Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2006-07-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 03 July 2006 15:41, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 03:04:55PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: the entire point of these threads is to address developer concerns to that sunrise can be folded back into Gentoo Really? According to who? presumably the Sunrise guys

Re: [gentoo-dev] Test request: linux-mod support for arches with 64-bit kernel/32-bit userland

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 06:08, Robin H. Johnson wrote: - superh - 64/32 i wouldnt ever worry about this since, afaik, the sh64 port is still really developmental and no one really has hardware for end users to worry about ... plus they werent really designed to be compatible -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 03 July 2006 21:00, Robin H. Johnson wrote: If you have an ebuild with a non-standard pkg_nofetch, please ensure that you use $SRC_URI instead of $A! This is because if you have FEATURES=mirror or FEATURES=cvs, attempts to download all of the source files for digesting or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 13:07, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: perhaps i wasnt clear enough: it doesnt matter who the maintainer of gpm in Gentoo is until this is resolved upstream The upstream seems to be quite dead at the moment. No traffic goes

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 01 July 2006 02:46, Mike Frysinger wrote: well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people for the next Gentoo Council i guess i'll start off some mass nominations of random people off the top of my head who i think would do a good job ... there's

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 14:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 21:00, Robin H. Johnson wrote: If you have an ebuild with a non-standard pkg_nofetch, please ensure that you use $SRC_URI instead of $A! This is because if you have FEATURES=mirror or FEATURES=cvs, attempts

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 16:10, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 03:32:47PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sorry, i just re-read your message ... perhaps a better fix would be to not force people to download all the packages when something has fetch restrictions ? That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:43, Enrico Weigelt wrote: We should think about mechanisms to check if the service is actually running. This could also be used for frequently service checks and notification. there is no fool proof way to do this -mike pgpKkEmrK36b2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:47, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: BTW: libgpm is an fork-off from gpm, which just contains the client stuff. Maybe it will evolve to an more generic mouse library, ie. supporting other interfaces, like sysmouse directly

[gentoo-dev] arch-cruft in use.mask makes me angry

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
can someone remind me why our arch USE flags are in an opt-out system rather than opt-in ? instead of adding things like: dmi icc mmx svga ... to every non-x86 profile, why dont we mask these things in base/use.mask and then un-mask them in default-linux/x86 ? doesnt that make more sense ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] arch-cruft in use.mask makes me angry

2006-07-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 04:55, Simon Stelling wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: can someone remind me why our arch USE flags are in an opt-out system rather than opt-in ? instead of adding things like: to every non-x86 profile, why dont we mask these things in base/use.mask and then un-mask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 16:39, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 02:46:59 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people for the next Gentoo Council I nominate SpanKY, vapier and Mike Frysinger. thanks, one

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 04:31, Donnie Berkholz wrote: I really appreciate your bringing my name up. But I want to take a year to rediscover the reasons I joined Gentoo in the first place and the things I joined it to do, so I'm going to decline this for now. Maybe next time around. =) i

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 04:45, Martin Schlemmer wrote: I would like to refrain from accepting until just before the final nominees are put out, as currently my life is pretty much in flux. If possible that is. sure ... you can wait until the 31st to accept ;) -mike pgpAU0QKJ2ClD.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 14:40, Grant Goodyear wrote: Vapier wrote: [Tue Jul 04 2006, 02:04:38PM CDT] i'd also nominate g2boojum, but i kind of like his current unofficial role as honorary council adviser guy ... *Grin* I'm rather fond of that role myself, so I cheerfully accept the

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 15:27, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:58 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:43, Enrico Weigelt wrote: We should think about mechanisms to check if the service is actually running. This could also be used for frequently service

