[gentoo-dev] last rites for net-dialup/gigaset-isdn

2006-11-18 Thread Alin Nastac
I've masked net-dialup/gigaset-isdn for the following reasons: - base and M105 driver are part of the standard kernel since 2.6.17 - frontend tools current version != current driver version, which means it should be splitted in 2 packages - frontend tools are experimental I will remove it in

[gentoo-dev] last rites for net-proxy/dansguardian-dgav

2006-11-16 Thread Alin Nastac
I've masked dgav and I will remove it from the tree in about a month. The new version of dansguardian (net-proxy/dansguardian-2.9) has a better anti-virus support hence making dgav hack obsolete. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-14 Thread Alin Nastac
Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: We (gnome) are not going to maintain gtk+-1. We would very much prefer it get removed. If some other person or group wants to maintain it, I guess it's fine with me; it will only cause Jakub and company headaches for re-assigning all the bugs that mistakenly get

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-11 Thread Alin Nastac
Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Friday 10 November 2006 16:28, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 08:56 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: Ok, the list definitely isn't accurate. If there is a legitimate reason to mask sylpheed-claws-1.x you also have to mask it's reverse deps. However

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-08 Thread Alin Nastac
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Wednesday 08 November 2006 21:01, Kurt Lieber wrote: So, in other words, spammers aren't abusing anything related to SPF. They're sending mail using forged return-paths and SPF is highlighting that. Which is exactly what SPF is designed to do. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-08 Thread Alin Nastac
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Of course, MUAs such as Thunderbird don't give you the possibility to set that and it will be the same as your From address. Shouldn't be your provider's mail server to set it? Both of my SSL-enabled mail servers, that are authenticated (GMail and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Alin Nastac
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Kurt didn't back up his views back then. Rather typically, he just told Method that he disagreed and that he wasn't going to budge no matter what anyone said... In the year 2005, the only gentoo-core discussion related to SPF was between me and lcars. Probably you are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Alin Nastac
Lance Albertson wrote: I'm sorry, but when people automatically want to go to the council first and ask questions later I have a hard time wanting to help them. I can't control what Kurt does/says so that's out of my control. For the record, I've asked the council first because I thought it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-06 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 06 November 2006 17:09, Alin Nastac wrote: I re-stated my case in comment #14 most of your dislike for SPF centers around the idea you dont want to send mail via gentoo.org mail servers ... is this really a problem ? seems like it's pretty trivial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. I have a problem with our current SPF record. I wanna see a +all in this record for 2 reasons: a) SPF is really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: that's nice, but again, why arent these being directed to infra ? It could be considered as organization policy, so I assumed council had to be involved in this decision. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 05 November 2006 05:39, Alin Nastac wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: that's nice, but again, why arent these being directed to infra ? It could be considered as organization policy, so I assumed council had to be involved in this decision

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 05 November 2006 07:36, Jakub Moc wrote: I'd like to resubmit it to the council... :/ not until it pans out with infra Now would be a good time to bring the problem before the council? It has been permanently closed as WONTFIX by klieber (our SMTP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 05 November 2006 10:00, Alin Nastac wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 05 November 2006 07:36, Jakub Moc wrote: I'd like to resubmit it to the council... :/ not until it pans out with infra Now would be a good time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2006-11-04 Thread Alin Nastac
Jon Portnoy wrote: I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop. Sad to see another one of us throwing the towel, but I guess this is just life. People came, people go... Thanks for all the things you have done,

[gentoo-dev] SPF at g.o

2006-10-26 Thread Alin Nastac
Facts: a) current SPF TXT record of our domain is v=spf1 mx ptr ?all b) I use my own MTA to send my @g.o messages. c) Probably I am not the only one who does that I've just evaluated SPF support in spamassassin and I've discovered that SPF_NEUTRAL has a big fat score of 1.1. I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove my address

2006-10-25 Thread Alin Nastac
David Shakaryan wrote: George Prowse wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:53, Drake Wyrm wrote: I think someone is yanking your chain, vapier. i doubt it ... other people on irc mentioned receiving said e-mail as well Haven't seen

[gentoo-dev] implicit vs explicit dependencies

2006-10-23 Thread Alin Nastac
Up till now, I relied on implicit dependencies (dependencies of my dependencies). Apparently now (see https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152534) we should add every atom that an ebuild depends on to (R)DEPEND. Which is the right way? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GeNUS : how I currently manage my gentoo network (200+ machines)

