Re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree

2016-08-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/15/2016 03:21 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > Better than developers marking it fixed without it hitting stable as too > many are doing today. Totally guilty of that one, sorry! I think adding a status would be great. We could have CONFIRMED and even RESOLVED still, but the goalpost could

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc using modprobe directly to load kernel modules

2016-08-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/17/2016 09:54 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I'm starting this thread because of the bug I'm citing below [1]. > > The issue is that some systems do not use kernel modules, and do not > have kmod installed at all. Since we run modprobe unconditionally in a > few places in OpenRC, we al

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/11/2016 06:19 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 18:00, kirjutas Mike Gilbert: >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Kent Fredric >> wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:07:27 -0400 >>> Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >>> but realistically this should be installed

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/10/2016 10:53 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 00:10:53 +0100 > James Le Cuirot wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE 8 >> as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves, install >> it as libpcre.so.3. Wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developers, please work on underlinking issues!

2016-08-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/17/2016 01:37 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, fellow developers. > > TL;DR: switch to the darn gold linker, and start fixing your darn > packages! > > After many years, the underlinking tracker [1] is still full of bugs. > This is a huge QA problem, and most of the developers don't test fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc using modprobe directly to load kernel modules

2016-08-17 Thread james
On 08/17/2016 12:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, I'm starting this thread because of the bug I'm citing below [1]. The issue is that some systems do not use kernel modules, and do not have kmod installed at all. Since we run modprobe unconditionally in a few places in OpenRC, we always generat

Fwd: [gentoo-dev] Electron external dependencies

2016-08-17 Thread Alexander Revin
Oops, forgot to properly forward. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alexander Revin Date: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Electron external dependencies To: k...@gentoo.org Hi all, Thanks! Here's the bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591552 O

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developers, please work on underlinking issues!

2016-08-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Michał Górny wrote: > $ sudo binutils-config --linker ld.gold "sudo", really? Are we Ubuntu now? :) $ sudo binutils-config --linker ld.gold bash: sudo: command not found Ulrich pgpUpWKGw1EbA.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Developers, please work on underlinking issues!

2016-08-17 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, fellow developers. TL;DR: switch to the darn gold linker, and start fixing your darn packages! After many years, the underlinking tracker [1] is still full of bugs. This is a huge QA problem, and most of the developers don't test for it. Long story short, the thing usually looks like this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Electron external dependencies

2016-08-17 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 08/17/2016 10:17 PM, Elvis Pranskevichus wrote: > On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:05:53 PM EDT Lars Wendler wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:27:40 +0300 Alexander Revin wrote: >>> Hello, >>> > > Electron is, essentially, modified Chromium. We do the same unbundling as > the > Chromium ebui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Electron external dependencies

2016-08-17 Thread Elvis Pranskevichus
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:05:53 PM EDT Lars Wendler wrote: > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:27:40 +0300 Alexander Revin wrote: > >Hello, > > > >Is there any plan to make electron more modular package? Right now it > >builds its own protobuf, mesa and v8 (and maybe much more). These > >packages do ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Electron external dependencies

2016-08-17 Thread Lars Wendler
On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:27:40 +0300 Alexander Revin wrote: >Hello, > >Is there any plan to make electron more modular package? Right now it >builds its own protobuf, mesa and v8 (and maybe much more). These >packages do exist in a tree, maybe it's possible to reuse them? > >Regards, >Alex Hi Alex,

[gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc using modprobe directly to load kernel modules

2016-08-17 Thread William Hubbs
All, I'm starting this thread because of the bug I'm citing below [1]. The issue is that some systems do not use kernel modules, and do not have kmod installed at all. Since we run modprobe unconditionally in a few places in OpenRC, we always generate "modprobe: command not found" errors on syste

[gentoo-dev] Electron external dependencies

2016-08-17 Thread Alexander Revin
Hello, Is there any plan to make electron more modular package? Right now it builds its own protobuf, mesa and v8 (and maybe much more). These packages do exist in a tree, maybe it's possible to reuse them? Regards, Alex

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree

2016-08-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 17-08-2016 a las 09:07 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > I'm not sure I agree.  If it is scripted, then isn't it just a few > more cpu cycles? Well... until I see that script, I won't trust it. We are for a long time supposedly allowing people to move things to testing after 90 days and that

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree

2016-08-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 4:50 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El lun, 15-08-2016 a las 15:27 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > > [...] > > Well, I wasn't suggesting that breaking the depgraph is great. Just > > that I think it is better than calling things stable which aren't. > > > > A better approach i

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: /etc/init.d/modules loading modules defined in files

2016-08-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> modules=$(sed -n -e '/^[^;#]/p' /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf \ >> /usr/lib/modules-load.d/*.conf 2>/dev/null || : ) > > This simple implementation does not follow the precedence rules > documented in modules-load.d(5). I didn't mean it as the recommended implementa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: /etc/init.d/modules loading modules defined in files

2016-08-17 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:59 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > William Hubbs wrote: >> >> but I'm open to making the behaviour compatible >> with what systemd does > > Since openrc already supports tmpfiles.d, > support for modules-load.d would be natural. > In fact, this is already done for quite a whil

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree

2016-08-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 15-08-2016 a las 15:01 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: > [...] >  This works unless you are talking about packages in @system. > I do see core packages on these arches also languish in ~ for months > with open stable requests. > > The only way to handle one of those would be to remove the o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: LXDE

2016-08-17 Thread Raymond Jennings
>From an interested user, you have my thanks. On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 1:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El sáb, 13-08-2016 a las 22:39 -0700, Hanno Böck escribió: > > Ok, so it seems I'm currently the only one interested. > > > > While the wiki page lists no other devs, there are two more devs > > l

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Working Group established to evaluate the stable tree

2016-08-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 15-08-2016 a las 15:27 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > [...] > Well, I wasn't suggesting that breaking the depgraph is great.  Just > that I think it is better than calling things stable which aren't. > > A better approach is a script that does the keyword cleanup. > > So, if you want to

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: /etc/init.d/modules loading modules defined in files

2016-08-17 Thread Martin Vaeth
William Hubbs wrote: > > but I'm open to making the behaviour compatible > with what systemd does Since openrc already supports tmpfiles.d, support for modules-load.d would be natural. In fact, this is already done for quite a while in https://github.com/vaeth/firewall-mv/blob/master/openrc/conf