Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: On 11/18/2012 11:59 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: All I'm asking is some kind of coherent mission statement. How can we define a mission statement when we are still in the process of understanding the codebase, what it does

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-17 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: As I posted elsewhere, working on a project based on hate only lasts so long. I should know, that's the reason I started udev in the first place over 9 years ago. The Xfree86 people generated a lot of hate, just

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install media be replaced with pbzip2. It was closed a short while later, telling me that it'd involve changing what's kept in @system, and that had to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-24 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:10:21 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:59:14 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:51:27 +0200 Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 22/09/2012 20:42, Matt Turner wrote: I think this means make 32-bit binary packages' dependencies on amd64 not use the emul- packages? If so, that'd certainly be a component of getting rid of emul-linux-x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:02 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I prefer the stronger solution. This is just a quick workaround. And I'd prefer if people who aren't involved with what I'm working on don't try to block my progress. I appreciate your opinion, and truthfully I'd just rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Matt Turner schrieb: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: One problem that I remembered now: If every ebuild inheritting this eclass (either this one or similar) will add a multilib USE, people running multilib profiles will get it enabled for ALL packages inheritting it, causing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. Thanks a lot, Michał! This looks good to me. Use case: xorg packages, ask Matt. So the idea is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 22/09/2012 18:54, Matt Turner wrote: I'd like to add multilib USE flags to Mesa and thus its dependencies. I realized that almost everything in x11-libs/ could be converted very easily, which would allow us

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 19 September 2012 03:18, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: Readability is more important, and there I still don't buy the argument that the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Matt Turner wrote: From the other thread (example conversion of gentoo-x86 current deps to unified dependencies): [Sorry, I've missed this one in the other thread, so replying here.] 4

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP: gentoo sync based unified deps proposal

2012-09-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 19 September 2012 14:01, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 19 September 2012 03:18, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 18

Re: [gentoo-dev] example conversion of gentoo-x86 current deps to unified dependencies

2012-09-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: 1) 746 hits in the tree for COMMON_DEPEND; that's 2%, and the usages I'm aware of have been for literally, what it sounds like- depends that are both DEPEND and RDEPEND. CDEPEND is pretty common as well. I could 466 files

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unified DEPENDENCIES concept

2012-09-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Since DEPENDENCIES hasn't been written up in a Gentoo-friendly manner, and since the Exherbo documentation doesn't seem to suffice to explain the idea here, here's some more details on the DEPENDENCIES

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make connman a global USE flag

2012-07-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Several packages are using it with the same sense (support connman), maybe we should move it from local to global USEs, what do you think? Off-topic question, but how is connman related to NetworkManager? Is it an alternative,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles

2012-07-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Matt Turner schrieb: I suppose that's just for ease of implementation? Not having to special-case packages that don't install binaries. I dont follow. Did you think about only having additional ABI flags for certain cases

Re: GLEP draf for cross-compile support in multilib profiles (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: spec draft for cross-compile support in future EAPI (EAPI-5))

2012-06-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul- packages and also because multilib is pretty important for mips. If a package has dependencies, then those dependencies are required to have at least the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-27 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:45:46 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:43:10 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: It treats -r300 as being newer than -r200, and so will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: 2. Arches were Git repos are too heavy (Kumba wanted this for MIPS) Please don't go to this trouble for the ability to commit to portage on *really* slow systems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] latest commits to dev-lang/go

2012-05-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:37:39PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: All, I know my latest commits to dev-lang/go haven't updated the ChangeLog. I got into the habbit of using repoman commit -[Mm] to do that, but for some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible lastrite of sys-fs/rar2fs (waiting for upstream reaction)

2012-05-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (05 May 2012) # Broken with unrar-4.2.1 wrt upstream ticket of: # http://code.google.com/p/rar2fs/issues/detail?id=10 # Either waiting for fixed release, or the package will # be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-05-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/26/12 at 06:00PM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:04:08 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: Arg, no.  Please just print the warning if the host doesn't do SSE2. There's no reason to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-04-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Monday 30 April 2012 12:00:59 Rich Freeman wrote: doing it wrong.  I don't like how Google develops Android in the dark, or that they bundle 1GB of third-party stuff in their Chromium source and distribute a favored

