Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost

2021-02-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Replying to a random post here- I'm sorry, briefly after I started this thread real life got in the way and a lot of other things became more urgent. As soon as I have time (next weekend?) I'll reply to the many e-mails here. Thanks -A -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux

[gentoo-dev] Towards getting GCC 10 stable

2021-01-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, it would be great if we could get gcc-10 stable at some point in the near future... For that purpose we now have a new tracker: https://bugs.gentoo.org/762907 ("gcc-10-stable", depends on 127 open bugs). Please have a look if you can help anywhere with the blocking bugs. Thanks a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting rid of USE=unicode

2020-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 30. Dezember 2020, 19:53:25 EET schrieb Aisha Tammy: > > Yes, this sounds nice. > What about packages which rely on/give unicode support outside of this flag? > Like the global icu flag, which supposedly needs dev-libs/icu ? > Hmmm... good point. I thought too simple. 1) We want

[gentoo-dev] Getting rid of USE=unicode

2020-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, since utf8 encoding is everywhere by now, and since switching the useflag unicode off without taking precautions is a way to hose your installation, I would propose to medium-term get rid of this flag. Suggestion: 1) use.force unicode now/soon in the default profiles 2) step by

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Discontinuing LibreSSL support?

2020-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > a) The two cannot be installed concurrently. To fix that would require > > even > > more hacks. > > As we've discussed in another part of the thread, that's not really true. > Both can for sure be installed, just not in the same place and/or > with same names. Exactly that is what would

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Discontinuing LibreSSL support?

2020-12-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 29. Dezember 2020, 13:29:35 EET schrieb Peter Stuge: > I agree completely that it's unreasonable for Gentoo (worse, 1 person!) > to continuosly patch the entire world for libressel. > > I'm asking to stop doing that, yet still enable the choice between > openssl and libressl where

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Discontinuing LibreSSL support?

2020-12-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> TL;DR: is there really a point in continuing the never-ending always- > regressing struggle towards supporting LibreSSL in Gentoo? > > I would like to discuss the possibility of discontinuing LibreSSL > support in Gentoo in favor of sticking with OpenSSL. From a team member and initial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating AMD64 17.0 profiles?

2020-11-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
On November 9, 2020 1:54:33 PM GMT+02:00, Peter Stuge wrote: >Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: >> it's probably time to deprecate the amd64 17.0 profiles! > >I for one am not so excited about the amd64 17.1 profiles. On the >surface >it appeared to me that one developer has "taken over" just about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating AMD64 17.0 profiles?

2020-11-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
On November 7, 2020 1:42:44 PM GMT+02:00, Alexey Sokolov wrote: >22.10.2020 20:16, Andreas K. Hüttel пишет: >> Am Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2020, 18:44:48 EEST schrieb Michał Górny: >>> On Thu, 2020-10-22 at 11:17 -0400, Brian Evans wrote: Users frequently are choosing the wrong profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] LiveCD Project disbanding: packages up for grabs

2020-11-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
>dev-util/dialog >sys-block/parted Im going to add base-system to these two later (in addition to dedicated maintainers) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on new > systems from eudev to udev. Well... maybe you could somewhat expand on the why? -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Typo in julia-1.4.0-r2.ebuild

2020-07-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Fixed, thank you! Am Mittwoch, 1. Juli 2020, 12:35:09 EEST schrieb Xianwen Chen (陈贤文): > Dear all, > > There is a typo in > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/dev-lang/julia/julia-1.4.0-r2 > .ebuild. > > > On line 82, instead of *llvm_pkg_setp*, it should be *llvm_pkg_setup*. > >

[gentoo-dev] last rites: media-libs/openmoiv

2020-03-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2020-03-27) # No consumers. Build problems, bug 668244. Removal in 30 days. media-libs/openmoiv -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: x11-terms/aterm, x11-terms/xvt

2020-03-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Andreas, perhaps this should be added to the mask comment? Happy to > push a PR or simply add this information to the bug report, at the very > least I thing the bug report should be closed with WONTFIX, may I > proceed with that? I'll same comments there if in order. Sure, adding the info