2006-10-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Hubert Mercier wrote: Since this work saved me a lot of work / time / money in the past two years, I thought maybe it could help others. Just let me know if we could do something with this, if it sounds usefull/less to you, etc... Sounds pretty useful to me :-P signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] amd64 and ia64 keywords

2006-10-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't amd64 and ia64 architectures nearly the same? Beside 3dnow/sse instruction sets of course. If so, shouldn't we have the same kewords (amd64 ia64, ~amd64 ~ia64 or none) on every package that don't use 3dnow/sse instructions? I only ask this because I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] amd64 and ia64 keywords

2006-10-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: my guess is you're confusing EM64T and IA64 ... in that case, people with EM64T cpu's use the amd64 KEYWORD yeah, I confused those 2 arches :-[ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Natanael Copa wrote: Nobody has ever showed interest and I'm not pushing my services on anyone. Why exactly you don't want to become a Gentoo dev? The whole proxy maintainer thing is a bunch of crap. The Gentoo developer will still be expected to be responsible of his/her commits, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Natanael Copa wrote: Because of gentoo devs always seems to fight? You don't have to fight. Its funny, I use gentoo much more that FreeBSD, I'm a freebsd port maintainer, but nothing for Gentoo (well, im an active bugreporter...) When I submit a fix/version bumb (I submit as maintainer

[gentoo-dev] How default route should be set by pppd

2006-09-30 Thread Alin Nastac
Hi fellow devs, I discovered that ppp-2.4.4 set a default route without a gateway. It is totally fine from IP routing point of view (the simple fact that route is through the point-to-point link is enough to know the next hop), except that openswan's %defaultroute need a default gateway in order

Re: [gentoo-dev] How default route should be set by pppd

2006-09-30 Thread Alin Nastac
Roy Marples wrote: So how does that look in the routing table? default dev ppp0 scope link instead default via a.b.c.d dev ppp0. If say a DHCP client renewed it's lease and it set a new default route, would this have any effect? I guess a DHCP client would override the default route

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-23 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 21 September 2006 13:15, Alin Nastac wrote: Unless you save the specific compatibility version of the net-dialup/ppp used by net-dialup/pptpd for building the package, I don't see how can it help me. Judging after /var/db/pkg content, I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-22 Thread Alin Nastac
Dice R. Random wrote: What control mechanisms are there within the Gentoo community to keep a few bad apples from spoiling the whole barrel, as it were? I do not wish to name any names, but it seems to me from having skimmed this list for the past few years that there are a couple people who

[gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Alin Nastac
I'm annoyed about impossibility to fix a certain class of breakages (other than reemerging the failing package). I am referring to the breakages occurred when foo has been upgraded, but the bar package cannot work with it because it was build against the old foo version. We all had to run

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Luca Barbato wrote: Alin Nastac wrote: I reckon this could be solved by yet another *DEPEND variable. The only atoms accepted by this variable would be CATEGORY/PN. Every time when a package gets updated from PV1 to PV2 (distinct versions, revisions will not count), portage will automatically

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Brian Harring wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 01:38:59PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: There is one flaw with this though; packages can provide both libraries _and_ binaries. Our dependencies don't represent whether the dep is actual linkage, or just commandline consuming, so (using the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Brian Harring wrote: BDEPEND was actually a seperate proposal/idea, intention there was to have that be the deps that *must* be CHOST (gcc would be an example); bits that are used to actually build the pkg, not data it consumes in building (headers would be data). Well, until now I

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable

2006-09-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: i think you're merging the two issues you brought up ... there is binary ABI issues (which should not require a new DEPEND variable as portage can extract that information out at runtime) and there is runtime plugin issues with packages using dlopen() (which portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Orphaned packages

2006-09-19 Thread Alin Nastac
Gustavo Felisberto wrote: net-mail/sendEmail Took this one. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...

2006-09-06 Thread Alin Nastac
Doug Goldstein wrote: dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. Consequence: php eclasses code should be moved in dev-lang/php ebuild. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Alin Nastac
Simon Stelling wrote: I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag shouldn't exist at all because those files add 4kb to the package. Please look at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/35754 . I said it once, I'm saying again: squid need this USE flag.

