at bugzilla there are tons of
bugs open.
I also think we should stick to the = notation instead, which it is
cleaner imho.
It does not mean the same, it would require adding a dep that is not actually
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change that to =, you get a forced fake dep on xpdf, requiring
everyone using poppler to have xpdf installed, too.
That's what we're trying to avoid.
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wrote).
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)... we deserve it as Gentoo/FreeBSD is at
a level not so far from Gentoo Linux, and Gentoo for Mac OSX is still going
on.
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. Gentoo/FreeBSD is by all means a FreeBSD
distribution (actually, PC-BSD started this a bit before of us).
We didn't fork it to change the base system, we use FreeBSD basesystem and
portage, so it's not like others BSD.
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, as everything), and I like the improvements.
But this is not the place to discute this.
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knowledge of tricks.
GDP might be the place where to put them, but as they are mainly
developer-oriented, they might be better accessed directly by devs (at least
for the first steps until they are drafts).
What people think about this?
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-related). This still does not
resolve issues for other things like the quilt guide I tried to start writing
(but then I'm not so good at explain the user/dev part of it).
But at least I'll probably have time to spend on the other stuff for a while
if Sven allows me :)
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discussed.
wgetrc can be changed to not bitch about it, or a switch can be added to the
FETCHCOMMAND command (but it requires a newer version of wget as older don't
understand it and bails out, the first is the ideal, IMHO, as people can
still change that in their ~/.wgetrc).
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${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.mask or a
variation on the theme, that's also why metadata.xml got listed, too.
I have a partial ruby script that might work to get the real kde packages to a
given version but it's still raw...
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headaches for us.
Comments about this? (Please don't tell me to do a GLEP about this)
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find and xargs and
similar, the rest are a problem that's already worked around and for now is
fine as they are.
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need to. But find, xargs and in
general subshells not honouring bashrc are the main big problem.
Other suggestions are of course welcome, if you have something constructive to
say about that.
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not exactly the cleanest solution: while it would have an
immediate effect with no work required, it will increas, and not decrease)
the number of assumption portage does. I think this is one of the worse
things that can be done at this point.
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On Wednesday 25 January 2006 07:54, MIkey wrote:
media-video/xine-ui-0.99.3-r1 (/usr/bin/xine-bugreport)
One would suppose that newer coreutils goes in ~arch so the ~arch version
should be tested, mainly.
xine-ui 0.99.4-r3 has that fixed at least.
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have knowledge of eselect to do that, but this might be interesting in
a generic way for alternatives, and I'd like to help if someone would start
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list for kdetv, I just changed a bit the way I declare it and added a for
loop to add the IUSE.
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, and
might help people who don't know they can set LINGUAS...
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On Monday 30 January 2006 06:17, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
Defining LINGUAS variable would be useful to allow people to know whether
they are going to have special support for their language in a package, but
it would also clutter the output quite a bit.
Okay then.. I'm still looking
on...
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wouldn't know how to do them.
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there the ebuild uses ALSA_CARDS
directly, not sure what would happen if someone tries to set the things in
package.use ...).
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to put
the linguas_* to use.local.desc.
(If you can't tell, yeah I'm using a polemic tone this time)
I'm wondering if to have a solution we're going to wait till the
use.local.desc file is cluttered with all the linguas_* flags.
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Now we only need a linguas.desc that contains the right codes (lang.desc does
not really sound that good, some of the codes are used in a different way by
locales, like en-gb vs en_GB).
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IUSE.invalid until repoman is fixed;
- leave the 10 flags there alone and wait till repoman is fixed.
Up to you baby.
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On Sunday 05 February 2006 22:04, Mike Frysinger wrote:
You can remove them, but then it's your turn with Mr_Bones_ about them.
done
Thanks :)
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things don't scan clearly to
a native reader, but it's probably not worth fixing them at this stage.
Thanks, the cleanup of english form is much appreciated.
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, they can do way more
damage than just this.
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not wrong.
Last entry, for the same variable, rules. Of course, variables merges
together.
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On Friday 10 February 2006 09:00, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
Could you add a definition of 'safe' to the GLEP? It's not clear what
this means at the moment.
Variables that can be counted on, as users can't change them in unexpectable
ways without hacking the tree :)
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On Friday 10 February 2006 21:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
kfreebsd-gnu is, in effect, one example you're using already. You'd have
x86 as the arch, FreeBSD as the kernel and GNU as the userland.
x86-kfbsd
I can't see other kfbsd cases for now.