[gentoo-dev] last rites: x11-terms/aterm, x11-terms/xvt

2020-03-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2020-03-26) # Fail to build with glibc-2.30; no maintainer. Removal in 30days. # Bugs 691756, 691710 x11-terms/aterm x11-terms/xvt -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: noarch keyword

2020-03-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> So, my question is, why can't we add a noarch/~noarch keyword and see > how things go? If it gets abused we can always nuke it later. I'm pretty sure we already discussed this in very much detail in the past at least once, and came to the conclusion that there are problems with that approach.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: noarch keyword

2020-03-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2020, 19:40:57 CET schrieb William Hubbs: > There would be no need to cc all arches on the bug, just make noarch@g.o > an alias that emails to all arch teams. We might as well just make an allarches@... alias. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Discontinuing (more-than-absolutely-minimal) Python support for non-x86 arches

2020-03-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Perhaps we could write a tool that > looks up newer versions of installed ebuilds that have dropped keywords > for a given arch and report which dependencies also need keywording. I > guess we don't have something like that? True, keeping track of long-running stable requests with complicated

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Discontinuing (more-than-absolutely-minimal) Python support for non-x86 arches

2020-03-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > > > https://github.com/zmedico/portage/compare/master...zmedico:drobbins-track > > -keywords?expand=1 > That's kind of what ALLARCHES is for although IIRC the rules state that > packages should still be initially keyworded in the usual way. Other > distros do "noarch" though so the idea isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: app-office/calcurse/

2020-03-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 12. März 2020, 20:23:56 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 11:44 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:54 AM Andreas K. Huettel > > > > wrote: > > > Someone needs to grow up here. > > > > Meh, to me (so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: app-office/calcurse/

2020-03-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 12. März 2020, 19:44:15 CET schrieb Alec Warner: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:54 AM Andreas K. Huettel > > wrote: > > Someone needs to grow up here. > > Meh, to me (someone who can't commit to ::gentoo) I have a few concerns > here. First, I don't

[gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: app-office/calcurse/

2020-03-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Someone needs to grow up here. -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Betreff: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: app-office/calcurse/ Datum: Mittwoch, 11. März 2020, 09:24:16 CET Von: Patrice Clement An: gentoo-comm...@lists.gentoo.org commit:

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: app-office/calcurse/

2020-03-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Reverted [QA]. For reasons see below. Am Dienstag, 10. März 2020, 12:28:25 CET schrieb Patrice Clement: > commit: 34217564ddc5cd46762ffdaeb217aabd905dec6a > Author: Patrice Clement gentoo org> > AuthorDate: Tue Mar 10 10:32:00 2020 + > Commit: Patrice Clement gentoo org> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: sci-visualization/gwyddion

2020-01-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020, 00:49:08 CET schrieb David Seifert: > # David Seifert (2020-01-21) > # No sign of py3 port, depends on EOL pygtk and gtkglext. > # Many open bugs, no revdeps. > # Bug #443088, #582454, #598682, #623314. Removal in 30 days. > sci-visualization/gwyddion Urgh. Way too

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/2] install-qa-check.d: allow acct-user home directories under /home.

2020-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 20. Januar 2020, 04:43:50 CET schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > In rare cases, a system user will need a real home directory to store > per-user configuration data and/or be accessed interactively by a > human being. In those cases, /home/${username} is an appropriate place > for the user's

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] package.deprecated: Create initial template

2019-12-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 17:09:57 CET schrieb Michał Górny: [...] > +# This file specifies packages that are considered deprecated (but not > +# masked yet). It will trigger pkgcheck warnings whenever other > +# packages depend on them. Just saying, this is an awesome functionality, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2019-12-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
How about adding yourself as maintainer then? :) Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 14:42:59 CET schrieb Jason A. Donenfeld: > Hi, > > Aaron has marked tons of important and useful Python 2.7 packages for > removal: > > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=d85e166dd999c354a5346fb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do (old-ish) Portage QA checks comprise policy?