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Alin Nastac
Every now and then someone get sick of Gentoo and suddenly became prophet, preaching that the end of the distro is near. I wanted to see how much should we worry about it so I've made a perl script to find the history of the following characteristics: - no. of active developers (active dev := did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-07 Thread Alin Nastac
Chris Bainbridge wrote: It may be a better metric to look at the bugzilla stats. How has the number of bugs being filed changed? What ratio of filed bugs are resolved, vs the ones that are left open? bugs.gentoo.org has some facilities for graphing stats back to December 2005... Bugzilla

[gentoo-dev] QA Notice: pre-stripped files found

2006-07-01 Thread Alin Nastac
I have a question for portage devs. Is appending -g to CFLAGS tolerable from your pov? I ask this because net-dialup/freeradius allow me to install unstripped binaries but the correspondent configure option (--enable-developer) also append -g to CFLAGS. Otherwise, I will have to patch

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Notice: pre-stripped files found

2006-07-01 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 01 July 2006 02:34, Alin Nastac wrote: I have a question for portage devs. Is appending -g to CFLAGS tolerable from your pov? you're confusing things adding debugging symbols has nothing to do with the stripping of a binary the warning

[gentoo-dev] last rites for app-mobilephone/openobex-apps

2006-06-25 Thread Alin Nastac
app-mobilephone/openobex-apps has been masked and it will be removed from the tree in 30 days. Those who want a OBEX server should use app-mobilephone/sobexsrv. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] variable quoting, setting optional variables to , and depending on virtual/libc

2006-06-16 Thread Alin Nastac
Thomas Cort wrote: What is the proper quoting style for using epatch? In the tree there are about 3 different styles... epatch ${FILESDIR}/some-fix.patch # used by 7326 ebuilds epatch ${FILESDIR}/some-fix.patch# used by 3092 ebuilds epatch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Chris Bainbridge wrote: ... Do we really have many users on dialup that it would inconvenience? Surely the massive size of the distfiles you have to download makes the impact of rsyncing the portage tree negligible compared to actually fetching everything you want to install? It is hardly a

Re: [gentoo-dev] default RDEPEND?

2006-04-29 Thread Alin Nastac
Carsten Lohrke wrote: RDEPEND=cvs? ( dev-util/cvs ) svn? ( dev-util/subversion ) !cvs? ( ! svn? ( dev-util/cvs ) ) Huh? How about: RDEPEND=|| ( dev-util/cvs dev-util/subversion ) IMO, your example is a USE flag abuse. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Alin Nastac
Ryan Phillips wrote: The council should not vote on gleps are provide policy. They should be there to handle the money and world-wide problems. The developers should drive innovation; not the council. As in all democracies things get done slowly. We don't need a democracy within Gentoo, just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Alin Nastac
Tim Yamin wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 01:55:01PM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: CVS doesn't do branching nor tags very well... __Problem: CVS__ CVS is one of the worst application ever created. The portage tree needs to move to subversion. A lot of the problems within the project would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Alin Nastac
Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: It would be useful to know how many people think herds are not maintainers - if only a few people think this then I suggest it would be better to accept the common interpretation of herd as a group of people who can maintain a package. I've always considered

Re: [gentoo-dev] Which license?

2006-04-27 Thread Alin Nastac
A. Khattri wrote: Im working on an ebuild for a package and Im not sure what license to use. The package is Copyright Company X but has this underneath: ## This software may be freely copied, modified and redistributed ## without fee for non-commerical purposes provided that this license ##

[gentoo-dev] DEPEND/RDEPEND question

2006-04-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Lets say a package foo depends on bar, both at compile time and run time. Shouldn't DEPEND _and_ RDEPEND of the foo package reflect that dependency? I usually set DEPEND=$RDEPEND ... or vice-versa (depending on which is the most demanding). Am I utterly wrong here? I know that when a package is

Re: [gentoo-dev] confusing ppp/rp-pppoe setup

2006-04-23 Thread Alin Nastac
Sven Köhler wrote: at the moment, /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.2/rp-pppoe.so is installed by net-dialup/ppp - nothing special - well, it's not a very recent version. In the syslog it says: RP-PPPoE plugin version 3.3 compiled against pppd 2.4.2 On the other hand, i've got net-dialup/rp-pppoe-3.8 installed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites for app-mobilephone/openobex-apps

2006-04-17 Thread Alin Nastac
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 02:06:00AM +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: dev-libs/openobex-1.2 is now in the tree. Why did you p.mask openobex-apps before openobex-1.2 is stable? For forcing users to test openobex-1.2 ;) I think openobex-1.2 should be unmasked

