Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What are blocks used for?
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:59:26 +0200 Mateusz A. Mierzwiński [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to know that Gentoo will be usable for me and my client's that I provide Gentoo Linux support. I recommending Gentoo whatever I can, but when I see what happens than I starting to worry. If you really saw what is happening in this thread (other than noise created by yourself), you would understand that it will make Gentoo better by handling blocks more gracefully and in a much more user-friendly way. Regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] Keyword request interface (SoC candidate?)
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:49:25 -0500 Richard Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cringe when I see a stable request for some dialup networking package - I doubt many devs even own modems these days. I do own few modems, but alas, no phone line to hook them up to. :) -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages of for grabs
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:03:39 +0200 Cédric Krier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/09/07 22:48 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:08:29 +0200 Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - app-admin/psmon (mcummings) - net-im/bitlbee (weeve) I'll take these two unless someone else wants them more. I already take bitlbee, but you are welcome if you want also it. No, no, it's rightfully yours. :) -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages of for grabs
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:08:29 +0200 Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - app-admin/psmon (mcummings) - net-im/bitlbee (weeve) I'll take these two unless someone else wants them more. Regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Zombie: Sven Vermeulen (swift)
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:22:56 +0300 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your doc zombie Sven Vermeulen has risen from his grave and is back to beat www.gentoo.org/doc/en with his fingers. Give him the usual welcome with nice head shots. Welcome back, Sven. And no, you can't have my brain. I said no! No! Don't get any closer to me! Aaargh, nooo!! -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New (old) Developer: Deedra Waters (dmwaters)
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:08:48 +0200 Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my pleasure to welcome back Deedra Waters (also known as dmwaters on IRC). Deedra is joining us from Pensacola, FL. She is going to work on the accessibility stuff (she is blind), will be re-joining Developer Relations, and helping the kernel people to fix sparc/amd64 related kernel problems. So please give Deedra a warm welcome ! Hah, yet another proof that Gentoo is addictive. Welcome back, make yourself comfortable, and have another shot. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:24:06 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 02:57:59AM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: This is exactly the reason that I proposed the contact=0 attribute - for some of the packages that I maintain, I do not want the bugs assigned directly to me, but to the herd instead. While for others I _do_ want the duplicate. Could contact be named differently then? 'autocontact' then? Both 'assign' and 'cc' (and derivations thereof are not suitable). How about 'possessive'? :) -- Andrej -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:11:26 -0400 Josh Sled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E.g., I don't know what genealogy has to do with theology, but I do see that both relate to the human condition. The fact that Adam and Eve will be found at the beginning of every genealogy graph. Just kidding, just kidding! (/me runs away, haunted by Darwin's ghost). -- Andrej -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 and volumes (raid, lvm, crypt, etc)
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:40:53 +0200 Jan Kundrát [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So just get a beer and be cool, okay? It's friday, after all... No! No beer until my work shift ends! Then I'll join you. -- Andrej -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] genlop-0.30.6 released
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:28:52 +0200 Timothy Redaelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imho is a waste of time to maintain two projects which does the same things (genloop and qlop) Perhaps because each has features that the other doesn't (genlop's --date, for example). Also, as long as involved people don't consider it a waste of time, it's not a waste of time - it's their time, after all. Regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:02:28 +0200 Christopher Covington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first condition you list is a sort of nativism that I for one would expect not to find in a successful copyleft project created on the Internet. Why should the code Gentoo uses be written by Gentoo developers? Nobody seems to have a problem with using someone else's C compiler and installation tools (gcc, autoconf, automake). Resistance to a package manager on the grounds that, It wasn't originally written by us! could perhaps push technical arguments that actually matter into the background. It seems to me that this is just vapier's way of saying I don't want ciaranm anywhere near an official package manager. Regards, -- Andrej -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:24:03 -0400 Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point being made, then, is that for an official package manager to exist *for Gentoo*, it needs to be under *Gentoo's* control. Well, the source is open, and there are already enough Gentoo devs working on it, so it's not like Gentoo can't control what's being used. Let's say paludis does become the official PM for Gentoo. This would undoubtedly mean that (even more) Gentoo developers would be working on it, likely with Ciaran's (or anyone else without @gentoo.org's) contributions. How is that different from non-developers submitting patches to portage? Kind regards, -- Andrej -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:55:55 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Ubuntu or Fedora do the job better then Gentoo has failed in its goal of providing a near-ideal tool... Semantically speaking, it hasn't failed - there's nothing about providing a better (or nearer-ideal) tool than someone else in that goal statement. :) Kind regards, -- Andrej -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] www-apps/dokuwiki maintainer needed