2019-11-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > TL;DR: If a QA check is enforced by Portage for a reasonably long time, > > does it constitute policy? Or can it be changed unilaterally by Portage > > team? > To avoid these sorts of questions in the future, [snip since offtopic] > In this case, whether or not this is "policy" is beside

[gentoo-dev] last rites: perl-app.eclass

2019-10-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# @DEAD # This eclass is dead and all its consumers have been removed from # the tree. # Please use perl-module.eclass if you need phase functions, and # perl-functions.eclass if you don't. # In overlays, perl-app.eclass usage can be replaced by # perl-module.eclass without further changes. # Bug

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-perl/NetxAP

2019-10-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2019-10-15) # Fails self-tests badly, no revdeps, upstream doesnt care # since 1999. Removal in 30 days. Bug 641530. dev-perl/NetxAP -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stable-bot is down. Temporary? Forever? Can we have a contacts page for it?

2019-10-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > > > Is it appropriate to list services that are not managed by infra on this > > page? > > Yes, in the 'External-run' section of the page. I'll add a stub for > stable-bot now that we have some more details. In any case, since many people *do* rely on it, maybe we should declare it

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] perl-app.eclass: remove unneeded @USAGE lines

2019-09-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Just do it. (But perl-app.eclass should die in a fire anyway.) Am Freitag, 6. September 2019, 21:02:21 CEST schrieb Ben Kohler: > Signed-off-by: Ben Kohler > --- > eclass/perl-app.eclass | 3 --- > 1 file changed, 3 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/eclass/perl-app.eclass

[gentoo-dev] last rites: sci-libs/openfoam-bin

2019-09-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2019-09-04) # EAPI 2. Brutally outdated and untouched for ages. Removal in # 30 days, bug 688504 sci-libs/openfoam-bin -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-java/jlayer

2019-08-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2019-08-14) # EAPI=2, ages old, effectively unmaintained. Gone in # 30 days. Bug 688154 dev-java/jlayer -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/6] profiles: enable USE="split-usr" in base

2019-07-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 15. Juli 2019, 03:49:00 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: >(This will be especially bad for the people who start > with USE="-*") Not recommended, not supported. Garbage in, garbage out. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system,

[gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-apps/cobalt-panel-utils

2019-06-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (23 Jun 2019) # EAPI2, broken HOMEPAGE, maintainer-needed, lots of QA warnings, # for hardware that was EOL'ed <=2007. Removal in 30 days. Bug 681060 sys-apps/cobalt-panel-utils -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain,

[gentoo-dev] last rites: www-apache/mod_tidy

2019-06-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (23 Jun 2019) # last release was 2006, EAPI2, maintainer-needed, depends on # app-text/htmltidy; removal in 30 days, bug 686324 www-apache/mod_tidy -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

[gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 must die

2019-06-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, for the package maintainers among you, here's the list of remaining EAPI=2 packages. Please help getting the number down to zero soon!!! Cheers, Andreas app-emulation/ganeti-instance-debootstrap-0.11 app-misc/dnetc-2.9108.517 app-misc/dnetc-2.9110.519b dev-dotnet/flickrnet-bin-2.2-r1

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-util/antlrworks

2019-06-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (5 Jun 2019) # Unhandled version bumps since 2015, bug 293306. EAPI=2. # Removal in 30 days unless updated. dev-util/antlrworks -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-java/glassfish-connector-api

2019-06-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (5 Jun 2019) # Fails to build, bug 680252. EAPI=2. Removal in 30 days # unless fixed. dev-java/glassfish-connector-api -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Announcing RISC-V

2019-05-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
, and the multilib profile has been marked stable (i.e. repoman will enforce dependency-tree consistency). A lot of useflags are still masked though. Also, *only* python-3.7 is available. Cheers, Andreas Am Freitag, 3. Mai 2019, 23:34:40 CEST schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Hi all, > > a