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites for app-mobilephone/openobex-apps

2006-04-17 Thread Alin Nastac
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 11:21:29AM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Please solve this mess - don't package.mask openobex-apps until openobex-1.2 has the same KEYWORDS as openobex. ... as openobex-apps, of course. ./Brix OK, I've removed the hard mask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites for app-mobilephone/openobex-apps

2006-04-14 Thread Alin Nastac
Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: tor, 13 04 2006 kl. 22:55 +0300, skrev Alin Nastac: Unless someone has a really good reason not to, app-mobilephone/openobex-apps will be removed from the tree on April 20th. Most programs found in this package were included in =dev-libs/openobex-1.2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites for app-mobilephone/openobex-apps

2006-04-14 Thread Alin Nastac
Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: tor, 13 04 2006 kl. 22:55 +0300, skrev Alin Nastac: Unless someone has a really good reason not to, app-mobilephone/openobex-apps will be removed from the tree on April 20th. Most programs found in this package were included in =dev-libs/openobex-1.2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why

2006-04-01 Thread Alin Nastac
Curtis Napier wrote: And that change was duly noted and acted upon by almost everyone. We had several threads in the forums plus the einfo warnings. Most people made the transition without any problems. Good work on the adsl mrness, it works so much better than rp-pppoe now, thanks! Thank

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Daniel Drake wrote: We have a large expense on both sides when adding a developer to the project. I personally have lost developer candidates, undoubtedly more technically experienced than myself, who simply did not have the time to go through a month-long recruitment process which involved

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-06 Thread Alin Nastac
Simon Stelling wrote: Alec Warner wrote: Taking the earlier comment ( changing files only on the mirrors ) there are no portage changes that are technically required. However, you'd need to change about 1 ( random number I pulled out of my ass, but there are many affected ) SRC_URI's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-06 Thread Alin Nastac
Stuart Herbert wrote: Why not have the directory structure follow the package category structure? E.g. the distfiles for package foo/bar goes into the directory ${MIRROR_ROOT}/foo/bar? This should be easy enough to support in Portage, and if applied to the /usr/portage/distfiles directory too,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-06 Thread Alin Nastac
Jan Kundrát wrote: Alin Nastac wrote: this has been discussed before. summary: tarballs could be used by more than one package. this way you'll manage to increase the disk space demands for our mirrors. This one is about sorting by first letter of filename. It won't solve multiple

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-01 Thread Alin Nastac
[deleted] All seems fair enough, but please fix portage qa issues before this policy is applied (see bug http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123733). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 decision delayed

2006-02-11 Thread Alin Nastac
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:14:26 -0500 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Interesting, yes... but ebuilds are read by humans and it is necessary | to be comprehensible a lot more than the Manifest files are. Sure. But the comparison would show whether or not it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default Ebuild behaviour

2006-01-31 Thread Alin Nastac
Chris Gianelloni wrote: Basically, if the package *requires* something to function, such as a cron script, then it should install it unconditionally. If it does not, then it shouldn't install it. Having to change USE to get a stupid cron/logrotate file is definitely not the best option. Why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Alin Nastac
Marcelo Góes wrote: If INSTALL_MASK is the correct way to prevent logrotate stuff from being installed, then those 8 ebuilds I mentioned earlier should drop the USE flag and install it by default. That's probably easier to fix, too. This cannot be done for squid, because this useflag selects

[gentoo-dev] net-proxy/squid should be demoted to ~mips

2006-01-06 Thread Alin Nastac
Given the lack of interest manifested by mips team regarding net-proxy/squid and its security bumps, I propose to remove the last mips-stable version of this package - 2.5.10-r2 - marked as such by hardave on September the 4th 2005. Objections anyone? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-proxy/squid should be demoted to ~mips

2006-01-06 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 06 January 2006 08:07, Alin Nastac wrote: Given the lack of interest manifested by mips team regarding net-proxy/squid and its security bumps, I propose to remove the last mips-stable version of this package - 2.5.10-r2 - marked as such by hardave on September

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Peter Volkov

2005-12-22 Thread Alin Nastac
George Shapovalov wrote: Well, I was going to suggest that, but then I realized that he would have to be 35+ at this point and to be from Kiev ;). What is wrong with being over 30? I'm one of those guys... ;-) Judgind after the fact that is a PhD student, it might be 8-) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-19 Thread Alin Nastac
Mark Loeser wrote: Well, you can tell I didn't exactly think about this too much beforehand, since its been brought to my attention a virtual would probably be best for this, so we would handle the || ( gcc-3.3.* libstdc++ ) inside of the virtual. I'll make one later unless anyone has strong

