Re: [gentoo-dev] FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-07 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 07/09/2008 в 02:05 +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto пишет: Our first attempt was to use a multislot use flag[1]. According to that flag, we would set the SLOT and the PREFIX for the install. That has the a very important problem - it breaks the invariancy of the SLOT and as thus been

[gentoo-dev] global USE flag overrides in metadata.xml (bug 235708)

2008-09-02 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. Is it allowed (good idea) to override global USE flags in metadata.xml? GLEP 56 in Motivation part give us such examples and media-libs/xine-lib already uses this possibility but before GLEP 56 was implemented having USE flag both in local.use.desc and use.desc was not allowed. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 21/08/2008 в 19:26 -0700, Alec Warner пишет: src_prepare is a logically distinct action (maybe if we called it src_patch it would be clearer?) We are not only patching sources there but modify them by other means too (like sed or find .. rm \{\};). So src_prepare is the name which better

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] PROPERTIES=live (instead of PROPERTIES=live-sources or RESTRICT=live)

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 23/08/2008 в 13:39 -0700, Zac Medico пишет: Please consider a PROPERTIES=live value that, when set in an ebuild, will serve to indicate that the ebuild will use some form of live source code that may vary each time that the package is installed. Does this (and previous similar threads)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for package.keywords in profiles?

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 25/08/2008 в 11:40 -0700, Zac Medico пишет: Peter Volkov wrote: It's good feature for overlays, but I think we should avoid this in portage tree as having same information in two places can be avoided in this case: it's better and not so hard to write tool which will keyword

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for package.keywords in profiles?

2008-08-25 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 17/08/2008 в 17:24 -0700, Zac Medico пишет: At least a few people have expressed a desire to have support for a package.keywords file in the profiles [1] as a means to add or subtract any number values to or from the KEYWORDS that apply to a given ebuild. It's good feature for

[gentoo-dev] media-fonts/droid licensing: should fonts include Apache license in tarball?

2008-08-19 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. There are droid fonts package in the tree. Author states that they are apache licensed [1] (supposedly similar to google's android sdk) but license itself is not included in the package (only .ttf files are there). Should we RESTRICT=mirror in such case or it's safe to drop such

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-12 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 06/08/2008 в 14:18 -0700, Robin H. Johnson пишет: Getting the bot out there - If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the channel name, and that they are the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Installation of static libraries, USE=static-libs proposal

2008-07-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 01/07/2008 в 05:05 +0300, Mart Raudsepp пишет: Over a year or two ago, it was communicated that it supposedly a policy that USE=static Well, I don't have web-reference at hand now, but there was a thread in gentoo-dev with the subject: Say no to static libraries!. Summarizing some ideas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 13/07/2008 в 23:52 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: Which part of the 'Problem' section in the GLEP didn't you understand? Do you seriously consider not being able to add or change global scope functions in future EAPIs to be a non-issue, or were you ignoring those two bullet points? I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 17/07/2008 в 04:51 +0200, Marius Mauch пишет: At dev.gentoo.org/~genone/unpack.eclass is the draft for an eclass to implement this feature. Marius, although it's possible to do this things in eclass why is eclass better? As I see portage's unpack() already has extension - program to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging or overwriting KEYWORDS from eclass

2008-06-24 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 24/06/2008 в 01:53 +0200, Robert Buchholz пишет: I've stumbled upon an inconsitency between package managers the other day [1], which was due to both an ebuild and an eclass defining inconsisting KEYWORDS. But do we allow KEYWORDS in eclasses? Why? Each package should be tested

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-06-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 21/06/2008 в 10:56 +0200, Albert Zeyer пишет: Perhaps install a script which automatically takes the CVS comment when some of these files is changed and adds this comment automatically to the ChangeLog? Some days ago Diego (flameeyes) suggested to write script which will abort commit in

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 11/06/2008 в 07:53 +0200, Luca Barbato пишет: Getting the build time from 30minutes to an hour or more? Actually I don't understand this concern. If you bother about time tests take don't build package from sources - use binary packages. If you build program by yourself - run testsuite