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-lang/confluence

2019-05-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (11 May 2019) # Severely outdated, no commits since 2009, EAPI=2. # Bug 679686. Removal in 30 days. dev-lang/confluence -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-embedded/tavrasm

2019-05-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (11 May 2019) # Build failures, other QA issues, EAPI=2. See bug 681046 # Removal in 30 days. dev-embedded/tavrasm -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-accessibility/festival and reverse dependencies

2019-05-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (11 May 2019) # Outdated, EAPI=2, unmaintained, segfaults immediately. # See bug 634928 and bug 612980. Removal in 30 days. app-accessibility/festival app-accessibility/festival-freebsoft-utils app-accessibility/festival-hts app-accessibility/festival-it

[gentoo-dev] Announcing RISC-V

2019-05-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, after some preparations, we're happy to announce (initially experimental) support for a new arch: riscv * The project page is at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RISC-V Feel free to join if you want to help and/or even have hardware. We also have a dedicated IRC channel,

[gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: dev-libs/elfutils/

2019-04-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Public service announcement: Calling for stabilization requires maintainer acknowledgment. While there may be parts of Gentoo where this requirement is seen a bit more loosely, it is definitely true for TOOLCHAIN and BASE-SYSTEM. Cheers, Andreas -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht

Re: [gentoo-dev] the state of dev-lang/lua

2019-03-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 23. März 2019, 22:23:27 CET schrieb William Hubbs: > Hi all, > > Soon I will be working on fixing up the state of dev-lang/lua, and there > are a couple of things I want to mention. > > The first thing is liblua as a shared library. If you are using lua > internally in a program,

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.28 stabilization

2019-03-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
ang is unmaintained and unsupported. If breaking clang-7 is a problem, please prove me otherwise; I'm not waiting anymore. Cheers, Andreas -- PD Dr. Andreas K. Huettel Institute for Experimental and Applied Physics University of Regensburg 93040 Regensburg Germany tel. +49 151 241 67748 (mobile) tel.

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-arch/freeze

2019-02-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Huettel (23 Feb 2019) # Fails to build with glibc-2.28, bug 669206. # Removal in 30 days. app-arch/freeze -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

[gentoo-dev] EAPI=2 must die!!!

2019-01-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, there are only 92 ebuilds with EAPI=2 left in the tree. Let's make sure this number goes down faaast! Cheers, Andreas app-accessibility/festival-2.1-r1 app-emulation/ganeti-htools-0.3.1 app-emulation/ganeti-instance-debootstrap-0.11 app-misc/bottlerocket-0.04c-r1

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-misc/ckermit

2019-01-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (1 Jan 2019) # Fails to build with glibc-2.28. Removal in 30days (unless # fixed). Bug 669332 app-misc/ckermit -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a

[gentoo-dev] vmware project "empty"

2018-12-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, after me leaving (*), there are no members in the vmware project anymore. Luckily it only maintains one remaining package in the tree, app-emulation/ open-vm-tools. We still have the vmware overlay, which is mainly user-maintained at the moment. So, either join if you're interested

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-tex/revtex

2018-12-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (25 Dec 2018) # Included in dev-tex/texlive-publishers-2017; there is no # need for a separate package anymore. Removal in 30 days. dev-tex/revtex -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

[gentoo-dev] up for grabs: www-misc/zoneminder

2018-12-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
www-misc/zoneminder is up for grabs since I dont use it anymore and have no time for maintaining it... -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, perl, libreoffice, comrel) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Packages up for grabs from xmw@g.o

2018-11-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 26. November 2018, 02:37:14 CET schrieb Benda Xu: > Michał Górny writes: > > > > x11-wm/xpra > > > I take this, the "X Persistent Remote Apps". Happy to help, I'm also using this. (Awesome unknown app of the year. The one thing that makes Mathematica useful over a network link.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] fortran-2.eclass: support EAPI 7

2018-10-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > -inherit eutils toolchain-funcs > +inherit toolchain-funcs > > case ${EAPI:-0} in > - 4|5|6) EXPORT_FUNCTIONS pkg_setup ;; > + 4|5|6|7) EXPORT_FUNCTIONS pkg_setup ;; > *) die "EAPI=${EAPI} is not supported" ;; > esac > ^ The disadvantage of this is that eutils inheritance

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-tcltk/ck

2018-10-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (20 Oct 2018) # Fails to build with glibc-2.27, bug 648620. No reverse # dependencies. Removal in 30 days. dev-tcltk/ck -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, perl, libreoffice, comrel) signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is there any way I can help with pull requests?