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge =net-dialup/ppp-2.4.3-r10 will fail requesting for user action

2005-11-26 Thread Alin Nastac
Volkov Peter wrote: I think it's good idea to add some *reasons* why that files are obsoleted. fex: * Gentoo is moving toward common configuration file for all network * interfaces. Thus starting from =ppp-2.4.3-r10 the following files * are obsoleted and should be removed to avoid future

[gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge =net-dialup/ppp-2.4.3-r10 will fail requesting for user action

2005-11-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Hi all, I plan to release a new version of net-dialup/ppp that will add support for the pppd net module found in sys-apps/baselayout-/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11. This version, however, cannot work with the old /etc/init.d/net.ppp0, hence I plan to die in pkg_setup with following messages: *

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Herbie Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 17:32 +0100, Simon Stelling wrote: version 5 does not work on clean install A very descriptive changelog... Any idea what does not work means? . Seems to work pretty well here. same here. anyway, a dev-db/mysql-5 in

[gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge =net-dialup/ppp-2.4.3-r10 will fail requesting for user action

2005-11-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Hi all, I plan to release a new version of net-dialup/ppp that will add support for the pppd net module found in sys-apps/baselayout-/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11. This version, however, cannot work with the old /etc/init.d/net.ppp0, hence I plan to die in pkg_setup with following messages: *

Re: [gentoo-dev] Around 425 non-existent packages in p.mask?

2005-11-22 Thread Alin Nastac
Marius Mauch wrote: If not, i *personally* could go slowly removing the entries, along with other people willing to help, or any other _better_ suggestion to deal with this? Don't do this without explicitly checking with the maintainer for a package (if existant). Generally redundant

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass and $CONFIG_CHECK

2005-09-21 Thread Alin Nastac
Georgi Georgiev wrote: I can only think of a couple of solution: - Remove these unnecessary checks completely: Follow the example of all other distributions and do not depend on anything kernel-ish for such packages. A recompilation of the kernel with different options can easily cause

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal

2005-09-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Georgi Georgiev wrote: - that package in my overlay that has net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager in its *DEPENDs to work for as long as needed gnome-phone-manager can be found in portage tree under app-mobilephone category. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] C++ herd proposal

2005-09-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 20/09/2005-09:37:23(+0300): Alin Nastac types Georgi Georgiev wrote: - that package in my overlay that has net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager in its *DEPENDs to work for as long as needed gnome-phone-manager can be found in portage tree under

Re: [gentoo-dev] ROX: maintainer-wanted and apps out of date

2005-09-12 Thread Alin Nastac
Aron Griffis wrote: Alin Nastac wrote: [Sun Sep 11 2005, 05:02:27PM EDT] Gentoo history is full of such individuals who only want to be sure that they could become devs but are not willing to put any effort behind it. Gentoo's history is full of hard-working devs. The slackers

Re: [gentoo-dev] ROX: maintainer-wanted and apps out of date

2005-09-11 Thread Alin Nastac
Peter Hyman wrote: Firstly; to be asked to become a developer you should either apply to an opening, or just help out whether in the form of user support or filing bug reports - we notice frequent contributors making contributions to Gentoo and we attempt to reward them by giving them the chance

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-10 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: also, four tabs rule you are obviously wrong. three is the magic number ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-08-02 Thread Alin Nastac
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Tom Martin wrote: | Hi list, | | Bug 97447 wants a logrotate USE flag, which is used by about five | packages locally. Unless there are any objections, I'll globalify it | later today. I think this flag is a bad idea. Why should I have to recompile a package to get

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Changelogs

2005-07-27 Thread Alin Nastac
Michael Cummings wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:13:12 +0200 Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't make portage a news reader. Compelling - I tend to agree. It'd be nice if some python-wise individual(group) wrote a tool that could interact with the portage api enough to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-portage/genlop: 9 open bugs, dead upstream

2005-07-25 Thread Alin Nastac
Michael Cummings wrote: As the original handler of genlop (it was assigned to perl herd when it first was asked to be added, since its written in perl) I strongly vote against dropping the package (ok, I didn't even realize it had been switched over to the portage-tools group for maintenance, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo/FreeBSD] enewuser and /bin/false shells

2005-07-19 Thread Alin Nastac
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: As Gentoo/FreeBSD is always improving, I'm thinking is just the case of telling everyone how to correctly use enewuser without bailing out Gentoo/FreeBSD :) enewuser is often used with /bin/false as shell to create an user who can't login. Unfortunately this

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild development (vpopmail, etc.)

