Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: hwclock service in OpenRC

2018-12-15 Thread Christopher Head
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:36:00 +0300
Andrew Savchenko  wrote:

> Yes, it is. CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS (and CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC) is
> available in kernel for years and should be a preferred way to
> handle the clock.
> 
> Best regards,
> Andrew Savchenko

AFAIK those options still don’t work with RTCs set to local time, do
they? Which, sadly, are required by anyone who dual-boots with a certain
other OS made by Microsoft? So hwclock will still be needed for many
people—perhaps kernel support should be the default, but a painless
migration path for those who need to keep using hwclock would be
appropriate (if any migration is even needed—I’m unclear on whether
hwclock would be removed from the boot runlevel on existing installs or
only not added on new installs).
-- 
Christopher Head


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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: hwclock service in OpenRC

2018-12-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi!

On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:18:26 -0600 William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
> 
> the hwclock service is Linux specific, so all of this applies only to
> OpenRC on Linux.
> 
> OpenRC currently adds the hwclock service to the boot runlevel upstream.
> The linux kernel also has had a way for some time to handle the clock
> itself if you have an RTC.
> 
> Is it reasonable to stop adding the hwclock service to the boot runlevel
> upstream and documenting the options and asking users to make that
> choice?

Yes, it is. CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS (and CONFIG_RTC_SYSTOHC) is
available in kernel for years and should be a preferred way to
handle the clock.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] adding more entries to profiles/info_pkgs

2018-12-15 Thread Mikle Kolyada

On 15.12.2018 5:00, Georgy Yakovlev wrote:
> Hi,
>
> while lurking on bugzilla lately I noticed that package part of 
> "emerge --info" output may be lacking in some cases.
>
> Good candidates for adding to that file are:
>
> virtual/rust
> llvm ?
> dev-util/meson
> dev-util/ninja
>
> that should be enough to provide a bit more to initial information without 
> going crazy and clobbering output too much.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Georgy Yakovlev
> Gentoo Linux Developer


They all are not way too much spread, especially rust.

Do not think it worth to include them.

meson can be reconsidered later, as more and more people are using this one.




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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-375* =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-378* =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-381* =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-384* =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-387* =x11-d

2018-12-15 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 15:04:22 +0100
Jeroen Roovers  wrote:

> According to Nvidia these are former "Short Lived" branches that are no
> longer supported.
> 
> 
> # Jeroen Roovers  (14 Dec 2018)
> # Deprecated short lived branches
> # https://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
> # File a bug report if you need to use one of these
> # Removal on or about 14 January 2019
> =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-375*
> =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-378*
> =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-381*
> =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-384*
> =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-387*
> =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-396*

I personally have a 540M, for which the "newest" supporting drivers are
396.18

But I'm not gonna block this, I'm just irate with the status quo
upstream is delivering. Noveau support is just as flaky and so my only
option is "hey, just stop using video acceleration", which, amongst
other things, makes video conferencing impossible.

So I'm not going to cite Linus'es opinions on Nvidia verbatim here, but
if you know what they are, well, pretend I did :)

( And please, no nonsense about upgrading hardware, unlike upgrading
software, upgrading hardware isn't free )


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] adding more entries to profiles/info_pkgs

2018-12-15 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 18:00:55 -0800
Georgy Yakovlev  wrote:

> Good candidates for adding to that file are:
> 
> virtual/rust
> llvm ?
> dev-util/meson
> dev-util/ninja

I'm really not sure these are widespread enough to justify putting
those details in the ouput of every emerge --info.

Instead, it seems to make more sense to have them displayed via the
pkg_info() function[1], which can be provided by eclasses where need be.

1: https://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/functions/pkg_info/index.html


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