2018-10-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I've always considered the entry barrier to become a dev too much work for > keeping a small involvement. I might just be lazy or not interested enough > I agree. Still I must not be the only one. I might also just have a wrong > impression of what's needed. Well, in the end the quizzes mostly

[gentoo-dev] tcltk project has no members

2018-09-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Dear all, the tcltk project has no members, and noone is cc'ed on the tcltk@ alias. If you want to help maintaining this, please sign up for project and alias. If both are still empty in two weeks, the 39 packages become maintainer-needed (so there is no "illusion of maintainership") and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> If a package really ought to have > -Werror due to a very good reason and is properly maintained to support it, > then there is nothing wrong with inventing a USE flag to give users the > option of enforcing that. There is something very *much* wrong with that. 1) It's trivial to enforce

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> So, if maintainer has enough manpower to support this flag, we > should allow to keep it. No. [Unless maintainer also joins toolchain team and tests everything with every release candidate of the compiler.] You have no idea how much unneccessary pain -Werror caused when gcc started warning

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2018, 23:51:17 CEST schrieb Ben Kohler: > Hello, > > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already > enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few packages > > Any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What means bup?

2018-07-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 20. Juli 2018, 02:55:51 CEST schrieb Mikle Kolyada: > > I think more recently I've been following this format. > > > > cat/pkg: x.y.z bup > > But can you please *stop* doing this as well? It is neither clear > language *nor* useful reduction. ++ Please stop it. -- Andreas K.

[gentoo-dev] gcc-7 going stable now

2018-06-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, just to give a general heads up, sys-devel/gcc-7.3.0-r3 is now getting stabilized on all arches in bug 658444. Cheers from the toolchain team, Andreas -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, perl, libreoffice, comrel) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/2] drop git logic from toolchain eclasses

2018-06-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2018, 03:47:14 CEST schrieb Marty E. Plummer: > In the live ebuilds using this eclass, the git logic is handled in the > ebuild itself and not the eclass. Drop the git logic as it uses git-2 > which has been deprecated for quite some time. > > Marty E. Plummer (2): >

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.26 just went stable (on amd64)

2018-06-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
As a heads-up, glibc-2.26 just went stable on amd64. If you still have open bugs, they now mutate from "doesn't build with glibc-2.26" to "doesn't build, treecleaning candidate". Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, perl,

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.26 stabilization soon

2018-05-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
The number of blocker bugs has decreased a lot, so unless something both new and serious is coming up I'm going to ask for glibc-2.26 stabilization on 6/June/2018 (that is a month after uploading the latest patchset). We really need to get this rolling, since the glibc-2.28 release is

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug queue size over time

2018-05-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2018, 19:45:21 CEST schrieb Matt Turner: > > > > some graphs already exist (and I'm doing it the dumb way, ask me about the > > details if interested). E.g., > > https://www.akhuettel.de/gentoo-bugs/arches.php > > > > Feel free to send me any e-mail addresses you want on a

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug queue size over time

2018-05-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2018, 18:42:32 CEST schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.: > > Just checking back here - what would be the best way to graph number of > bugs with given assignee, preferably with historical backfill? > > I'm not necessarily looking for something ready to use right away. If > there's some

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-scheme/ikarus

2018-03-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (30 Mar 2018) # Fails to build (bug 408463). EAPI=3 (bug 648452). # Masked for removal in 30 days. dev-scheme/ikarus -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, perl, libreoffice, comrel) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting glibc-2.26 stable (reminder)