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On Friday 10 February 2006 22:05, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
See, you're saying two should be enough and then special casing when
two isn't enough. Why not just go for two is usually enough, but use
three where necessary?
On Friday 10 February 2006 01:44, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
Although
have time in that moment I leave a comment
telling where or what to look for..not like there's always someone ready to
fix :)
If I start thinking this bug I'll fix later and provide just pointers to
users, I'm sure I'm going to forget about it. I actually did that already :)
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On Monday 13 February 2006 19:49, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
They also deserve it if they stick it in their CXXFLAGS...
In that case even more, as it actually does something: break stuff.
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On Wednesday 22 February 2006 19:34, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
Ugh, it looks like this new 'BMPx' branch uses gstreamer. Is there no
way to keep the good old clean, working version of BMP in portage?
That is audacious.
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On Sunday 26 February 2006 21:25, Daniel wrote:
Rather than littering kde-misc with more applications I propose using
kde-kxdocker instead.
I'd rather see a kde-themes where to move also stuff like lipstik and keramik
instead of x11-themes...
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enabled because it's not needed for me, should be the rest of the world to
change
I'd be the first to be interested in having it enabled by default, tho.
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, tho.
Yes, otherwise spelling your name is almost impossible :-)
That, and I'm actually trying to find time to learn Japanese :P
But time is something I don't have abundant :|
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-domain?)
The best thing is probably if the authors can change that directly on CTAN or
if the reporter can provide a signed statement with a public key that is
recognized to be of one of the authors at least.
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Italian conspiracy pretty well ;)
And at least I can have someone understanding what I say on Gentoo/Alt ;P
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On Monday 06 March 2006 20:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alfredo has joined the Gentoo team to help with the games herd. I'm sure
he'll have a fun time testing all those games :)
Welcome!
We're really going to form a conspiracy now :P
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for the other binary proprietary stuff.
I hope we can agree on something that allows to have a better experience with
the new features of portage 2.1 :)
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.
It's not going to be a quick thing, as I'm mostly alone with Gentoo/FreeBSD
right now (help is always welcome), but times are mature so that I can
provide a decent experience to users.
Can anybody name a showstopper to this?
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for Gentoo/FreeBSD...
right now we need 2.1, and there will probably be more things to fix in the
future, so...
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don't think we have problem with flexibility, but rather with phrasing, as
it's still blocked down to that point.
Of course, it would help if someone from portage team would like to work on
its implementation beforehand so that we can experiment the flexibility :P
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On Monday 20 March 2006 18:42, Roy Marples wrote:
Now, if the commandline is the same, should the package name be the same?
If so, what version number should I be using? It's currently just called
resolvconf-0.1
I would say gentoo-resolvconf as it's a rewrite/fork.
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are different than usual keyboard driver and stuff like vmware doesn't seem
to like that.
Knowing Mike, probably some game does the same, too ;)
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requirement (portage, anyone?) and it's way less pain
that ghc, IMHO.
I'm also sure bzr works fine on FreeBSD, DragonFly and OSX as I've tried it
myself..
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is not as cheap as cvs or svn, or even as bazaar-ng and mercurial,
wrt dependencies.
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, especially when starting a
new port, that might be quite interesting, if not to use already present
overlays, to have an overlay itself.
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for more people would be something that will a) piss me off quite a bit
because of the paradox said above b) make the whole project laughtable by
other Free Software projects finding the above analogy...
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On Sunday 02 April 2006 20:16, Mike Frysinger wrote:
or you can be the hero and fix the packages
ehehe yeah I'll do when i'll have more time, like i did for binutils ;)
By the way, that patch? :P
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using UTF-8 to be able to
exchange information with the others... Mac OS X already uses UTF-8 by
default as system codepage.
This means that always more users will find problems and crashes with GTK
1.2...
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(depends when I find time for them,
actually, and how much I can go on without having the need of these
virtuals).
Thanks,
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as assumed the presence of basic utilities like
shadow, findutils and admin-processes, but if I'm not allowed to drop the
deps or put them under conditional, this is only going to hinder me
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compared to 3.5.1 (that
still, vanilla, wasn't usable for activity diagrams at all).
That said, I doubt we can have anything stable in less that another month or
even two.
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we'd like to mark 3.5 stable as much as you do, probably even
more as there are fixed things, but it's not possible for now.
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they ask you if you didn't really meant to attach
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copyright is stated.
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) will stop working.
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On Monday 17 April 2006 22:26, Olivier Crête wrote:
Then you should probably has new drivers block old servers and new
servers block old drivers...