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-06-21 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 19/06/2008 в 21:03 +, Michael Sterrett (mr_bones_) пишет: mr_bones_08/06/19 21:03:29 Modified: package.mask Log: mask =games-kids/gcompris-8.4.5 until http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225883 is fixed up. Revision ChangesPath 1.8740

Re: [gentoo-dev] extending existing EAPI semantics

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 10/06/2008 в 21:10 -0700, Brian Harring пишет: So... someone other then ciaran have a comment? From ebuild developer point of view there is no difference if eapi is a variable of a function call. If changing eapi to a function call makes sourcing of ebuilds more sane, then it's good to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] GLEP Purpose and Guidelines

2008-06-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 17/06/2008 в 09:48 +0200, Tiziano Müller пишет: http://dev.gentoo.org/~dev-zero/glep/glep-glep.txt Your GLEP describes only two possible types: Technical and Organizational. At the same time type of your GLEP is informational. How this could be? What happens with informational GLEPs?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 11/06/2008 в 19:45 -0400, Jim Ramsay пишет: Vlastimil Babka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would prefer something that doesn't add extra lines to ebuild. I think I would disagree with you here. I think that having a special 'eblank' or 'eseparator' command is much more readable in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 14/06/2008 в 19:28 +0200, Luca Barbato пишет: I don't see disadvantages, all I wanted is a simple way to archive this: [# emaint -r ffmpeg ... # emerge ffmpeg -L ... egen ... skipped most of stuff] Your example shows that .live ebuilds fix different issue. What you are suggesting are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 15/06/2008 в 13:19 +0200, Benedikt Morbach пишет: But speaking about names of options - -A and -B are easier to remember as -A stands for above and -B for below and grep users already knew that. for grep -A means after and -B before ;) True. And still, one day I learn this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 12/06/2008 в 09:36 +0200, Markus Ullmann пишет: The PMS maintainers were withholding information on compatibility issues they've seen. As such we can't be sure this will pop up again in the future and so I strongly suggest dismissing this as something official for gentoo. Dismissing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 15/06/2008 в 15:50 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:42:28 +0400 Peter Volkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By formalizing I mean the following: call for and form PMS team. Team must represent portage developers and could paludis and pkgcore. All suggestions for PMS

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 (why use filename extension?)

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Volkov
If you need eapi in file name what are the technical reasons of putting it into file name extension? Why don't you suggest better ebuild name like: pkg-ver-eapi.ebuild or pkg-eapi-ver.ebuild ? I remember last time I've asked this genone told me that this is not backward compatible. Ok, it's not,

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 (why use filename extension?)

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 11/06/2008 в 08:34 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:25:50 +0400 Peter Volkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you need eapi in file name what are the technical reasons of putting it into file name extension? Why don't you suggest better ebuild name like: pkg-ver

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2008-06-10 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello Luis. В Пнд, 09/06/2008 в 18:12 +, Luis F. Araujo (araujo) пишет: araujo 08/06/09 18:12:09 Modified: package.mask Log: Saving Squeak. Solving bugs #163724 , #196984 Revision ChangesPath 1.8705 profiles/package.mask Whenever you

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: use.local.desc

2008-06-09 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello, Markus. В Вск, 08/06/2008 в 19:28 +, Markus Ullmann (jokey) пишет: jokey 08/06/08 19:28:19 Modified: use.local.desc Log: Rename webkitgtk to webkit-gtk Revision ChangesPath 1.3576 profiles/use.local.desc  Whenever you modify

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-31 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 30/05/2008 в 20:28 -0700, Brian Harring пишет: Either way, basically it's coming down to if gentoo wants to follow the definition of 'academic' right, or 'pragmatic' right. Exempting ciaran, vote seems to be pragmatic. Well, although I've asked about problems with having --as-needed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: qemu - add gcc-3.x dependency

2008-05-05 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 04/05/2008 в 21:48 +0200, Enrico Weigelt пишет: I'm just installing qemu, which requires gcc-3.x for building. The current breaks are very ugly, IMHO. So I'm proposing to add the old gcc-3.x as depedency to qemu, at least as long as it doesn't build w/ newer gcc. What do you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Putting edac and ipmi (and other server-related) packages in a herd

