with gtk1 vs gtk2 back then.
http://marc.info/?l=gentoo-devm=111212920310822w=2
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This is not the level of friendliness that is going to welcome potential
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it. Speed is absolutely a usability
feature but it's not the only one that matters. Maintaining EAPI parity
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if there are other opinions.
It's essentially only used by the small minority of people installing
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be confusing to users.
It would probably be a better fit in gentoolkit or a similar tool.
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On 12:31 Mon 23 Dec , Jeroen Roovers wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:07:21 -0600
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seems we should add repoman support to check profiles/. Spec mandates
that are not implemented in any tool are unlikely to be adhered to.
repoman does not work
it:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/pms/5/pms.html#x1-390004.4.4
Seems we should add repoman support to check profiles/. Spec mandates
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be done directly in
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bug is an acceptable time frame before you go ahead and fix it
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read through some old threads and do the same.
There's https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333531
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, in terms of how to phrase things, this is way wrong.
If you're comfortable with your stuff breaking really? No. If you want
to help improve Gentoo.
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how many ebuilds are affected?
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. It's all about choice. If
there are no objections and if the PR team gives an ack. I'd like to
add video hangouts under the PR project (I'll create a simple faq page
in wiki about VCs).
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2) we can carry some patches from upstreams trees that possibly aren't yet in
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smaller
group of our users. (Thinking about our thinkpad patches)
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gotten over 10,000 views of an intro talk on Gentoo
that's posted on YouTube despite its pretty bad audio quality, and
nearly 2,000 views of a Gentoo talk targeted at developers, so there's
clearly people looking for this stuff.
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).
This is the part that would be most useful to document more. Suggesting
which tags would be valuable to include. Fixes, Reviewed-by,
Signed-off-by, etc.
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our ability to get useful things done.
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, people will
need to reemerge the package or read directly the ebuild
What do you think?
Bikeshedding ... would go with README.gentoo, because people are already
used to looking for README files. Every time we can eliminate
Gentoo-specific weirdness, we should.
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On 04:22 Fri 23 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 11:11 Sun 18 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote:
Here's a list of every package where I'm a maintainer and there is no
herd listed (but their might be other maintainers):
I
know the guy
running it pretty well.
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On 16:27 Sun 13 May , Mike Gilbert wrote:
To make ebuilds utilizing python-distutils-ng.eclass usable
I didn't read any farther because I couldn't stop laughing. What will
the next version of this eclass be called, -ng-ng? -really-ng? =)
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Awesome, never seen that before!
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rid of it sooner --
but almost four months seem to be a safe period considering that we
are still in 'testing' stage mostly.
So other systemd-using distros have it in /usr? I'd follow their
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this is kinda defeating the point of these news
items. It's certainly more news rather than a long-term useful document,
because at some point the change will happen, and then things are just
the way they are.
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On 05:16 Fri 02 Dec , Duncan wrote:
TL;DR: reiserfs (v3), for both caps and XT_PAX ??
A bit OT, but I find it incredibly ironic that perhaps the shortest
email you've ever written contained a TL;DR segment.
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personally, i've never found .rej useful.
It's nice if you use dev-util/wiggle.
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On 12:22 Thu 20 Oct , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thursday 20 October 2011 11:58:44 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 01:26 Thu 20 Oct , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 19 October 2011 15:40:50 Brian Harring wrote:
Name's a bit off though considering if the host was amd64, `huse amd64
On 09:55 Mon 10 Oct , Michał Górny wrote:
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:08:43 -0500
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 10:21 Sun 09 Oct , Michał Górny wrote:
We're calling it with '--patch-only' to avoid heavy changes to
ebuilds. This should handle gracefully eautoreconfed
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the correct version installed before proceeding. Blaming
that on qutecom is far-fetched IMO.
There's like a million packages that use features in linux-headers, so
it's not a isolated effect as with xorg-server.
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And as Michał is making many of the changes recently because scarabeus
got busy and the eclass works fine for me already, I figure it's his
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Not really, because when you update a bundled lib you actually make
your whole app compile with it. People change the APIs of eclasses
and then just let every internal
On 18:04 Thu 22 Sep , Alec Warner wrote:
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I do, because I don't have time to deal with other people breaking
my packages, whether they're in gentoo-x86, the science overlay, or
my personal one. I've got more
On 14:20 Tue 20 Sep , Brian Harring wrote:
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:16:46PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
OK, so the implication of what you're saying is that everything in
eutils.eclass, base.eclass, toolchain-funcs.eclass,
flag-o-matic.eclass, versionator.eclass, multilib.eclass
On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep , Corentin Chary wrote:
Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It should not
take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are probably not good
enought to do that.
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On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:59:08PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 13:43 Fri 16 Sep , Brian Harring wrote:
What I said from the getgo and you're missing is that pushing EAPI
implementation into the tree and ignoring EAPI, or having
managers have been
available in stable.
So in your opinion, it would be fine to bump profiles/eapi to EAPI=4
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of forked dependent repositories too, I haven't thought much about it.
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more integer calculations unless they're
science geeks like me, plus it should have lower memory use, so my
understanding is that it probably makes sense to switch to x32 no matter
what you're using now (x86 or amd64).
Mike, would you agree?
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and possibly descriptions.
Do something like layman or repoman where it auto-fetches periodically.
Layman has the advantage of also supporting add-on files in addition to
the main one. I don't want this in my repo.
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parts of them were dependent. =) Maybe use some `git rebase
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On 19:14 Tue 13 Sep , Brian Harring wrote:
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On 17:56 Tue 13 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
useful
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useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into eutils.eclass
? OR BOTH !?