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org wrote: I haven't followed the prev. conversation but what's wrong with a USE flag for SSE2? We already have SSE2 flags, even global.. That's not it. The flash binary uses SSE2 instructions without checking for their presence,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-04-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: wouldnt adding a sse2 useflag and putting it in REQUIRED_USE solve the problem ? afaik portage wont even try to upgrade if people have -sse2 If that works, which I think it will, that does sound like the best thing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: A tiny news item for migrating to libjpeg-turbo

2012-04-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: What is the plan for platforms that are not supported by libturbo? It's not that they're not supported, just that libjpeg-turbo doesn't have optimized routines for them. It'll still run fine. (Check the keywords, you'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ocamlopt unmask on arm

2012-04-18 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:14 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear All, I have just emerged ocaml-3.12.0[ocamlopt] on arm and used it to compile mldonkey[ocamlopt]. It seems to work well. it was masked on Apr 18, 2010, , | /usr/portage/profiles$ grep -n -B3 ocamlopt ./arch/arm/use.mask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: On 03/30/12 17:15, Joshua Kinard wrote: Maybe it's time for Gentoo-2.0? I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: On 03/28/12 03:16, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 19:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: But that's ok, because extensive studies have shown that the only possible reasons for putting /usr/portage on its own

[gentoo-dev] Change USE flags when compiling with FEATURES=test

2012-03-17 Thread Matt Turner
So you run set FEATURES=test to run a package's test suite during keywording. Later, you emerge -vuNDa ... and portage wants to reemerge that package with USE=-test. Can't we avoid this somehow? I presume in the vast majority of cases emerging with FEATURES/USE=test doesn't actually affect what's

Re: [gentoo-dev] lurking *.ebuild'less packages

2012-03-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote: slep noticed and reported an odd thing: $ euse -i kate ... ls: cannot access /gentoo/portage/metadata/cache/kde-base/kdebindings-perl-*: No such file or directory ls: cannot access

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About gcc-4.6 unmasking

2012-02-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:34:14 +0100 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed before but, what issues are preventing us from unmasking gcc-4.6 (and think on a near stabilization)? I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] profiles/features/64bit-native/package.use.mask contents redundancy

2012-02-13 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Sergei Trofimovich sly...@gentoo.org wrote: some mips profiles are scary too:    http://dev.gentoo.org/~slyfox/profiles_mips.png Weird. I'll take a look at that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] The following USE changes are necessary to proceed - Why?

2012-02-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM, ross smith gaur...@gmail.com wrote: The line above is not prompting you to turn on the nettle use flag, which appears to already be on.  It's prompting you to add the gmp use flag for dev-libs/nettle. Which looks like it's on as well. In either case -- this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-sound/minitunes

2012-01-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: # Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org (21 Jan 2012) # Package renamed to media-sound/musique # http://flavio.tordini.org/minitunes-renamed-to-musique # Removal in 30 days media-sound/minitunes Is it normal to wipe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild

2012-01-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Mike Frysinger posted on Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:00:52 -0500 as excerpted: On Wednesday 18 January 2012 21:42:14 Michael Weber wrote: Um, what happend to the policy to not f*** around with stable ebuilds? take a chill pill phil

Re: [gentoo-dev] crossdrev mingw 64 bit

2012-01-13 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:49 AM, Dmitrij K kdi...@live.ru wrote: Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 10 of January 2012 03:34:06 Dmitrij K wrote: Dear developers of crossdev. Can you realize --target mingw64 (for creating windows app 64 bit) (like mingw-w64.sourceforge.net)? And can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag neon for ARM NEON optimization(s)

2011-12-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:26 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Samuli Suominen posted on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:03:41 +0200 as excerpted: i'll add USE=neon to use.desc and punt the local descriptions if nobody objects media-libs/libpng: support ARM NEON cpu instruction set

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-libs/zlib: punt from system in profiles

2011-11-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: we have USE=zlib already which should cover automatically pulling in zlib when necessary, and we have that by default in make.conf.  so there's no need to explicitly list zlib as part of the system target.  so time to drop

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-11-08

2011-10-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mié, 26-10-2011 a las 19:15 +0200, Fabian Groffen escribió: On 26-10-2011 19:11:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:06:07 +0200 Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: 3) one step towards

Re: [gentoo-dev] python.eclass EAPI 4 support, this gets really annoying

2011-10-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: OK, so what are the _blocking_ reasons for no EAPI 4 support in python.eclass yet? I understand you have some complicated patches in flight etc etc, but are they _required_ for the eclass not to break with EAPI 4?