2008-04-21 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 20/04/2008 в 20:02 +0200, Tiziano Müller пишет: What do you think of putting edac and ipmi stuff (and maybe other server-related monitoring/controlling stuff) into the sysadmin herd? Alternative: Create a new herd (name?) for such tools. Actually this thread follows discussion in bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-04 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 03/04/2008 в 18:56 +0300, Petteri Räty пишет: Petteri Räty wrote: Defining required amount of activity for ebuild devs. I would like us to raise the required amount of activity for ebuild devs. I checked the current slacker script and it checks for having at least one commit in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/iproute2: ChangeLog iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild

2008-03-31 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 31/03/2008 в 06:21 +, Duncan пишет: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:39:14 -0400: there is no package-manager specificness here. it's already completely doable from a user perspective, just having it in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-10 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 10/03/2008 в 06:12 +0100, Natanael Copa пишет: Took me weeks to complete the quiz. I want to help, yes, but I do have a life. What were the problems? Do you think that knowledge of answers to the questions asked in quiz are not required to do actual work on ebuilds in the tree? What were

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-10 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 10/03/2008 в 04:13 -0800, Alec Warner пишет: On 3/10/08, Peter Volkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: В Пнд, 10/03/2008 в 06:12 +0100, Natanael Copa пишет: It's documented? It is mentioned in some places on website but no, it's not documented as I see. It is one of many of my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 01/03/2008 в 14:39 +, Peter Weller пишет: There are also a number of problems with people on the team who are there soley so that they don't have to ask the team to mark a package stable for them - they can just go and stable it themselves. It'll be even better if we prohibit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keyword request interface (SoC candidate?)

2008-02-29 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 28/02/2008 в 21:49 -0500, Richard Freeman пишет: Santiago M. Mola wrote: What do you think about? Would it be easy to integrate it with packages.g.o or should it belong somewhere else? Do you think this is a suitable project for SoC? I like the idea, although it is a bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings

2008-02-16 Thread Peter Volkov
Oleg, please, do not top post. В Сбт, 16/02/2008 в 15:16 +0600, Oleg Puchinin пишет: One hundred programmers which only also do that dig in mountain bugs a kind new package , it, in my opinion, how to use a steam hammer to crack nuts. Can it is necessary to make the processes occuring in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] global useflags

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 13/02/2008 в 21:38 +0100, Markus Meier пишет: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:13:09 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: css: Enables ripping of encrypted DVDs Are we sure that nothing intends css as Cascading Style Sheet? app-cdr/k3b:css - Enables ripping of

Re: [gentoo-dev] clean deprecated eclasses(?) (was: missing quotes in eclasses)

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 14/02/2008 в 02:10 +0200, Mart Raudsepp пишет: On K, 2008-02-13 at 15:49 -0500, Doug Klima wrote: deprecated eclasses:64-bit, darcs, db4-fix, debian, embassy-2.10, embassy-2.9, gcc, gnustep-old, gtk-engines, gtk-engines2, inherit, jakarta-commons, java-pkg, java-utils,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] global useflags

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 14/02/2008 в 11:33 +0100, Wulf C. Krueger пишет: Which *actual* packages would benefit from changing the current css USE flag to something different? Of course, I'm not talking about benefit for packages but about benefit for users (me included). Technically we could name USE-flags using

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 13/02/2008 в 13:22 +0100, Matthias Schwarzott пишет: How can I use PATCHES without quoting issues? default is this (when not using relative pathes): PATCHES=${FILESDIR}/p1.diff ${FILESDIR}/p2.diff You can not. This should be fixed like we did for font.eclass (bug 201834). BTW,

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-16 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 14/01/2008 в 02:10 +0200, Petteri Räty пишет: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Sunday 13 January 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Peter Volkov kirjoitti: Also why not just do package move for libdts to avoid manual unmerge libdts? Package moves don't work very well if you move an existing

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite media-libs/libdts

2008-01-16 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 16/01/2008 в 06:09 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: if two packages provide the same binary and they blocked each other, a move would be doable as it would be impossible for the two packages to be installed simultaneously. but as Petteri points out, libdca/libdts dont provide the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 09/01/2008 в 13:13 +0100, Fernando J. Pereda пишет: Why taking it against arch teams? How is that different from certain maintainer not taking care of a bug that holds stabilization of certain package by some time measured in months ? I'll tell you my answer: 'no difference at all'.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI inside ebuild filename (.EAPI-ebuild of different?)