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 12:28, Alexandre Buisse wrote: Please correct me if I am wrong, but there is no point in nominating people multiple times, right? *shrug* gives a good indication of who you think is competent and/or who has the best abs (seemant does btw) -mike pgpwmfns69sHU.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
i'll be keeping track of nominations here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/council-2006-nominees.html lemme know if i missed one of you suckers yes it's very basic, when i get a min i'll guide-xml it :P -mike pgphwOfWz2WSL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 15:56, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Selective and partial backporting of patches that leads to the C++ standard library code getting broken? that patch was picked up by more than just Gentoo and then just as summarily punted -mike pgpmw8k1Bgvxk.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 15:55, Harald van Dijk wrote: I don't have a lot of trust in Gentoo's patches, as they have resulted in completely and utterly unusable ld, and (minor) data loss due to a miscompilation by Gentoo's gcc, in the past. historically i'd agree with you but i'm pretty

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:14, Harald van Dijk wrote: Gentoo's gcc with the vanilla flag isn't the official GCC. Most patches don't get appplied, but some do. Plus, gcc[vanilla] isn't a supported compiler in Gentoo. you're just griping because i forced ssp/pie regardless of USE=vanilla ...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 07:48, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:40, Donnie Berkholz wrote: How will you handle non-gcc compilers? We don't support any, to start with. this sort of closed mindedness isnt really encouraging ... plus it's kind of funny, this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 10:03, Simon Stelling wrote: c) This is not about regaining control. Currently, users who want to cross-compile are screwed and need nasty use.mask-hacks to not end up with broken binaries. The inability to provide per-package CFLAGS is a missing feature in portage,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 20:58, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 02:50, Mike Frysinger wrote: as for broken binaries, i kind of doubt that statement ... when was the last time you saw a cross-toolchain accept assembly code written for a different architecture

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 06 July 2006 20:57, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: I'm just saying that I wouldn't discard entirely a solution just because some unsupported software _might_ not work (note the conditional). I wouldn't discard a solution just because it _might_ not work on GNU/kFreeBSD; I would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 13:22, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 17:31, Martin Schlemmer wrote: As I pointed out on irc (to clarify), its still an issue even with gcc-3.4.6. Its just well enough filtered, and as Mike pointed out, they 'fixed' it in 3.4.5 via specs, and

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 12:53, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:00:09PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: If you take out the stub patches (which incidentally have no impact on code generation), many builds will simply fail because they expect the additional flags from ssp, htb

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 01:46, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 07:44:34PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:14, Harald van Dijk wrote: Gentoo's gcc with the vanilla flag isn't the official GCC. Most patches don't get appplied, but some do. Plus, gcc

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 12:18, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:20:08 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I suggest to add a CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the tree. | This should be set to sane defaults in the profiles. I.e. for x86, | it should not set CPUFLAGS at all, and on

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 17:53, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 05:12:21PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 01:46, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 07:44:34PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:14, Harald van Dijk wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 18:15, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:06:24 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The issue with this is that $feature on amd64 is not exactly the | same as $feature on x86. Would a better name be ${ARCH}_FEATURES or | somesuch? That way there would

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 07 July 2006 19:04, Harald van Dijk wrote: I hope this is specific enough: toolchain.eclass revision 1.234 (separating ssp/... from vanilla) log message: ssp/pie/htb have their own USE flags sep from vanilla, so people can utilize those when in fact the old USE=vanilla behaviour is

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 08 July 2006 02:20, Harald van Dijk wrote: I also mentioned it in a bugzilla comment, though admittedly not as a question there. (The gcc 2 bug, I think.) Bugzilla comments are safe to assume read, right? the gcc2 bug has a lot of things in there i need to review/merge so it's in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2006-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 01 July 2006 03:34, Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! we're pushing this to the 3rd due to it being a better time for some of us (blame me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux World Expo

2006-07-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 10 July 2006 14:38, Joshua Jackson wrote: So who's planning on going? Basically I'd like to know who's planning on going. I'm still undecided about it honestly, and if I go it'd only be for a few days. Its also probably a good way to find a roomate to make the cost of rooms a bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making dobin, doexe die by default and doins, doman, dodoc warn initially

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 20:26, Daniel Black wrote: there is always, not for joe blow who just wants to use Gentoo, the implementation details of portage be damned -mike pgp52zW9PEvg6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making dobin, doexe, doins, doman, dodoc die by default