2005-07-17 Thread Alin Nastac
Casey Allen Shobe wrote: I'm planning to edit the vpopmail ebuild Real Soon Now to add the mysteriously missing postgres USE flag and thus end up with a package compiled with the support we need. Instead of wasting my time re-adding this every time a new version of vpopmail comes along, I'd

[gentoo-dev] ppp-2.4.3 ready for stable state

2005-07-03 Thread Alin Nastac
I want to mark net-dialup/ppp-2.4.3-r6 as stable on x86 and amd64 (the arches tested by me). Does anyone have a reason why it shouldn't be marked as such? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Jason Stubbs wrote: On Monday 20 June 2005 01:48, Alin Nastac wrote: net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.11-r1 depends on LINGUAS, but the list of supported languages is created in pkg_unpack, based on what tarball contains. What happened to determinism and predictability? From the user's

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-19 Thread Alin Nastac
Jason Stubbs wrote: So there have been many complaints about how USE_EXPANDed flags don't belong in IUSE. There haven't actually been any reasons given though. :P net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.11-r1 depends on LINGUAS, but the list of supported languages is created in pkg_unpack, based on what

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Stefan Briesenick (sbriesen)

2005-06-14 Thread Alin Nastac
Tom Martin wrote: Please welcome Stefan on board. Regards, Tom The source of ISDN-related bugs has been shut down :) Congratulatons, Stefan! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-07 Thread Alin Nastac
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 19:55 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: Also I find it amusing when people say that Gentoo exists for the users. I think that is wrong. Gentoo exists for the *developers*. This is the reason why *I* use/develop Gentoo. I love it. I could care

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Doty wrote: I wonder if there is a svn interface to cvs, or if one could be written. rename/move is a feature of the svn database, not of the svn interface. also support symlinks, btw. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
at the moment, there are 2 radius local useflags: [+ C ] radius (net-dialup/ppp): Enables RADIUS support [+ C ] radius (net-misc/gnugk): Enables radius support but seems that net-misc/ser should also have such flag. any objections? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: Nothing wrong with having three packages with a local use flag. Global use flags are for use flags with global appeal/usage. So far, to me it looks like radius should stay a local use flag. Enables RADIUS support isn't general enough for ya?

Re: [gentoo-dev]

2005-05-09 Thread Alin Nastac
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Sun, 2005-05-08 at 19:53 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: app-mobile sounds good to me ... then just use metadata.xml to include a 'fuller' description :P Please don't use app-mobile as it may be confused with mobile computing, not mobile phones. Any reason

[gentoo-dev] New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Alin Nastac
Hi folks, I think we should make a new category called app-cellphone containing the following packages: net-dialup/gammu net-dialup/gnokii net-dialup/wammu net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager Yes, I know. It is a short list, but shouldn't be a category representative for its content? Alin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Alin Nastac
R Hill wrote: this doesn't include anything like VOIP of course. btw i think cellphone is an Americanism. i worked for ATT Wireless before they were bought by Cingular and the term cellphone was discouraged for that reason. maybe just app-phone? hmm... I think it should include cell or

Re: [gentoo-dev] upcoming mirror cleansing

2005-04-23 Thread Alin Nastac
Brian Harring wrote: Why this matters- around 10,000 files out of 28,600 files will be removed from the mirrors network. Either A) no ebuild claims that distfile. it's orphaned on our mirrors B) RESTRICT=fetch is set for the ebuild. We don't mirror those files. C) RESTRICT=mirror is set

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND in fritzcapi, fcdsl

2005-04-23 Thread Alin Nastac
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 08:42 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, USE_EXPAND is now available to be set in the profiles. I would like to use it to allow only downloading the needed drivers in SRC_URI when FRITZCAPI_CARDS or FCDSL_CARDS is set. Any comments or objections?

Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system

2005-04-22 Thread Alin Nastac
Philip Webb wrote: Ed is there because it's needed for Sed, which is useful for sysadmin; Bc has a similar usefulness. all at basic console level. sed does not depend on ed, nor does the ed depend on sed. sed should remain in system since tons of ebuild heavily depends on it. when was the