Re: [gentoo-dev] python.eclass EAPI 4 support, this gets really annoying

2011-10-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Matthew Summers quantumsumm...@gentoo.org wrote: Its being worked on currently. There are many fairly difficult issues to be worked through here. That's kind of the question though. What's are the issues?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-12 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Saturday 08 October 2011 11:07:49 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno sab, 08/10/2011 alle 11.33 +, Sven Vermeulen ha scritto: - The fix_libtool_files.sh command is now part of the toolchain eclass, so  

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-12 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/13/2011 02:27 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: The removed qutecom ebuild was not broken at any time. by splitting my reply, you changed the meaning.  having qutecom in the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-admin/chrpath: ChangeLog chrpath-0.13-r2.ebuild

2011-10-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I just hope nobody will take an example of the ebuild with code duplication (multiple epatch calls), overquoting, redudant use of find when rm is more than enough, ... I haven't looked, but if we don't already, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Wait, what? If you're not even in QA, then who are you to start masking other people's packages? It seems you don't even bother to read the masking message or my comments on the bug. I said Talk to QA and CC me if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: I am not in QA fwiw just trying to keep a basic QA level in portage tree. Wait, what? If you're not even in QA, then who are you to start masking other people's packages?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Watch your language. This is not your $home playroom And it's not your mailing list. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's tired of your Let Me Insert Myself Into Everything syndrome just because you're on QA. QA's a joke

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:35 PM, James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: MT == Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org writes: MT Is that a problem with the ABI, or just that gcc-4.6 is more strict? MT I think it's the latter. The failure occurs at the linking stage, not the compiling stage. Ie, ln(1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to compile against system libpng15, bug 356127 # Removal in 14 days 14 days? media-gfx/pngcrush

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to compile against system libpng15

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:57 PM, James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: SV == Sven Vermeulen sw...@gentoo.org writes: SV - Since 3.4.0/4.1.0, the C++ ABI is forward-compatible, so rebuilds SV   from that version onwards should not be needed That is not generally true. I use gcc-4.5 as my

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 02:45:02PM -0700, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I checked http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and the Handbook only mentions validating MD5 checksums. There are two

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/08/11 22:45, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: various outdated dev-texlive/* packages

2011-10-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: # Moved to dev-texlive/texlive-langarabic after TeX Live 2009 dev-texlive/texlive-langarab Can this not just be a pkg move?

Re: [gentoo-dev] zlib breakage

2011-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: I believe something needs to be done with the zlib-1.2.5.1-r1 and -r2 packages currently in the tree.  The maintainer of zlib pushed those revisions with a patch that alters macro identifiers, making Gentoo's zlib

[gentoo-dev] How to handle dependencies on protocol headers?

2011-09-15 Thread Matt Turner
Often packages depending on X11 libraries will also have to specify the X11 libraries' proto packages in DEPEND. This is because the X11 library itself #includes files provided by the proto package. It's not really that the X11 library depends on this at run-time, so the protocol packages aren't

[gentoo-dev] Re: How to handle dependencies on protocol headers?

2011-09-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: Often packages depending on X11 libraries will also have to specify the X11 libraries' proto packages in DEPEND. This is because the X11 library itself #includes files provided by the proto package. It's not really

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to handle dependencies on protocol headers?