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:46:30 +0100 Raphael Marichez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone willing to take care of this package in the future, please update metadata.xml and CC yourself on the bug. Non-vulnerable version is in the tree, and I have added myself to metadata.xml with description Backup maintainer - because we all want Ramareth to come back. :) As I said on the bug, If anyone is against it, just yell - especially www-apps, perhaps they have a rule that one has to be in their team before maintaining a www-apps package, or something like that. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] A User's View of the Code of Conduct
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:47:16 -0500 Larry Lines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe I will stick around and maybe I will find a niche to help out with that I can feel passionately enough to start a flame war. Yes please, by all means, do that (the helping out part, not the flame war part :) ). You see, behind those people flaming, there is quite a lot of people who don't say a word and just do their work on Gentoo. Of course, I didn't mean to imply that people involved in the flamefests aren't doing any work - some of them are working pretty hard and very well. Just that it is possible to enjoy working on Gentoo without having to wear asbestos suit. :) Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:28:29 -0600 Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is that kinda stuff just puts ppl off; i've seen you carry on bugzilla but i always thought fair enough he's stressed and working on loads a bugs; if you really wanted to say that crap to me, you could have emailed me. Wow, somebody took that completely the wrong way. It was nothing more than a joke. This is a fine example of how different people are in perceiving jokes. BTW, I never understood why are certain people so touchy about homosexuality, while others joke about it with their peers daily (and very personally). Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: gkrellm-plugin
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:02:50 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How useful is the X use flag in gkrellm? Just thinking if it would be better to just remove the use flag and always build that code. There is a possibility for headless servers to run gkrellmd, which runs in background, and connect to it from elsewhere with a gkrellm frontend. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting
Dňa Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:46:35 -0700 Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: On 3/3/07, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it a developer-only privilege? You just made that up. To co-lead a Gentoo project? You need to be a dev to do that. I couldn't join any projects even as a member until I became a dev, and I created the distro. You are effectively co-leading (likely leading) PMS as a non-dev - worse than that, as someone who has been explicitly removed from a dev role. Daniel, could you please stop that? You're being ridiculous and just wasting everyone's time with this. The guy wants to do some work on PMS, let him do it - in my opinion he's one of the most qualified people to do it. Why does it matter whether or not he has write access to the portage tree CVS module (work on PMS doesn't require any commits there anyway) ? Don't start again about the dubious official status of Gentoo developership - since when is volunteer work about political (yes, political) status? Just. Drop. It. Regards, -- Andrej Kacian ticho at gentoo org Gentoo Linux developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting
Dňa Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:32:40 -0700 Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: Really, I don't see any reason for any party to fight my suggestion, as it would benefit everyone. If people are truly concerned about productivity, then I would expect them to support it. I am concerned about PMS to be done right, and I think Ciaran is one of the most qualified people to do it (as I already stated). Therefore I disagree with your attempts to ban him from gentoo development, as it would hurt Gentoo, instead of increasing productivity. I'm not going to actively fight your suggestion though, because I have packages to maintain and only limited time, which you're already cutting into with your nonsensical notions about boundaries. -- Andrej Kacian ticho at gentoo org Gentoo Linux developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting
Dňa Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:24:32 -0500 William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: The Gentoo Java project has many users contributing to it and I wouldn't have it any other way. Users contributing is one thing. A former dev that was kicked now contributing as a user is quite different IMHO. No, in this context it is exactly the same. -- Andrej Kacian ticho at gentoo org Gentoo Linux developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What do you think about removing gtk-1.2 theme engines from tree?