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 18:12, John Myers wrote: On Wednesday 12 July 2006 14:36, Steve Dibb wrote: Well, it could happen while testing an ebuild. :) I'd be pretty ticked if I were testing Qt and I didn't realize they did change the doc files around before doing a test run. Besides

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making dobin, doexe, doins, doman, dodoc die by default

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 13:37, Stefan Schweizer wrote: SpanKY complained that he cannot set a custom die message then. But this is not needed here, since every do* command can be clearly identified by the argument and the directory it will be installed to. except for the times where the do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making procfs mount as nosuid,noexec by default

2006-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:41, Ned Ludd wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 17:45 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: The local root exploit-of-the-week would have been unable to run if our users systems had /proc mounted with nosuid and/or noexec It would be worthwhile considering making this a

Re: [gentoo-dev] 'mad' vs 'mp3' USE flags

2006-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 14 July 2006 11:09, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Friday 14 July 2006 16:43, Chris Gianelloni wrote: While it is a working solution, it isn't necessarily a sensible one. You can take over xine-lib and fix it however you prefer. As this, as well as any other idea you can

Re: [gentoo-dev] arch-cruft in use.mask makes me angry

2006-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 21:54, Mike Frysinger wrote: can someone remind me why our arch USE flags are in an opt-out system rather than opt-in ? patch attached ... no complaints, i'll merge it in a day or two :p -mike pgpkf9VkbsyOW.pgp Description: PGP signature cleanup-arch-use

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 08 July 2006 11:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:50:47 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | and i was saying in the namespaced solution you wouldnt need to | use.mask things because $ARCH_CPU_FEATURES would be set by users in | the make.conf ... if they go

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making dobin, doexe, doins, doman, dodoc die by default

2006-07-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 17 July 2006 11:14, Aron Griffis wrote: Vapier wrote: [Thu Jul 13 2006, 11:32:39PM EDT] On Wednesday 12 July 2006 13:37, Stefan Schweizer wrote: SpanKY complained that he cannot set a custom die message then. But this is not needed here, since every do* command can be clearly

Re: [gentoo-dev] arch-cruft in use.mask makes me angry

2006-07-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 15 July 2006 23:37, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 04 July 2006 21:54, Mike Frysinger wrote: can someone remind me why our arch USE flags are in an opt-out system rather than opt-in ? patch attached ... no complaints, i'll merge it in a day or two :p merged -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] viewcvs.gentoo.org

2006-07-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 17:26, Lance Albertson wrote: Curtis Napier wrote: viewcvs.gentoo.org is no more. It has been migrated to sources.gentoo.org and the links on the website have been updated. Thanks neysx and ramereth. Just to clarify... viewcvs.g.o will still work, it just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
thanks to solar and yoswink we have a xml version now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/council-2006-nominees.xml for you peeps who have yet to speak up at all, please do so in the next week, or i'll start hunting you down when i get back from China :) -mike pgpdvKQjYIPWR.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 July 2006 02:22, Tuan Van wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: thanks to solar and yoswink we have a xml version now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/council-2006-nominees.xml please update above link for rl03 and wolf31o2 ( unless he has changed his mind). snipped from -core

Re: [gentoo-dev] architectures which support Java

2006-07-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 July 2006 17:17, Joshua Nichols wrote: Could I get notice of whether or not your architecture is supporting Java? in Gentoo or in general ? in general, kaffe should support pretty much all our arches, but in Gentoo, i dont have time to get it working for: arm m68k s390 sh -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 28 July 2006 06:02, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:35:24AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: Mike asked you repeatedly to voice your issues or concerns in relation to Project Sunrise, which you failed to reply to. How many times are we supposed to raise our

Re: [gentoo-dev] langs.eclass (deprecating linguas.eclass)