I prefer to avoid EAPI whenever
On 06:34 Wed 14 Sep , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
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Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 17:56 Tue 13 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote:
useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into
eutils.eclass ? OR BOTH !?
I prefer to avoid EAPI
to keep consistency with the parent function has(), so it's
obvious exactly how it will work.
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decided that just
waiting a year, as we used to do, isn't good enough anymore; but at the
same time, we don't have a better mechanism in place yet. So we're
waffling around, doing nothing.
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of installation.
Lots of typos here.
HOMEPAGE=http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OSC;
LICENSE=GPL-2
SLOT=0
IUSE=
RDEPEND+=dev-util/osc
You probably want a space here.
RDEPEND+= dev-util/osc
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On 17:58 Tue 13 Sep , Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 09/13/11 16:44, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
It's because people want to pretend that it's possible for
incredibly outdated systems (those with bash-3 only) to be updated.
Actually it's worse - PMS enforces this, and the only clean way out
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useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into eutils.eclass
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+ ${f}) ]] \
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is trying to statically build
a package not using pkg-config that links against anything X11-related
(since all of them have .pc files).
It's probably more that nobody cares about static building than that
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Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
local f
for f in $(find ${D} -type f -name '*.la'); do
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likely plugins local shouldnotlink=$(sed
On 14:44 Thu 01 Sep , Petteri Räty wrote:
One thing to note is that we should get eqawarn into the next EAPI.
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On 23:12 Thu 25 Aug , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Existing users will not be switched automatically.
Why not? If it's considered the supported route going forward, we should
just do it automatically.
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On 17:51 Wed 31 Aug , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Donnie Berkholz schrieb:
On 23:12 Thu 25 Aug , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Existing users will not be switched automatically.
Why not? If it's considered the supported route going forward, we should
just do
that collect data from users
and compile it,
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2. http://dev.gentoo.org/~neurogeek/guidexml/ (temporary homepage)
3.
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-soc/msg_e29529cb6f3dfc762f4f7e313b106deb.xml
4. http://soc.dev.gentoo.org/~darkdefender/ebuildgenerator
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source at the same time as binary clause (i.e., 3b rather than 3a in
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On 21:23 Tue 16 Aug , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
A side-note that we've wanted to get out to all devs is that everyone
should *always* use IUSE=+introspection.
Then why is it a flag?
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wouldn't duplicate history.
If you're interested in fixing the above problems as well as the ones
that exist regardless of repo format (linked on the main tracker bug
[2]), then submodules could become a better option.
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through, there should've been a
part at the end that said:
, so you need to do XX to avoid YY from happening.
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On 14:40 Tue 19 Jul , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 14:32, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
W dniu 19.07.2011 19:31, Donnie Berkholz pisze:
On 11:43 Sun 17 Jul , Kacper Kowalik wrote:
W dniu 17.07.2011 10:45, Kfir Lavi pisze:
src_compile() {
emake CC=$(tc-getCC) || die
problems comes
up. I recommended upgrades to the new admin every 3 months, which is a
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the --take argument and friends that Ciaran mentioned
seems reasonable (perhaps --accept-suggestion, w/ a short option to
save typing).
Problems? Other thoughts?
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One of my favorites for weird cases is ~.
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be nice if we could somehow discriminate between DEPEND and RDEPEND for
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. That would address one of the biggest objections
many people have had to such a package-to-file search engine.
It would also be pretty useful for some other GSoC projects, like the
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in ebuild functions. Sample code in listing
12.1 in my copy of the PMS seems to suggest this is perfectly fine
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to also
fix some of the frontend usability issues.
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One potential cleaner approach to the same idea Kfir suggested is to
make it an interactive emerge with an ACCEPT_LICENSE-like feature that
pops up something you must read and agree to.
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On 15:48 Mon 18 Apr , Corentin Chary wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Some teams have official overlays. Supporting those as an additional
source of ebuilds would be pretty nice.
I'll just checkout these trees on my machine
On 15:48 Mon 18 Apr , Corentin Chary wrote:
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Another useful thing would be a way to supply CPV tokens for any
unstable upstream series that we'll never add to the tree.
There is already some kind
will start laughing at
yet another new init system. =)
If there's a guide around already, or a blog post, or you want to draft
something, let me know and I'd be happy to polish it up.
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means something much different.
We have the ability to do these kinds of intersections today, since our
wonderful bug wranglers normally insert the $CAT/$PN into summaries and
Diego has tinderbox bugs filed.
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were supposed to have Smolt support like two years ago. What
happened to it?
I wonder the same question too, since it seems statistics is an
eternally returning GSoC project.
Sebastian, you worked on this in 2009. What needs to happen to get it
deployed?
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separate conditionals, with just one test
per [[ ]].
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/way in git), then
grab them as separate bare checkouts that would eventually be cloned
into TMPDIR by changing the repo location git looks for (again, need to
sort out how in git).
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it to a crisp.
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This could work well with --shared; even worked for me on separate
partitions.
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clean out the fonts that still use the old way
and delete most of this?
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On 07:50 Tue 08 Mar , Hans de Graaff wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 08:13 -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Thanks! One thing I've been very interested about in 3.x and 4.x is API
access that's better than screen-scraping. I tried using the
python-bugzilla client that accesses Bugzilla
using the
python-bugzilla client that accesses Bugzilla via XML-RPC but it didn't
seem to work. Do we have anything available?
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On 16:35 Mon 07 Mar , Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 15:13, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Thanks! One thing I've been very interested about in 3.x and 4.x is API
access that's better than screen-scraping. I tried using the
python-bugzilla client
list, but
make sure to discuss them in advance of applying so you find a mentor.
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such a list.
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