Dňa Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:02:54 -0700 Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: #3 It's ok to add themes to Portage if they are part of an official theme collection for a particular package. That way we have all the official themes - everything else would be up to the user to install. What if there is some unofficial, user-contributed theme which is very, very popular among users of relevant package. I think that makes it a perfect candidate for being in portage[1], while not falling under your three exceptions. Portage was really designed for executable software, not for arbitrary collections of binary data (themes, ezines, etc.) Not that collecting/indexing those things is bad, just not really what Portage is aimed at. Realizing that I am replying to someone who was at the birth of Portage, I disagree - Portage is a means of getting filesets installed on a system in a controlled way. Choice of these filesets should be purely at packagers' discretion. Of course, common sense has to be applied. 1. The reason for this is the same as the one we hate certain distributions, which force us to install nvidia drivers ourselves, without package manager aid. Kind regards, -- Andrej Kacian ticho at gentoo org Gentoo Linux developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing Daniel Robbins (drobbins)
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:06:17 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my please to introduce to you Daniel drobbins Robbins. Daniel is going to work with the amd64 arch team but will probably venture to other areas too. Daniel doesn't have much experience with Gentoo so let's give him a helping hand in the start. Daniel who? :) Welcome back! -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] What do you think about removing gtk-1.2 theme engines from tree?
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:43:10 +0200 Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do YOU think about removing these from tree? gtk-engines/gtk-engines-0.12.ebuild:DEPEND==x11-libs/gtk+-1.2* gtk-engines-begtk/gtk-engines-begtk-1.0.1-r2.ebuild:DEPEND==x11-libs/gtk+-1.2* [snip] As long as we have GTK+-1.2 in the tree, I'd rather keep them in. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:51:51 + Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said, tho, I'm happy if the council is. Although I'm starting to worry at the increasingly poisonous atmosphere, and that devs are leaving. Flameeyes was on the council, no? It concerns me that this atmosphere is just intimidating people simply because no one feels confident to stand up to abusive bullying. Diego left because he was simply burnt out, as suggested by his many blog posts. As for the poisonous atmosphere - I don't know, I feel very good among the developers, and am still enjoying working on the tree just like on the day I joined. Don't let few loud flamers ruin your day. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What do you think about removing gtk-1.2 theme engines from tree?
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:10:16 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that those who have it already merged along with their favorite theme can keep them in overlay, so removing the themes from the tree simply keeps new users from merging something that's already on its way out, only to have to deal with its removal relatively soon (months?) thereafter. Um, you're contradicting yourself here. If new users install the themes, they can go on using them after they're removed just as those who already have it installed. The point I was trying to make is that themes are in fact (optional) support packages for gtk1, not real applications using it, and should only be removed once the library itself goes away. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:48:49 -0700 Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/21/07, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you insane? What on earth could Jakub possibly contribute? If you want a rough indication of Jakub's level of ebuild understanding, take a look at bug 160328. Is there any process in place to ban people from the gentoo-dev mailing list who are chronically verbally abusive and make no effort at all to be polite? We shouldn't have to put up with this. Oh come on. Put up with what? He's just defending himself, and for the record, I agree completely with his standpoint in this whole discussion. It has already been established that EAPI spec is being worked on by enough qualified people - how about everyone drops the subject and lets them work in peace? As for Ciaran bashing Jakub, I can't help but nod (and gasp at some of Jakub's comments) - for quite some time now. Regards, -- Andrej -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: reduce conflicts, separate keywording from ebuilds
Dňa Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:34:19 +0100 Bryan Østergaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: Anyway, here's several reasons why it's lame - I'm sure there's even more good reasons but these should suffer: Another reason would be that it would cripple (even more) the benefit of having all the relevant info in one place - the ebuild. Currently, everything is in the ebuild, except package.masks, which are in profiles. What OP is proposing would increase number of places to look for info from two to two plus number of supported archs. Not good. Please don't improve the current way of defining keywords just because some people got scary CVS conflict messages. Those happen all the time in larger repositories. Kind regards, -- Andrej Kacian ticho at gentoo org Gentoo Linux developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:50:02 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Won't waste my time on your trollish rants any more. Hehe, whenever you write this, there's always several more posts from you down the same thread. It's kind of amusing. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Another council topic for Feb
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:17:40 -0500
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
after all the pains we went through to enforce if you want to stabilize on
$ARCH, talk to the $ARCH team, how is this a good thing ?
I think Mike meant adding ~arch keywords - if you own and use ${ARCH} then
you may keyword your packages for ${ARCH}
(keyword, not stabilize)
As for the proposal itself, I'd add a suggestion to let the arch team know by
e-mail about it, so they can maintain general knowledge (better wording here,
probably) about their (~)keyword in the tree.
I don't think keywording happens often enough for these emails to become a
burden.
Kind regards,
--
Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org
Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for projects...