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 24 July 2006 20:28, Peper wrote: Comments are welcome again :] what ebuilds would this actually be useful in ? looking through the code largely gives me the impression of over engineering and not much else -mike pgpdWFj2i5blA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 July 2006 18:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Personally I'd expect the council to block the thing permanently. hard to address any sort of concerns here, so i guess i'll just regurgitate the council log to you it's hard for users to get involved in our development process ... i imagine

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 July 2006 18:47, Stephen P. Becker wrote: There is nothing you or anyone else can say well if you're coming forth with such stout resolution of ignoring any one else's input, then there's no point in debating the topic with you now is there ? -mike pgpRLmOrTjAue.pgp Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 July 2006 22:28, Dan Meltzer wrote: 1) Users can submit patches/ideas to bugs.g.o at whatever frequency they desire, contributing to gentoo casually. load up your browser and check out how many bugs are assigned to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' opening a bug, putting together an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 July 2006 22:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:19:56 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | we take a risk with this project (like every single other | project) ... if sunrise turns out to suck and cause problems, then we | kill it, no big deal How many more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-07-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 July 2006 23:32, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: - first for my systems - are that it is allowing essentially anybody to submit almost anything with no QA. no, read the FAQ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 31 July 2006 01:53, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:38:42 -0400 Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Please note the difference between pulling and pushing. Pushing | implies that people who don't want sunrise on their systems have to | have it and have to use it. This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 31 July 2006 02:21, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: I don't have a perfect solution, no. Unfortunately, knowing why one thing won't work doesn't automatically let you know what will. and knowing what does/doesnt work comes a lot from experience, not solely making conjectures about how we

[gentoo-dev] logwatch needs love

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
i'm tired of looking at this package, anyone care about this thing enough to be its maintainer ? -mike pgpKcazDf3HyB.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] RT2X00_DEVICE USE_EXPAND

2006-08-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 10:21, Roy Marples wrote: On Wednesday 02 August 2006 15:09, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Perhaps because other options exist? I'd have suggested WIRELESS_DEVICES (or even ETHERNET_DEVICES or NET_DEVICES) instead, which would work for your case and also be applicable

Re: [gentoo-dev] atom matching behavior

2006-08-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 03 August 2006 01:44, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:07:35AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: Repost from gentoo-portage-dev[1]: Was just brought to my attention that the =* operator doesn't work as I thought, as for example =foo-1.2* matches foo-1.20 as well as

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages seeking maintainers

2006-08-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 03 August 2006 22:43, Daniel Black wrote: app-arch/sharutils not such a big deal as base-system is the fall back -mike pgpFMHbv297Me.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 09:29, Stephen P. Becker wrote: P.S. Note that we have offered various portage devs hardware and/or an account on Iluxa's ginormous Origin 2000 machine in the past with the intention of getting this fixed, and nobody has taken us up on that... so ? none of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext * tar That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider making

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 10:12, Christian Heim wrote: I went looking for the reason, looked into the eutils, multilib and finally autotools eclasses and saw that the autotools.eclass is setting the DEPEND but not the RDEPEND. IIRC portage-2.1 is now setting RDEPEND to DEPEND if nothing other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:56, Stephen P. Becker wrote: The metadata for sandbox suggests that it is under the control of the portage team, even if they lack a herd: ... because it is tightly integrated with portage ... there is the aspects of portage which require some sandbox env

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:48, Harald van Dijk wrote: Then RESTRICT=test, or use a src_test which warns on test failures rather than aborting, could be used. Or am I missing something? some architectures pass fine my [hidden] point was that globally enabling/disabling FEATURES=test isnt a

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 15:32, Zac Medico wrote: The actual fault is in libpng-1.2.12-r1.ebuild where RDEPEND= should be explicitly set. the actual fault is portage instead of half-assing all this DEPEND/RDEPEND garbage, why not fix portage to do it consistently either it implicitly sets

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 16:07, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Of course I know this, and it sucks. If sandbox is so tightly integrated with portage, then why *isn't* there a portage team member who works on sandbox? because portage requires deep knowledge in python/bash sandbox requires deep

