the parent directories): .git*
> GOGC=off go install -ldflags "-X main.version="
> make: Leaving directory
> '/tmp/portage/net-proxy/fabio-1.5.2/work/fabio-1.5.2/src/github.com/fabiolb/fabio
> <http://github.com/fabiolb/fabio>'
>>>> Source compiled.
>
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; also serves as that is what wayland and X11 have in
common. It's a long unwieldy name and the "-" might trip over hidden
naming assumptions.
Given a vote, I'd vote for "xui".
Second choice is to stick with "x11-" as it will take a very long time
for all users to forget what x11 is and how wayland relates
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eople as worthless
nuisances.
You are annoyed by someone or something, that much has been obvious for
a long time now. I can assure you, Walter is not the correct target for
your annoyance. Please deal with the correct source.
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ngineering miracle or sheer hard work.
I think William has a point; sometimes making a criteria a negative one
result in a lot less work. A good survey usually gives numbers that let
you tell if it will.
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On 30/01/2017 01:04, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 01/29/2017 05:30 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> Good catch with symlinks.
>> I don't see the point about hardlinks, they are just files with 2
>> dentries. When find gets to the second one it's already changed, so no
&
On 30/01/2017 00:20, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 01/29/2017 05:07 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> Sure it can be done, just don't chown -R ~user. DO it the VERY
>> long way round, file by file. Say you changed user "awesome" uid 300 to 400:
>>
&
On 29/01/2017 19:05, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 01/29/2017 03:26 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone think of an upgrade path for fixed UIDs? That issue aside, I
>>> may have convinced myself that fixed UIDs are better.
>>
>> The general proce
ost other
Gentoo things out there.
If the user already exists, it's presumably because the sysadmin wants
it that way or it was installed that way from an older ebuild. Either
way the ebuild cannot mess around with that. It could output an elog
saying the uid/gid doesn't match the new Gentoo norm, and provide the
commands to run to bring things into line (usermod, groupmod, find /
-user -exec chown, etc, etc)
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ybooks and user
account deployers than I care to recall; I've never run into this
problem that I couldn't solve trivially - usually by just knowing the
username|groupname and looking up the corresponding uid/gid. Really,
it's just data mapping and we have tools to do the lookup real fast.
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the
second doesn't logically follow from the first and it doesn't seem like
an example of the first either.
I suggest an intro para along the lines of
"This version of openrc introduces two changes"
and then number the paras following
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ge. Realizing there
are other things out there is part of the learning process.
But, despite all that, Java is not special. It should run on Gentoo for
anyone who wants it, just like things starting with P.
You volunteering to do the grunt work?
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niche market where uni students do "clustering" - whatever that is.
The interesting apps out there are mostly running python, go and
(sometimes) lua. And that's what I observe in my day job -
business/mobile ISP.
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On 05/07/2016 21:53, james wrote:
* If you don't know the last commit before removal, juts load up the
removal commit and copy the commit hash of the "Parent" link to get the
commit before that
Tada! Attic restored ^_~
Not bad, at first glance. Not too bad at all! Let me work with this a bit.
>
> So I would ask (beg if necessary) the kind folks that are the gentoo
> devs to figure out a way to archive those old codes, and document how to
> retrieve them, via github, as the attic too is probably like sunrise and
> such, headed towards deprecation and the chopping block.
s/github/git/g
Big difference. Gentoo's tree is not hosted on github, and infra isn't
going to put an attic equivalent there.
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On 03/06/2016 23:33, Nick Vinson wrote:
> USE="gtk" is a dependency.
No. It is a feature. However, it is a feature named after the
dependencies needed to enable it. If a package has a hard dependency on
libgtk, a USE flag would not be added, but a soft dependency on libgtk
means that libgtk
On 03/06/2016 21:34, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:35:45AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote
USE=gui is about building the graphical user interface that an
application offers, when it is optional. That's it. What
dependencies that means and so on have nothing to do with
u want it,
as you do, you get to do it yourself. While it still works, grat. When
it stops working, you fix it.
He did not say, as you imply, that it cannot work right now.
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erstand all the historical arguments but I don't
think they matter too much these days anymore as times and OSes do change.
I feel that the / vs /usr split is rather pointless on modern systems,
but I do like the bin vs sbin split because it makes my life easier
(which is the entire point of any env var
s
only affects mounts with "_netdev" listed under options in /etc/fstab.