2018-03-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 30. März 2018, 19:15:16 CEST schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > Hey all, > > now that upstream has already released glibc-2.27, we should think about > getting glibc-2.26 stable soon. That, however, means work for all of us. > And, as this seems to be a frequently

[gentoo-dev] Getting glibc-2.26 stable (reminder)

2018-03-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Re-sending this as a reminder... - Hey all, now that upstream has already released glibc-2.27, we should think about getting glibc-2.26 stable soon. That, however, means work for all of us. Typical problems: * Build

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > > > * Mainly, less stuff to memorize. I'll be throwing a party on the day when > > the last EAPI=0 ebuild is gone. (In the retirement home, probably.) > > This is the argument made by others about the cognitive overhead of > remembering all the EAPI differences. If the packages are untouched

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 6. März 2018, 02:52:54 CET schrieb Matt Turner: > EAPI 2 removal bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/648050 > > It seems like tons of churn to update old stable ebuilds to a new > EAPI, just for its own sake. Take https://bugs.gentoo.org/648154 for > example. New ebuild added with EAPI 6

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 3. März 2018, 15:39:50 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > > That's not a solution. That's cheap a cheap excuse that works for one > package, for today. It does not solve the generic case, it does not mean > that other members of toolchain or any other team will not end up having > to remember

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-pda/p3nfs

2018-03-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (03 Mar 2018) # Fails to build without rpc support in glibc (bug 631044); # no maintainer, requires obsolete hardware. Removal in # 30 days. app-pda/p3nfs -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, perl,

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-text/noweb

2018-03-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (03 Mar 2018) # Marked obsolete on CTAN. EAPI=3 ebuild. No consumers. # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug 644258 app-text/noweb -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, perl, libreoffice, comrel)

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2018, 11:57:37 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > > https://git.centos.org/summary/rpms!glibc.git > > 2.5 and 2.12 aren't there, but for 2.17 it looks good, this seems to be the > complete patchset. We should be able to translate that into a gentoo b

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2018, 11:20:36 CET schrieb James Le Cuirot: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:10:13 +0100 > > "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 > > instead. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2018, 07:17:47 CET schrieb Benda Xu: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18... Benda, another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 instead. Yes I know they are

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2018, 07:17:47 CET schrieb Benda Xu: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many of > them are data acquisition hubs or computing clusters. No administrator > cares

[gentoo-dev] Getting glibc-2.26 stable

2018-02-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, now that upstream has already released glibc-2.27, we should think about getting glibc-2.26 stable soon. That, however, means work for all of us. Typical problems: * Build failures because xlocale.h is gone https://bugs.gentoo.org/638010 Fix: include locale.h instead * Build

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: Portage Dynamic Deps

2018-01-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 22. Januar 2018, 08:01:08 CET schrieb Zac Medico: > > According to Gentoo policy, future ebuild dependency changes need to be > accompanied by a revision bump in order to trigger rebuilds for users. > Therefore, you should only need to use --changed-deps=y for a single > deep @world

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018, 18:16:33 CET schrieb Vincent-Xavier JUMEL: > Le 2018-01-10 10:53, Michał Górny a écrit : > > Last I checked, Gentoo was a Linux distribution. However, some people > > prefer to turn it into open discussion forum that has nothing to do > > with > > making a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Does being 'struck off' the list in this way apply to devs, including > Council and comrel members? So far noone has even considered "striking" devs off the list. If this even were to happen ever, it would have to be backed by a full comrel team decision / vote. And these don't happen often,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018, 10:53:39 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > > I guess you should have voiced your opinion back when discussion was > taking place instead of being hostile *now* because the Council listened > to what the developers requested. > > And if you are curious, then I've been

[gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to implement changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1]. These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list, and will come into effect on 23 January 2018. * Subscribing to the list and receiving list mail remains as it is now. *

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improving the support for minor arches and less common profiles in CI