[gentoo-dev] @MKINSTALLDIRS@ funk

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
not sure the impact of this, but i just finished fixing three packages with this issue, and the problem arises due to system packages being updated ... a recent upgrade with gettext causes some packages to fail with errors like: /bin/sh: @MKINSTALLDIRS@: No such file or directory if you hit

Re: [gentoo-dev] implicit RDEPEND

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 07 August 2006 13:36, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Sunday 06 August 2006 00:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: and i'm on the opposite side where implicit RDEPEND should be clean: Why? I for one consider explicit dependencies much more clean. i prefer to make the common behavior the default

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 07 August 2006 21:44, W.Kenworthy wrote: My personal opinion is that whilst things like modular X are good for developers, they are not so good for users - particularly gentoo users. we provide meta packages (X/kde/gnome/etc...) for the split packages so users can just emerge 1

[gentoo-dev] mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
someone remind me why our emul packages install in some obscure directory tree rooted in /emul if we moved these things to the standard lib32 dirs, it would certainly ease the pain of people doing multilib building -mike pgp0iUxwqWpVd.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] multilib curft: env.d/04multiilb

2006-08-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
why god why do we have this file ? it pollutes ld.so.conf and makes me so angry -mike pgpOFUoFK4Ze9.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
looks like your mail server ate this ... someone remind me why our emul packages install in some obscure directory tree rooted in /emul if we moved these things to the standard lib32 dirs, it would certainly ease the pain of people doing multilib building, both in and out of portage it'd also

Re: [gentoo-dev] per-package USE defaults

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 16:28, Enrico Weigelt wrote: hmm, what do you do if there's a need for arch specific defaults ? not accounted for as we really havent found this to be a big deal IMHO its better to have these defaults somewhere within the profile. Maybe another package.use alike

Re: [gentoo-dev] per-package USE defaults

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 15:18, Zac Medico wrote: Stuart Herbert wrote: Any chance of per-package USE defaults support? That's much more useful to me. Attached to bug 61732 there's a patch that implements this via a new IUSE_DEFAULTS ebuild variable. If people like that particular

Re: [gentoo-dev] per-package USE defaults

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 19:46, Jason Wever wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:57:44 +0100 Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a package maintainer, I'm happy :) Is this going to cause problems for arch teams at all? I hope not. I've been looking forward to this for arch specific

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 10:57, Duncan wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted looks like your mail server ate this ... someone remind me why our emul packages install in some obscure directory tree rooted in /emul if we moved these things to the standard lib32 dirs

[gentoo-dev] moving gen_usr_ldscript() from eutils.eclass to toolchain-funcs.eclass

2006-08-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
as the subject says, i'd like to move gen_usr_ldscript() to toolchain-funcs.elcass ... the reason for this is that i have an improvement to the function which will start writing OUTPUT_FORMAT() to ldscripts, but this requires $(tc-getCC) motivation: better multilib handling :) speak now

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 10 August 2006 15:42, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:26:10 -0500 Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Olivier Crete wrote: It makes sense that you wouldn't want these binary packages going

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 10 August 2006 19:32, Doug Goldstein wrote: Also, I can probably hit brad_mssw for you if you want. Since I work with him now. hindsight is 20/20 eh ? no point in blaming people for decisions made when at the time, said decisions were the best -mike pgp0p9SR79Nsv.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] General info

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 20 August 2006 05:35, sHadoW MaN wrote: I am never has programmed on Linux but I looked on the net about hardware interrupts library try http://forums.gentoo.org/ -mike pgpkWVRc0kd7g.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 20 August 2006 11:22, paul kölle wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 20 August 2006 08:01, paul kölle wrote: How do I get the name of the called script in /etc/init.d? Better ideas? use $SVCNAME see the sshd init.d script for some examples thanks mike, you got me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: If I may interject...