Such systems should use "noauto" and/or "nofail" as described above.
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ond release of the package, so it succeeds the first
> # version.
> VERSION_SUCCEEDS="insaneversionspec2"
> ...
> EOF ---
>
> Obviously, the downside of this scheme is that you have to load and
> parse ever
" as a way to avoid having to deal with murky real-life
corner cases is just flat out wrong. And those murky corner cases exist,
they always will and are the things that separate real life from
theoretical ideals.
gtk2 exists and is in use. I see no plans to deprecate it globally, so
those w
On 13/08/2015 00:21, James Le Cuirot wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 00:11:45 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/08/2015 23:29, James Le Cuirot wrote:
Mike Frysinger vapier at gentoo.org writes:
On 10 Aug 2015 09:17, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2015-08-10, o godz. 02:42:21
be in /var/portage, and the user's overlay has
no business being under main tree itself
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-none scenario.
I say stick with reasonable defaults, and for better or worse, that
includes use highest version in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS unless user says otherwise
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for the general
case. I also don't want to have to keep going back to use.desc because
it's not obvious what the flag probably does.
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/, it might as well be
/etc/fstab...
There's very little useless cruft in that file
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of portage's versions and your
mods. Finally, reboot.
This whole last step must also happen after reboot, so make it a custom
init script in an appropriate runlevel where you can launch it as needed
during upgrade and reboot.
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it
will really work.
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 02:22:40 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Alan McKinnon posted on Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:00:57 +0200 as excerpted:
Why are you messing around with the profile anyway, when all the
available documentation in many many places tells you to set your
chosen USE
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:23:03 +0600 (NOVT)
gro...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello *,
dev-lisp/ecls-15.2.21 does not compiled with USE=cpu_flags_x86_sse.
So, I've added the line
=dev-lisp/ecls-15.2.21 cpu_flags_x86_sse
to .../profiles/base/package.use.mask. But I still see
dns ~ # emerge -pv
correctly.
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better than having to deal with the
existing method forever. Plus, user bug reports will never stop.
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with them, etc, etc.
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genkernel users and those who make
menuconfig (100% unscientific survey taken from my brain and nowhere else)
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once a year.
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On 08/08/2014 15:32, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
If no such USE flag, what about stabilize
gentoo with STABILIZED flag implementation in make.conf?
Next time, please bother the gentoo-user@ mailing list.
No, please don't.
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very
different, and a news item gives them the info they need.
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points from user for
caring)
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On 04/06/2014 00:32, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:24:11 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
The point is, human communication is vastly more powerful
+1
It might not be clear in the moment, because it looks like a ton of
bikeshedding and other ways some
or Gnome or whatever
looks exactly like an inherited class plus interfaces problem. Which is
what mix-ins do :-)
So once again - mixins, an awesome idea
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On 24/03/2014 02:43, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 23:47:22 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Tags work best when they describe narrow, clearly defined attributes,
and the thing they are applied to can have one, two or more of these
attributes or sometimes even
and the things to be described go through a
defined process first before making it into the list. this concept is
not present in the GLEP as currently written.
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in years, my thumb suck guess is 3 years
after a given EAPI is finally obsoleted.
As a real example - I know someone who proudly shows off a Gentoo host
with a 2004 profile. Can he reasonably expect portage to still work
flawlessly 10 years later? I feel no, luckily he agrees with me.
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On 10/02/2014 22:56, Alec Warner wrote:
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/02/2014 18:05, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
Removing support for it from a package manager should of course
happen much later
for supporting everything out there. But so
what? If slow_arch_X is stuck on some old version of an @system package,
who cares? It's not like portage will pick it for an amd64 box. An old
ebuild is a file, it sits next to 178,477 files and does no harm, it
only gets used on hardware that needs it.
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, we both know this. How does QA propose to curb that
downside?
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I've seen so far.
Revoking access is a human problem and is solved with human solutions.
Do beware the law of unintended side-effects.
On 01/21/14 16:56, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:09:46 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking as someone who had this power
whatsoever, then QA should make a well-thought out
case to that other body for decision. Anything else is madness and open
invitation for it to all go south.
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On 18/01/2014 09:49, Alec Warner wrote:
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/01/2014 09:04, Patrick Lauer wrote:
which could link to the
infra page would be good here perhaps, so when an outage
minutes is perfectly acceptable IMHO
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to trust them to do the right
thing.