2007-12-20 Thread Peter Volkov
While it's may be a good idea to set EAPI inside filename and if we ever decide on this, consider different implementation. I really dislike idea of EAPI-suffixed extensions. It's easier for me (and I think for others too) to differentiate ebuilds between other files in directory when ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to pass list of paths to eclass?

2007-12-13 Thread Peter Volkov
Thank you all, for your responds. Currently I see that the best approach is arrays. They provide required functionality, clear syntax and easy upgrade path. Speaking about the latter it is: 1. Modify eclass to use arrays: for conffile in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do ... done 2. Modify ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to pass list of paths to eclass?

2007-12-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 13/12/2007 в 09:41 +, Roy Marples пишет: On Thursday 13 December 2007 09:18:45 Peter Volkov wrote: use arrays. Why not use a function in pkg_setup as suggested earlier Because this is more code for the same functionality. Also if at one point somebody decides to add

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How to pass list of paths to eclass?

2007-12-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 13/12/2007 в 10:52 +, Steve Long пишет: Peter Volkov wrote: Speaking about the latter it is: 1. Modify eclass to use arrays: for conffile in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do ... done 2. Modify ebuilds to use arrays. -FONT_CONF=path1 path2 +FONT_CONF=( path1 path2

[gentoo-dev] How to pass list of paths to eclass?

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. Some eclasses (kernel-2, font) use variable to pass space separated PATH to patch or fontconfig files from ebuild to eclass. In ebuild we use: FONT_CONF=path1 path2 Then eclasses use the variable: for conffile in ${FONT_CONF}; do ... done The problem with this doesn't work if

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to pass list of paths to eclass?

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 11/12/2007 в 10:38 +, Roy Marples пишет: FONT_CONF=path1:path2 IFS=. IIUC should be IFS=: for for conffile in ${FONT_CONF}; do done unset IFS That way you work the same way as the classic $PATH variable. But this seems to fail if we have ':' inside path{1,2}. Is that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-irc/inspircd: ChangeLog inspircd-1.1.14.ebuild

2007-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 12/11/2007 в 18:20 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет: On 00:03 Tue 13 Nov , Michael Hanselmann wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:09:33PM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 21:47 Mon 12 Nov , Michael Hanselmann (hansmi) wrote: pkg_postinst() { chown -R

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-firewall/ipset: ChangeLog metadata.xml ipset-2.3.0.20070828.ebuild

2007-11-07 Thread Peter Volkov
On Mon, 05/11/2007 в 10:03 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 14:23 Mon 05 Nov , Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: 1.1 net-firewall/ipset/ipset-2.3.0.20070828.ebuild src_defs() { # these are used in both of src_compile and src_install myconf=${myconf} PREFIX

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-libs/libpcap: ChangeLog libpcap-0.9.8.ebuild libpcap-0.9.4.ebuild

2007-11-04 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 09/10/2007 в 12:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz пишет: On 17:57 Tue 09 Oct , Markus Ullmann (jokey) wrote: 1.1 net-libs/libpcap/libpcap-0.9.8.ebuild DEPEND=!virtual/libpcap PROVIDE=virtual/libpcap Does this still work properly with some of the new portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] striping blank lines (was: stripping out the DO NOT REPLY from bugzie emails)

2007-10-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 29/09/2007 в 07:05 -0400, Mike Frysinger пишет: when comments get added, there are 5 blank lines between the bugzilla URI's and the start of actual content ... This can be workarouned with another .procmailrc rule: # Strip out excess empty lines :0 Hfw * ^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | awk

Re: [gentoo-dev] striping blank lines (was: stripping out the DO NOT REPLY from bugzie emails)

2007-10-22 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 22/10/2007 в 19:21 +0200, Elias Probst пишет: To delete empty lines with sed, just do a sed '/^$/d' I hope that's what you're looking for. No. awk command in the previous mail substituted 2 or more empty lines with exactly one empty line. Your command makes mail less readable. --