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 17 August 2006 05:20, Duncan wrote: excerpted below, on Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:01:37 -0700: I told a friend that there were some in the community who called proprietary software slaveryware. His response? Holy shit! If that term spreads, we can forget about convincing otherwise

Re: [gentoo-dev] mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 21 August 2006 10:29, Olivier Crête wrote: On Mon, 2006-21-08 at 12:21 +0100, Herbie Hopkins wrote: I've always viewed the emul libs as a temporary measure until we had full multilib fuctionality in portage. Afaik the only person working on this was eradicator who has been mia for

Re: [gentoo-dev] mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 21 August 2006 13:39, Olivier Crete wrote: Will we make emul-x86-gtk-libs block gtk+? We dont have use based deps/blockers... building for ABI is unrelated to USE flags how long will it take before we have API/arch based ones. you really think having users build ABI stuff on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-22 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 11:17, Duncan wrote: FWIW, eradicator active once again sorry, but not really active when it comes to something core like toolchain does not describe eradicator's behavior After all, there'd have never been a need for eselect-compiler if gcc-config wasn't broken re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clean out some old files in CVS

2006-08-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 24 August 2006 05:28, Lars Weiler wrote: See attached a list of Attic-files which are +500k in size. If you want to keep one of these files, tell me. Otherwise I'll remove them on Sunday. i thought the entire point of the CVS attic is that when we want to retrieve something,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 27 August 2006 04:11, Robert Cernansky wrote: On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:03:16 +0100 Luis Medinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like we have volunteers to maintain xmms for a couple of years. I offered a good solution but looks like nobody likes it. I'm still open for sugestions.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Sets

2006-08-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 10:44, Simon Stelling wrote: head -n4 $(~/.sig) ~/.sig seriously, when did this turn into the forums ? well at least he doesnt have a 640x480 animated gif in there (yet?) ... -mike pgpaBmIXK5PiT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Sets

2006-08-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 14:22, Wernfried Haas wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:41:26PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: seriously, when did this turn into the forums ? well at least he doesnt have a 640x480 animated gif in there (yet?) ... Actually there's an 80x80 px limit for avatars

[gentoo-dev] reminder: USE=static is *not* for libraries

2006-08-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
just found another broken package that uses the 'static' USE flag to control generation of static libraries (aka libfoo.a) this is very much wrong ... USE=static is only to control the static-ness of binaries ... if your package has an option to build shared and static libraries, then it had

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/bcm4400 going away

2006-08-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 11:54, Daniel Drake wrote: For this reason we are suggesting everyone migrates to the b44 in-kernel driver works great for me :) (I guess net-misc/bcm4400 doesn't really have any users anyway...). i tried it, it killed my kernel everytime :( -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] reminder: USE=static is *not* for libraries

2006-08-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 31 August 2006 13:19, Enrico Weigelt wrote: BTW: is there a way to control whether static libs should be installed ? `man make.conf` - INSTALL_MASK dont even think about filing a bug though when something breaks because it's missing static libs cause it'll just make me stab you

Re: [gentoo-dev] reminder: USE=static is *not* for libraries

2006-08-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 31 August 2006 18:53, Chris White wrote: On Thursday 31 August 2006 15:42, Doug Goldstein wrote: I just filed bug #140776 for you because I masked out all shared libraries and my system doesn't work. You only mentioned masking out static libraries so I didn't mask those out.

Re: [gentoo-dev] reminder: USE=static is *not* for libraries

2006-08-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 31 August 2006 19:41, Alec Warner wrote: He didn't say use install masked to mask out shared libraries he said use install mask to mask static libraries. looks like two people missed the short bus actually ... -mike pgpL1XLzxTYzu.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for September

2006-09-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] cdrtools license issues

2006-09-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 01 September 2006 14:26, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 02:44:59PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: As discussed here?, the author of cdrtools, J?rg Schilling, violates the GPL in his application, by building GPL software with CDDL licensed makefiles as well as linking mkisofs

Re: [gentoo-dev] cdrtools license issues

2006-09-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 01 September 2006 15:18, Chris White wrote: On Friday 01 September 2006 11:26, Greg KH wrote: No, we should just stop distributing the prebuild image in our release and live cds. We do not have to do anything with the package in portage, as it is the user who builds cdrtools that

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