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On 16/01/2014 20:26, Peter Stuge wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Respecting bug priority feels like that corporate BS I have to put up
with every day.
Gentoo is incorporated so maybe that fits. ;)
On a more serious note, please try to understand what I meant rather
than just what I wrote
.
How much work is it to get native support for LINGUAS into all ebuilds?
That would be the intuitive place considering there is already USE flags
for LINGUAS.
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On 11/01/2014 18:52, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 18:15:09
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com napisał(a):
A far better method from a user point of view is to install the linguas
the user explicitly asked for. Your proposal as worded will be taken at
first glance to mean
possible to have a very verbose, and meaningless, description. be
verbose by all means if the verbosity carries useful information
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On 16/12/2013 22:17, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 12/16/2013 01:21 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Enable use of the SSSE3 instruction set (NOT sse3). This is needed by
projects which contain assembly code or which use certain compiler
intrinsics. It is not a replacement for CFLAGS and friends
a simple matter for them to disable it.
The default install doesn't need to have a network provider with all the
bells and whistles, netifrc is perfectly adequate (especially if dhcp is
enabled as it always was for years)
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, only at least one that will work. If the user decides to make other
versions available to his system by whatever means, then portage can
deal with it by and large transparently.
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the cost of my troubleshooting time is more than the cost of cpu
cycles over a weekend.
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, but just to alert folk that something is coming down the wire and
a short description of what it's trying to achieve. Most folks are
naturally suspicious of anything that alters their python setup.
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to update gentoo, is there?
It's always been emerge -avuND world
I personally got used to -uaNDv and I don't even know what exactly is
the difference and it's implications between that and just -uD
the difference is -N, it's in man emerge
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On 03/11/2013 12:53, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2013-11-03, o godz. 10:53:13
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com napisał(a):
One set of questions that were never answered and probably do deserve
some kind of notification:
I can help you with these. However, I don't know on how much
configurations, and this
is a trend likely to grow worse.
if you add
For more info, see insert detailed wiki doc URL here
after that paragraph, most users can have their questions answered in
the simplest way possible.
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?
Not that I'm opposite to delete the dep of old prehistoric version of
enlightenment, but I just can't get, why do you think that upstream is
dead...
enlightenment is not dead, edb is. It was replaced with eet years ago.
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colorized text on my terminal, but I do believe we ought to
keep defaults sane - the minimum that could possibly work. Everything
extra should be optional
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On 03/09/2013 23:00, Magnus Granberg wrote:
tisdag 03 september 2013 22.41.14 skrev Alan McKinnon:
I *do* like colorized text on my terminal, but I do believe we ought to
keep defaults sane - the minimum that could possibly work. Everything
extra should be optional
What about NOCOLOR
On 03/09/2013 23:03, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
The solution is obvious - default to writing plain text to log files and
give the user an option to enable escapes in the log if {s,}he chooses
to have it. This does mean you
On 20/08/2013 22:25, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:00:52 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
As a long time user and citizen of -user I can tell you what the
general feeling of arch vs ~arch there is:
Thanks for jumping into the discussion.
arch has plenty
high. Our
targeted userbase is somewhat unique in the world.
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to consider?
[snip]
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,
but certainly colloquially.
Why not just keep the name net and leave other newer systems to come
up with their own names?
I do agree that modifiers old and new are bad ideas - they come
about because of the environment and no the software itself.
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is redundant - perhaps the
protest is more about that and the unfamiliar wording than anything else.
I read it as an announcement of a new major version, and nothing more
than that.
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help us!
Long-time Gentoo user, not a dev ;-)
I've been looking for a way to contribute back to Gentoo for a while,
this might be a nice easy way to get going. And I get to use perl
packages a lot at work.
Would you be OK with a proxy-maintainer?
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choice is
possible. And no-one ever said having choices means your exact personal
preferences wrt every little thing will be baked in.
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goes south when AD/Kerberos enters the mix.
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:19:52 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 12/19/2012 02:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:56:44 +0100
Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote:
Just mv /usr/portage /var/portage ? FFS no. Among other things, as
many said before
MAKEOPTS, and let 'er rip.
My local is probably years out of date. Serves me right for not
reading 50 screens of man page with every new host :-)
This sub-thread is probably just noise, sorry for that.
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so they
will never notice that the game ebuild is not in stable
alan
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