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:04:31 -0500 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Submit your ideas here, so we can discuss them. I will be choosing one idea that we think we can accomplish to test out the idea of Council-driven projects. How about unified (and enforced) rules about Manifest PGP signing? Or was this already finished by someone? I am referring to key size, expiration length, trusted signatures, whether I can use my regular key, or a special one, ... If this has already been agreed upon and covered somewhere, can someone point me to an URL, so I can learn how do it right? Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-misc/gtk2mp
Hi all, as of today, x11-misc/gtk2mp has been masked, and is pending removal around February 9th. It is unmaintained, deprecated, and somewhat broken. Also, better MPD clients exist as alternative - gmpc, glurp, qmpdclient, pympd, sonata. Kind regard, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog)
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:40:55 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce to you Miroslav fordforg Šulc. He is joining the über cool java people. Expect him to spend endless night battling with the horrors of bundled jars and sucky build systems. Welcome aboard, Miro ! :) -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-misc/cidr
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:16:25 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upstream for net-misc/cidr has disappeared (their homepage has been dead for a long long time according to archive.org), and a cursory check on the Internets doesn't yield a new home. Masked accordingly, pending removal on 2006-12-25 - 14 days time. Take this as an invitation to raise objections. ;) Best, Elfyn Why do against the standard policy of 30 days? Because it's christmas on 25th. :) -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] missing metadata.xml
Dňa Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:20:16 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: Actually, I don't mind much. There's a developers or two who keep on adding packages without metadata.xml all the time (won't name anyone, I'm pretty sure they'll find themselves here :P). Why? If someone does this, they need to be spanked - and for that, we need to know who they are. Kind regards, -- Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Commitfests
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 08:46:25 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what happens when you let a bunch of hippies build an OS. No need to involve council - just call Eric Cartman. He'll teach those hippies all there is about fun. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Professional Unpaid Gentoo Linux Volunteer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Ryan Hill (dirtyepic)
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:45:04 +0300 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce to you Ryan dirtyepic Hill. He is joining us to help with the endless x86 testing effort, treecleaners, and gcc-porting. Ryan, your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to that of Gentoo. You will adapt to serve Gentoo. Resistance is futile. ...in other words, welcome aboard! -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Developer retirement
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:31:32 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Bennett napsal(a): Which behaviour is this? All the gentoo mailing lists seem fine to me... The behaviour that _all_ other mailing lists get replies to the list by default when you hit Reply, just the _one_ needs to be special. It's been mentioned over and over again, and never been fixed... I don't care any more, if the reply does wrong way, complain to infra/mailing lists admin. Fix your mail client, and don't lay the blame on infra. I never did a misplaced reply with mine. Regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Developer retirement
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:10:37 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody explain how that one list is different from the others? Are the headers being munged differently for gentoo-core? This list sets Reply-to to direct replies to the list. gentoo-core doesn't. People who just hit the Reply button in their mail clients end up replying to the author, rather than to the list. Of course, a well-behaving MUA could just use the address in List-Post header, as that's why the header is there. Regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200 Natanael Copa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of gentoo devs always seems to fight? Don't get confused by all the flames. It's only 10-20 devs out of ~150 who are always fighting - and that's usually only on mailinglists, they work together quite well outside of certain hot mailinglist topics (day-to-day tree maintenance). Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jeffrey Gardner (je_fro)
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:05:16 -0600 Jim Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent, another member of the soon-to-be-famous Gentoo rock band! I think Joshua Jackson (tsunam) has already volunteered to be the singer :) What is it, three new musical devs so far in the last 2 weeks? Ahh, I'm looking forwards to new great hits, such as Catalyst Blues, Flaming E-Mails, or a lively speed-metal tune called Stabilize This! Anyway, welcome aboard, Jeffrey! Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer - Vlastimil Babka