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-base/xorg-x11: xorg-x11-7.2.ebuild xorg-x11-7.3.ebuild ChangeLog

2007-10-09 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 09/10/2007 в 07:43 +, Donnie Berkholz (dberkholz) пишет: dberkholz07/10/09 07:43:50 Modified: xorg-x11-7.2.ebuild xorg-x11-7.3.ebuild ChangeLog Log: Fix quoting issues caught by latest repoman. Revision ChangesPath 1.14

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-dotnet/libgdiplus: ChangeLog libgdiplus-1.2.5-r1.ebuild

2007-09-24 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 24/09/2007 в 12:56 -0700, Donnie Berkholz пишет: if use ppc ; then sed -i -e 's:-Werror::g' src/Makefile fi We should never leave -Werror in -- make this unconditional. never is too strong: for example, wireshark's upstream told me that they want code to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-17 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 17/08/2007 в 13:18 -0700, Donnie Berkholz пишет: On 13:40 Fri 17 Aug , Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 17 August 2007, Hans de Graaff wrote: Unfortunately FEATURES=stricter stopped being really useful i can make it more selective about which ones actually die ... Would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] About to retire

2007-07-16 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 16/07/2007 в 10:50 -0700, Ned Ludd пишет: net-firewall/ebtables net-misc/netkit-telnetd taken. base-system, are there any objections if I add you as the herd? related applications like iptables and other netkit-* apps belongs to your herd... net-firewall/arptables and if I manage

Re: [gentoo-dev] /{, usr/}bin path changed. What is the right solution for scripts?

2007-04-02 Thread Peter Volkov
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 16:21 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: env not being in /usr/bin will break an awful lot of stuff. It's listed in many textbooks as being the safe way of doing things. On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 08:46 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: However using env really only makes sense in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] /{,usr/}bin path changed. What is the right solution for scripts?

2007-04-01 Thread Peter Volkov
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 00:01 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: One idea that comes to mind is /usr/bin/env $bin And here we return to the problem that one day /usr/bin/env, could become /bin/env... Or that /usr/ sometimes is not mounted during boot. Thus, well. Seems that have sane PATH in the

[gentoo-dev] /{,usr/}bin path changed. What is the right solution for scripts?

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Volkov
Hello. Path of some utilities in coreutils-6.7-r1 changed from /usr/bin to /bin and vice versa. This cause some scripts became broken as they relied on the full path to executable. The question is: does there exist best practice on how to avoid this problem in future? Should we set some default

[gentoo-dev] net-im/sim contains icons/sounds in source tarball with unclear licensing.

2007-03-26 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
Hello. I found the following bug in debian bugzilla: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=386570 Is this an issue for gentoo? Should I repackage tarball(/convince upstream to repackage) and exclude this icons sounds from tarball? Or may be RESTRICT fetch it enough to solve the

[gentoo-dev] Resolve build time default editor dependency. (was: How get ebuild provider virtual/category.)

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
Hello. Anatoly raised really important concern and currently I've started to think about fix. One possible solution requires virtual/editor to suite glep 37 and thus affects many packages. So... wondering why this change was not done I'd like to discuss the problem on the list. Problem: There

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolve build time default editor dependency. (was: How get ebuild provider virtual/category.)

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On 2006-11-12 at 04:34 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: why not modify sudo to not filter the EDITOR env var then there is no more problem Considering that this is the only situation where environment is dropped... yes this fixes sudo problem. The other possible solution is: #!/bin/bash export

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolve build time default editor dependency. (was: How get ebuild provider virtual/category.)

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 05:26 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: then we end up with having to maintain a list of safe EDITORs and dealing with people who want to edit their own favorite editor the sudo file has the ability to specify editor's, so why not tell people to change their sudo config file

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolve build time default editor dependency. (was: How get ebuild provider virtual/category.)

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 05:54 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: in the example usages you cited, people where using `sudo` to just avoid running `su -` first ... in other words, their sudo was unlimited ... updating the sudoers file to allow EDITOR via env_keep would work fine for them in that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolve build time default editor dependency. (was: How get ebuild provider virtual/category.)

