Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/salt, dev-python/pytest-salt-factories, dev-python/boto

2024-02-28 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi Patrick, The salt ebuild has been refactored to remove the tests and modules that require dev-python/boto, and the mask has been removed. Salt has a lot of users, and it would be doing them a disservice to remove it from the tree. Salt is not trivial to distribute, because upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 2/28/24 6:06 AM, Matt Jolly wrote: > >> But where do we draw the line? Are translation tools like DeepL >> allowed? I don't see much of a copyright issue for these. > > I'd also like to jump in and play devil's advocate. There's a fair > chance that this is because I just got back from a >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 1:50 PM Arthur Zamarin wrote: > > I know that GitHub Copilot can be limited to licenses, and even to just > the current repository. Even though, I'm not sure that the copyright can > be attributed to "me" and not the "AI" - so still gray area. So, AI copyright is a bit of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread Arthur Zamarin
On 27/02/2024 16.45, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > Given the recent spread of the "AI" bubble, I think we really need to > look into formally addressing the related concerns. In my opinion, > at this point the only reasonable course of action would be to safely > ban "AI"-backed contribution

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 2024-02-28 at 11:08 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 21:05 -0600, Oskari Pirhonen wrote: > > > What about cases where someone, say, doesn't have an excellent grasp of > > > English and decides to use, for

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2024-02-26-debianutils-drops-installkernel-dep: add news item v2

2024-02-28 Thread Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan
On 27/02/2024 18:24, Hank Leininger wrote: On 2024-02-27, andrewammerlaan wrote: Until recently, sys-apps/debianutils was in turn pulled in by app-misc/ca-certificates, an essential package installed on many systems. This is no longer the case.[2]. As a result many users may find that

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread Matt Jolly
But where do we draw the line? Are translation tools like DeepL allowed? I don't see much of a copyright issue for these. I'd also like to jump in and play devil's advocate. There's a fair chance that this is because I just got back from a supercomputing/research conf where LLMs were the hot

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2] java-ant-2.eclass: change JAVA_ANT_E_DEPEND to dev-java/ant

2024-02-28 Thread Volkmar W. Pogatzki
Also removes unused eclass variable JAVA_ANT_DISABLE_ANT_CORE_DEP which becomes obsolete by removal of old dev-java/ant-core-1.10.9-r5. Signed-off-by: Volkmar W. Pogatzki --- eclass/java-ant-2.eclass | 14 ++ 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread David Seifert
On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 15:45 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > Given the recent spread of the "AI" bubble, I think we really need to > look into formally addressing the related concerns.  In my opinion, > at this point the only reasonable course of action would be to safely > ban "AI"-backed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 2024-02-27 at 21:05 -0600, Oskari Pirhonen wrote: >> What about cases where someone, say, doesn't have an excellent grasp of >> English and decides to use, for example, ChatGPT to aid in writing >> documentation/comments (not code) and puts