2011-09-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: The first is more correct, I think, but it's also much more annoying. Mesa winds up having x11-proto/inputproto in DEPEND for some long forgotten reason, for instance. Why is it annoying? Because the proto will have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Found a little problem: it's not finding a newer version of wireless-regdb, which uses a date-based versioning system. If euscan tried to view/parse the directory index where the distfiles are located, it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: The point I was addressing is the suggestion that the above should be possible and the idea that any single developer is entitled to do so. It's a moot point, because no one (that I see) claimed or is

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-boot/arcboot

2011-08-25 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org (25 Aug 2011) # Masked for removal in 30 days. Use arcload instead. sys-boot/arcboot

Re: [gentoo-dev] mesa r600 gallium news item

2011-08-25 Thread Matt Turner
2011/8/25 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org: Hello, Please see the attached news item for review. The news item should be published before mesa-7.11 goes stable. Corresponding bug report: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377349 Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc: dropping cld workaround

2011-08-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: so... is this something where I should suddenly in a moment of clarity shout ah, that cld workaround ?! On Samstag 20 August 2011 20:03:04 Mike Frysinger wrote: we added the cld workaround to gcc-4.3.0+ in early

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] subprofiles for ARM architecture

2011-08-13 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 01:50:42PM +0200, Raúl Porcel wrote: With subprofiles we could keyword such packages, mask them globally on arm and unmask it on the subprofile of the subarchitecture that supports it. I suggest

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/yacc

2011-08-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: now that yacc is no longer part of system, and we have multiple providers of yacc, we need a virtual.  so unless there are any complaints, i'll be adding virtual/yacc which has || ( sys-devel/bison dev-util/yacc ). once

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-libs/libots

2011-08-03 Thread Matt Turner
# Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org) (04 Aug 2011) # libots is only used by Compaq's C compiler, which was tree # cleaned years ago. Masked for removal in 30 days. dev-libs/libots

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:48:16 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 29,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Remove USE=fortran in default profile

2011-06-21 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:17 AM, justin j...@gentoo.org wrote: HI, with the addition of the fortran-2.eclass, it is possible to remove the USE=fortran from the default profiles. Any objections? justin Nope, I actually suggested this back in December, and no one bothered to respond. Sounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] profiles/ChangeLog is too large

2011-06-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: The profiles/ChangeLog file has grown to more than 700 kbytes. Would it make sense to remove ancient (say, pre-2010) entries from it? Maybe it would also help if we added separate ChangeLog files for each subdirectory? Some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reducing glibc's default locale.gen

2011-06-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: On 6/7/11 9:53 PM, Matt Turner wrote: Building 400~ locales is not fun on mips when building stages. Do you have some data to quantify not fun? How long does it take? To build glibc - once for the n32 ABI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wednesday, June 08, 2011 05:27:27 Patrick Lauer wrote: So you say that you want to follow the rules but accidentally forgot it? no idea what you're talking about.  the new policy has 0 relevance to actions performed

[gentoo-dev] Reducing glibc's default locale.gen

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
Hi, Building 400~ locales is not fun on mips when building stages. No user has a need for more than some small subset of the total available locales. I filed bug [1] to request the ability to select locales in catalyst spec files, but no responses after six months -- which is totally typical of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 06/07/2011 10:53 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday, May 16, 2011 09:41:08 Mark Loeser wrote: Mike Frysinger (vapier) vap...@gentoo.org said: vapier      11/05/16 03:30:02   Removed:              

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco was this exact attitude. I don't like the current policy either, it's far too wide. However, if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:32:03 Matt Turner wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused

Re: [gentoo-dev] MULTI_ABI support addition to main tree portage

2011-06-05 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 06/02/2011 03:04 PM, Matt Turner wrote: For this problem, I think some kind of per-ebuild ABI_DEPENDENT flag should be used to recognize which packages ABI dependencies should apply to. Without thinking about it too hard

Re: [gentoo-dev] MULTI_ABI support addition to main tree portage

2011-06-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:06 AM, justin j...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, after testing this, and I have to say it mostly works smooth and fine, I hit a huge problem. I wanted to emerge a package which just depends on glibc provided libs for the oposite ABI my main ABI is. This specific package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: better policy for ChageLogs

2011-06-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: To be clear I support the goal to move our tree to git. However, I'd like to point out that simply moving to git will leave us in the same state. Assuming everyone agrees that git is far more useful than

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/libva: ChangeLog libva-1.0.10.ebuild