2018-01-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 6. Januar 2018, 12:10:53 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > Hi, everyone. > > I think most of us agree that support for minor arches in Gentoo > is suboptimal, and that we've pretty much been focusing on avoiding > the problem than really solving it. > I think it would help here to get the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Patches to update toolchain.eclass to EAPI=5

2017-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 30. Dezember 2017, 13:22:52 CET schrieb Anthony G. Basile: > Hi everyone, > > We've been stuck on EAPI=4 with toolchain.eclass for a while. This is > causing problems with subslotting libraries like mpfr, mpc, gmp and isl > that gcc depend on (see bug #642316). I went through and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping stable USE flags for 4.14

2017-12-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 29. Dezember 2017, 15:46:03 CET schrieb Toralf Förster: > On 12/29/2017 02:58 PM, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: > > While not all issues are present in gentoo-sources-4.14.8-r1 we are > > concerned about the current stability/quality of the 4.14.x branch in > I'd suggest dropping stable for

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-lang/swig:1 dev-python/apse

2017-12-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (27 Dec 2017) # Ancient. EAPI=3. (Nearly) no consumers. Needs to go. # Removal in 30 days. dev-lang/swig:1 # Andreas K. Hüttel (27 Dec 2017) # Last remaining consumer of dev-lang/swig:1, which needs # to go the way of the dinosaur.

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-text/dvibook app-text/dvipdfm app-text/dvipdfmx app-text/xdvipdfmx

2017-12-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (25 Dec 2017) # Provided (and blocked) by app-text/texlive-core (since TL 2014) # Removal in 30 days; bug 628820 app-text/dvibook app-text/dvipdfm app-text/dvipdfmx app-text/xdvipdfmx -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer

[gentoo-dev] default-pie problem tracker

2017-12-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, if you encounter bugs that are caused by the default-pie settings in the 17.0 profiles, please make them block the "default-pie" tracker (bug 642232). Thanks!!! (Please make a best effort to doublecheck though that the problem really is PIE. The world rebuild found many build issues

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2017, 14:21:10 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > Hello, everyone. > > It's my pleasure to announce that with a majority vote the QA team has > accepted a new policy. The accepted wording is: > > Total size of 'files' subdirectory of a package should not be larger > than 32

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: repo/gentoo:master commit in: dev-libs/libunibreak/

2017-12-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 13:21:47 CET schrieb Fabian Groffen: > Can we make it a policy to list /what/ QA issues are the justification > for commits like these? A description in the commit message would be > preferred, but a pointer to a location where said issues can be found > would do

That's all folks. (Re: OT Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists)

2017-12-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017, 19:06:36 CET schrieb William L. Thomson Jr.: > > The day everyone wanted has come, after this message. I will > unsubscribe not to return. You all won in 2008, and again in 2017. > Though this time I will not be back. I tried more than most anyone else > would for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017, 00:40:11 CET schrieb William L. Thomson Jr.: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 00:25:46 +0100 > > Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > One of the primary issues recently is that you keep bringing up old > > matters in a way that is a criticism of Gentoo overall, in

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC v2: news item for the 17.0 profiles

2017-11-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 28. November 2017, 12:43:59 CET schrieb Dirkjan Ochtman: > > = > > Title: New 17.0 profiles in the Gentoo repository > > Author: Andreas K. Hüttel > > So gcc-6.4.0 is now in stable on amd64, when do we expect the news item to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Patch for toolchain.eclass for uclibc-ng

2017-11-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 25. November 2017, 15:01:20 CET schrieb Anthony G. Basile: > Hi everyone, > > With the stabilization of gcc-6.4.0, the uclibc build broke because the > eclass requires UCLIBC_VER to be define on uclibc systems else it will > die(). Since uclibc specific patches are no longer needed

Re: [gentoo-dev] keywording ~sys-libs/glibc-2.26

2017-11-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 12. November 2017, 20:53:15 CET schrieb Joshua Kinard: > > I take it Python was fixed to handle this? > Yes, newest ~arch in all python slots is fixed. (That was the main blocker for keywording.) -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl,

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