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 11:06 +, Tavis Ormandy wrote: You can set `Defaults env_keep=EDITOR` in your sudoers file if you want, or what I do is `Defaults:%wheel !env_reset`, to allow users in group wheel to use sudo without the environment being scrubbed. Of course I know about that. And I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolve build time default editor dependency. (was: How get ebuild provider virtual/category.)

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 12:15 +, Tavis Ormandy wrote: The only `hardcoded` editor is the fallback editor for visudo And this is the problem I'm talking about. I do not see any reasons to keep this not working fallback. There are parts of code that just do not work in Gentoo. which can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Anonymous CVS and SVN now available

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On behalf of Russian translators team members I'd like to say thank you for your work guys! This greatly simplifies translators work to translate and keep translations updated. This also allows to create Russian website synchronized with gentoo.org also with Russian specific additions. Thank you

Re: [gentoo-dev] How get ebuild provider virtual/category.

2006-11-09 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On 2006-11-10 at 12:24 +0500, Anatoly Shipitsin wrote: It's app-admin/sudo and sys-process/fcron. This packages use virtual/editor but by default set nano as default editor. I'm don't know how get provider category virtual/editor. But equery view it as first package. Any ideas ? Please,

[gentoo-dev] linking with ld or gcc?

2006-11-05 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
Hello. Short question: What shall we use to link libraries/programs: gcc or ld? Why? A bit longer story: I have a problem during linking of wepattack on amd64 systems. Linking stage issues warning: $ x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-ld -o wepattack wepattack.o rc4.o wepfilter.o log.o modes.o misc.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] fixing up portage implicit RDEPEND behavior

2006-11-03 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On 2006-11-03 at 00:43 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: Also, some ebuilds will loose some implicit RDEPEND that they current get from eclasses. Why? I suppose more logical solution is to adjoin DEPEND from ebuild and RDEPEND from eclass. Peter. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

[gentoo-dev] How to move packages?

2006-10-26 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
Hello. One of packages I maintain changed its name. What shall be done, so users of the package were aware about package name change and upgraded flawlessly? Thank you, Peter. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-13 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On 2006-09-11 at 20:30 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * If no existing file with the intended target name exists, or if the existing file has identical content to the file to be installed, the file to be installed is installed as normal. Just one poor

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] i18n project

2006-06-11 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Вск, 2006-06-11 at 02:16 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:11:50 +0200 Jan Kundrát [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b) Localization of Gentoo-developed applications (portage, gentoolkit,...) including their manpages I don't really like this one. Documentation, sure, but for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-08 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Чтв, 2006-06-08 at 21:20 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: It's not a normal overlay as I see it. You've promoted it to be an official overlay. The difference is huge in my opinion. IMO such overlay should be official! Why not to keep all (partially) broken ebuilds in one place? This is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-08 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Чтв, 2006-06-08 at 21:20 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: It's not a normal overlay as I see it. You've promoted it to be an official overlay. The difference is huge in my opinion. IMO such overlay should be official! Why not to keep all (partially) broken ebuilds in one place? This is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-06 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Втр, 2006-06-06 at 00:17 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: That's why we use a SCM for managing the ebuilds: the removed ebuilds are still found via cvs commands and on sources.gentoo.org But how can I search for removed ebuild in cvs? Is there any quick way for such things? Peter.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Срд, 2006-01-25 at 20:57 +0100, Grobian wrote: Are there any objections to removing csh from the tree? If there are no problems with csh removal before Feb 1st 2006, then I will starting from that date work on getting csh removed by masking it, blocking tcsh and csh, and request for

Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLogs and rsync time

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Вск, 2006-01-01 at 21:35 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote: We have currently 10371 ChangeLog files, 25 MB totally . 1365 == 13% with size = 4096 B, 12 MB totally rsync from emerge --sync has --whole-file between its options, that mean transfer the whole file if changed. 2) rotate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

2005-09-19 Thread Peter Volkov Alexandrovich
Hello. On Пнд, 2005-09-19 at 20:24 +0900, Chris White wrote: I think the problem here isn't about choice, but support. Mainly deprication is the issue here. GTK2 was meant to be an upgrade of GTK1 interfaces. At some point upstream is going to have to giveup and say Sorry sam, use gtk2

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