tend to think fedora's usr move is what makes most sense 
> > nowadays, but that'd go against council
> 
> No, it wouldn't. We made a decision in 2013 (I'll have to find it) that
> separate /usr should only be supported via initramfs; there is also a
> news item warning that if you are not using initramfs and you have
> separate /usr your system will be unbootable in the future.

Here are the latest council decision on the matter [1] and news item [2].
At this point, if anyone who has split /usr isn't using initramfs,
they are operating on borrowed time.

I would agree, since it has been so long, that we should do another news
item, but once the news item is done and we give a firm date, I think
we should just kill off gen_usr_ldscript.

The /usr merge is a separate issue, which I agree with as well, but that
was never brought to council, and it is controversial in the Gentoo camp
because some folks claim fhs doesn't allow it.

William

[1]
https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20130924-summary.txt
[2]
https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/gentoo-news.git/plain/2013-09-27-initramfs-required/2013-09-27-initramfs-required.en.txt


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default

2016-04-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:36:56PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2016 8:33:02 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> >> On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>  ...
> >>> "being supported" != "enabled by default".  so no, i still don't see any
> >>> requirement in anything you've cited that this be turned on 
> >>> by default. ...
> >> 
> >> you're right, but you know, before you claimed the contrary of what was 
> >> voted and then decided to argue whether a 4 years old council decision 
> >> applies or not here, my point was, and still is, that such council 
> >> decisions make me think you're confusing what *you* want and 
> >> what *we* (as 
> >> a project) want for this case
> >
> > i see no significant number of people clamoring for this as the default.
> > the bug that started this has everyone on board for changing the default.
> 
> yes; I also tend to think fedora's usr move is what makes most sense 
> nowadays, but that'd go against council

No, it wouldn't. We made a decision in 2013 (I'll have to find it) that
separate /usr should only be supported via initramfs; there is also a
news item warning that if you are not using initramfs and you have
separate /usr your system will be unbootable in the future.

> 
> > it's really no different either from the install process today: a stage3
> > cannot be unpacked & booted directly.  a user must configure it before it
> > can actually be used.  if that means enabling USE=sep-usr, then so be it.
> 
> except it adds yet another step
> 
> > there's no reason to force this legacy behavior on the majority of people
> > when a split-/usr is uncommon.
> 
> what's the reason not to force it? saving 10kb from ldscripts out of a 1Gb 
> typical desktop install ? doesnt seem like a reason for disabling it either
> 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] can someone help me or give me access to planet.gentoo.org

2016-04-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 4/2/16 1:08 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Anthony G. Basile 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> There is an error on planet.gentoo.org which is not permitting my blog
>> post from showing up.  The aggregation program is very old, venus, and
>> it has an encoding error which I know how to fix.  Can someone give me
>> access so I can take care of that?  In fact, I'd be willing to join
>> infra team and baby that system for everyone.
>>
> 
> AFAIK the people who run planet can be contacted at pla...@gentoo.org.

Thanks Alec, I finally figured out who's in charge of what.  So the
server is run by infra, but the planet git repo is run by the planet
folks and Jorge is the liason.

I'd still like to at least take care of "planet venus" at the server
level since it broken and I have interest in making it run since I have
a ton of blog posts that I want to make sure appear on planet.gentoo.org.


> 
> -A
> 
> 
>>
>> I wrote a long blog post and I'd like to see it on planet gentoo.  I
>> plan on blogging a lot more too and need to see this problem fixed.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
>> Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
>> E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org
>> GnuPG FP  : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB  DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA
>> GnuPG ID  : F52D4BBA
>>
>>
> 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] can someone help me or give me access to planet.gentoo.org

2016-04-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Anthony G. Basile 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> There is an error on planet.gentoo.org which is not permitting my blog
> post from showing up.  The aggregation program is very old, venus, and
> it has an encoding error which I know how to fix.  Can someone give me
> access so I can take care of that?  In fact, I'd be willing to join
> infra team and baby that system for everyone.
>

AFAIK the people who run planet can be contacted at pla...@gentoo.org.

-A


>
> I wrote a long blog post and I'd like to see it on planet gentoo.  I
> plan on blogging a lot more too and need to see this problem fixed.
>
>
> --
> Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
> Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
> E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org
> GnuPG FP  : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB  DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA
> GnuPG ID  : F52D4BBA
>
>


[gentoo-dev] can someone help me or give me access to planet.gentoo.org

2016-04-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone,

There is an error on planet.gentoo.org which is not permitting my blog
post from showing up.  The aggregation program is very old, venus, and
it has an encoding error which I know how to fix.  Can someone give me
access so I can take care of that?  In fact, I'd be willing to join
infra team and baby that system for everyone.

I wrote a long blog post and I'd like to see it on planet gentoo.  I
plan on blogging a lot more too and need to see this problem fixed.


-- 
Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP  : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB  DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA
GnuPG ID  : F52D4BBA