2011-05-09 Thread Matt Turner
2011/4/29 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org: 2011/3/9 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org: As for the reasons: its the fdo version + a debian/patches dir with, heh, some fixes and improvements I'm using... So, the SDS version is simply the freedesktop version with a few patches on top? So

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/libva: ChangeLog libva-1.0.10.ebuild

2011-05-09 Thread Matt Turner
2011/5/9 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org: maybe your answer is in the readme :) http://www.splitted-desktop.com/~gbeauchesne/libva/patches/000_README some of them are needed, some of them are useful, some we could certainly drop. If the most important patches could go upstream then, again,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen    11/04/29 18:13:31   Removed:              transmission-2.12.ebuild   Log:   drop old, broken with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/libva: ChangeLog libva-1.0.10.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Matt Turner
2011/3/9 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org: As for the reasons: its the fdo version + a debian/patches dir with, heh, some fixes and improvements I'm using... So, the SDS version is simply the freedesktop version with a few patches on top? So, the freedesktop version is actually... upstream?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: sources.gentoo.org is for that.   ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them So it follows that users don't need to see when ebuilds were removed?

Re: [gentoo-dev] git-2.eclass final review

2011-03-31 Thread Matt Turner
2011/3/31 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: Dne 31.3.2011 06:55, Jeroen Roovers napsal(a): On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:42:51 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: Again the diff is: http://tinyurl.com/62eb88b Why not attach it? What the hell does that URL lead me to? Because our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please enhance your USE descriptions!

2011-03-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:24 PM, justin j...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, the descriptions of USE flags should explain what the USE is good for. In my opinion some thing like Enables foo intergration or Enables support for foo if it isn't totally clear what foo is, sucks!! There are many, many

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES=test, sys-devel/gcc ignored test failures

2011-03-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm trying to understand the problem better - do you know what causes those test failures? I don't expect a complete answer because that'd probably be a half of actually fixing the failures. They both have huge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending removal(?) of media-libs/pdflib

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Dne 22.2.2011 19:20, Mike Frysinger napsal(a): Last time (many moons ago) I've checked cairo did not generated pdf it did generated raster images and wrapped them in a thin pdf

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: package.keywords-compatible snippets when stabilizing multiple packages

2011-02-16 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't think making a list for each arch is going to make anything any easier for maintainers requesting stabilization, which means those list we need more time to generate before being released. You just move the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 16.51 -0300, Alexis Ballier ha scritto: you are seriously considering patching every single package using libpng like this instead of fixing those that fail??? (and i'm not talking

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: lince and slmodem

2011-02-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Antoni Grzymala awa...@chopin.edu.pl wrote: Samuli Suominen dixit (2011-02-01, 21:09): # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (01 Feb 2011) # Masked for QA because the package has not been installable for an year now. # See

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: lince and slmodem

2011-02-01 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: You can't really expect me to take responsibility for a commit I can't test. And I don't. Maybe you did this already, but it seems like the amount of time spent masking a package could have been spent poking whoever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:31:20 +0100 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-19 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno mer, 19/01/2011 alle 21.44 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: you really need to start off discussions as here is the problem i perceive and here is a solution i think will address it.  shooting off

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 118 bugs

2010-12-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: By the way, we have a nice team of arch and herd testers - how about encouraging them to wrangle some bugs? Yeah, I just came here to say this. One certainly doesn't need to have completed the developer quizzes to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move x86/amd64 CPU extensions USE flags to a new USE_EXPAND variable

2010-12-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: [snip] I agree that this could be better. To me, most of the problems with this are due to users not knowing which of these should be set for their particular CPU. Instead of having defaults set by a profile, I'd like to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer notes in metadata.xml?

2010-11-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if we have space already, or if others would feel strongly about making space for, maintainer notes in packages'

[gentoo-dev] IUSE=minimal seems like a bad idea

2010-11-20 Thread Matt Turner
matts...@sempron /usr/portage $ egrep -l 'IUSE=.*minimal' `find -name '*.ebuild'` ^ shows lots of ebuilds with IUSE=minimal. Instead of having a minimal use flag for these packages, shouldn't we have, possibly local, use flags for whatever feature(s) the minimal flag turns off? Thanks, Matt

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