Better have new drivers depend on new server rather...
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On Thursday 20 April 2006 05:28, Alec Warner wrote:
Is there any problem with adding dev-util/confcache and dev-util/ccache
to info_pkgs?
Being the one to take the pieces of confcache, I'm _really_ happy to see that
happening :)
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-ubin ), but there are more cases where sys-devel/pmake is
depped upon, but we need a generic BSDish make. No we can't use pmake on
FreeBSD.
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On Friday 21 April 2006 01:37, Mike Frysinger wrote:
put it in your system target
It is already for Gentoo/FreeBSD (note that without freebsd-bin you probably
can't even login), but it's to specify the dependency.
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On Saturday 29 April 2006 05:01, Drake Wyrm wrote:
I stand corrected. Might it be acceptable, though, to set it with
something like
No, it's an user variable.
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on this is something you don't want, as that takes time to the bugs
resolution.
If you really want, you use ~arch directly, I'm doing that since I started
using Gentoo, and works as a charm for me.
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be made stable
at least as each big downloadable file becomes ready, if not individually ?
Because they have to be stable at once. Period.
Can't go stable piece by piece. Period.
Can't. Period.
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and take care of it, we're _really_
understaffed especially for video editors.
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On Thursday 11 May 2006 06:44, Mike Frysinger wrote:
or because reading GLEP 42 is boooring
s/42 /s/
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On Thursday 11 May 2006 14:01, Martin Ehmsen wrote:
Syntax error!
More than syntax is me who was sleeping.
Although I suppose this means we all agree ;)
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On Thursday 11 May 2006 14:19, Jan Kundrát wrote:
s/GLEP 42/boring -dev threads which are completely OT/
Ehi, I find this more interesting than what the original was going to be :P
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an ebuild maintainer some more, many parts of
the current tree are at a minimum understaffed, if we're going to have to
start dealing with bugs coming from users experimenting with something else
but portage, we'd be _really_ taken over.
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(the BSD team), not handled down to maintainers at
all.
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On Tuesday 13 June 2006 20:27, Stephen Bennett wrote:
They're rather minimal, and still an order of magnitude larger than what
I'm proposing here.
Right, the point is not the change in itself but the way people are going to
experimenting with it.
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a big change argument here...)
Let's see:
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:06, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
++ for Halcy0n, and adding from an ebuild maintainer some more, many parts
of the current tree are at a minimum understaffed, if we're going to have
to start dealing with bugs coming from users
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 22:13, Jan Kundrát wrote:
See /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/dev/README :)
You think the phrase RTFM would have ever been forged if people actually
read that stuff?
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and all the teams are well informed how to identify people
using paludis and where to redirect all those bugs to (so you need an alias
on Bugzilla I'd say).
This is the minimum first step.
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reasons for the agreement.
Ooh, so it's a small change argument? That's even more hypocritical.
Oooh so it's a you did a mistake and now you try to make me pass for the
fool argument, isn't it?
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and
officially supported.
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/Alt profiles are in the Gentoo/Alt overlay.
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and RubyTag++,
but they both has nothing to do with Gentoo (I even moved out rubytag++ from
my dev space on woodpecker to move it on my own server).
Gentoo != Gentoo Developers (only)
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don't see profiles that uses any of them. Nor you'll ever see them.
They are there mainly for developers' peace when they have to inspect RPMs or
DEBs (I actually do that often).
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On Friday 19 May 2006 23:44, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
If you just want the latest git rather than snapshots etc, you could do
a git-sources-.ebuild. That seems to have become the standard.
I would suggest a 2.6.999 just to be on the safe side ;)
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? ( sys-apps/eject ) sys-block/unieject kernel_FreeBSD? (
sys-apps/eject-bsd ) )
this way when used with a kernel different by Linux it defaults to unieject
(my reimplementation) that using libcdio would be simpler to port.
Thoughts?
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On Friday 26 May 2006 01:10, Danny van Dyk wrote:
DEPEND=dev-util/cmake-${NEED_CMAKE+-${NEED_CMAKE}}
And see it die of a strange death missing the = in front?
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, anything would be useful :)
Count on me for testing, and for ~amd64 and ~x86-fbsd marking when needed ;)
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transcode 0.6 and freaking contined
to support that stupid package :P
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On Saturday 03 June 2006 17:40, Andrej Kacian wrote:
Will that result in dramatic increase of anime smilies in Gentoo
environment?
Of course, else we'll be all angry _ ..
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