Dňa Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:07:02 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: So, make sure you all welcome him onboard, and as he's Czech, I figure the beer is on him.. Uh-oh, the Czech conspiracy keeps growing! -- Ticho signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:36:14 +0200 Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this does not allow the actual maintainer to close the bug and causes a lot of bugspam for a person who does not care about it and should be only contacted in the end to commit fixes/patches/bumps. Shouldn't matter too much as a gentoo dev is still responsible for the package? of course he is still responsible. Does not mean he likes to get 10 mails about people asking for stable keywords and arches stabilizing every month. That comes with being responsible for a package in Gentoo. Live with it. Nobody shoud be adding stuff to portage without taking responsibility for it. I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. The maintainer can always assign me bugs if he thinks I should take care of them and I read and take care of them anyway because I am on maintainer-needed. That's fine and all, but it sort of sets a precedent - not everyone is on maintainer-needed. PS: mailing lists are a bit broken. 3 people answer me and ask almost the same and I answer almost the same again .. Then answer in only one subthread, and rest of them will die... :) Kind regards, -- Andrej Kacian -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:22:06 +0200 Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, looked at this. It's similar to stadard xmms posibilites. xmms-pipe have much wider posibilites. I use mainly skipping within a track (not to next track) so I can rewind without touching a mouse and switching to third workspace where xmms is sitting. Another frequently used xmms-pipe functionality is volume control (with software mixing enabled you can control volume of xmms independently from Main/PCM volume). Useful is also reporting info (e.g. about played track) to output pipe. Hello Robert, sounds like you might want to have a look at http://musicpd.org - in portage as media-sound/mpd or media-sound/mpd-svn. It does all you mention above (and more), and is nearing a major release (rc3 came out just today, I will be adding an ebuild for it tonight after I'm back from work). Kind regards, -- Andrej Kacian -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:42:27 +0200 Robert Cernansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank You for the tip. I looked at mpd also (only on web page). It have probably good posibility to control it via command line. But what about xosd support? (Which I mention in my previous post.) I do not see any info on page about it. mpd (and xmms2) is just a server that is responsible for music playback, functionality such as xosd notification can be provided by clients, one such example is here[1]. Perhaps there are more. What bothers me also, is that it has not plugin design like xmms. Support for plugins is very good because lot of people can write plugins for lot of things. This is why people do not want to switch from xmms because thanks to plugins it have so many features that currently no player is able to overcome it. That is true, but if you split the media player functionality between server and client, server doesn't need many plugins - it only needs to support as many media types as possible. Many xmms plugins I saw are frontend-related. This can be handled by MPD clients. One of main clients, gmpc, recently added plugin support, and already plugins for album covers or song lyrics are available. Also I read that it is not possible to play file without addind it to mpd's database.(?) It seems to be clumsy. This is mainly because mpd is designed to run remotely, i.e. not on your desktop - clients connect via TCP, so they have no idea about the filesystem on box where mpd runs. There are plans to allow this exact functionality via URIs in format: file://. Can it play streams from internet? Maybe I should install it and look at it more closely. Yes, and what's more, the development version (release candidates too) is also able to act as an icecast source, thus mpd+icecast2 can act as a streaming server. I'm usually listening to music streamed from my home box via an openvpn tunnel at work. :) Also, mpd has gapless output by default, iirc. 1. http://www.musicpd.org/forum/index.php?topic=1189 -- Andrej -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007
Dňa Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:21:38 +0200 Jan Kundrát [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: I'd like to nominate Andrej Kacian (ticho). He's quite a silent dev (speaking about -dev and -core flamefests :) ), so chances are that he won't go bananas. He also wrote nice articles about his hiking activities so I think he'll be a good candidate, now from the CZ-SK conspiracy :) Thank you, Jan, but I have to respectfully refuse the nomination, as the council simply isn't what I'd like to be part of in Gentoo. I'd rather keep working only on the portage tree, with whatever little time I currently have for it, continuing to ignore Gentoo politics. Kind regard, -- Andrej signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:41:09 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's actually how I read the first email, was that it's really the majority of the _minor_ packages that get completely neglected, and just sits in the tree for months or years marked unstable because nobody cares. The people that use it have marked it ~arch a long time ago in their package.keywords because they know it works just fine. Well, we would hope that people using the package would file a bug, but this obviously doesn't always happen. It indeed doesn't - I have quite a few friends who complained to me that package xxx is still in ~arch despite being in the tree for a long time, and when I asked them if they filed a bug to ask for stabilization, they reply that they didn't know it could be done this way, or worse, that they simply do not have time for such thing (!!!). -- Andrej -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:07:45 +0200 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls from certain people, I will retract my resignation for the final time. I'm fairly new to Gentoo, but I'd like to help. So, what shall I do ? You can start by not hijacking mailing list threads. Or am I the only one failing to see how is this connected to Jory's (retracted) resignation ? Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:03:32 +0200 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But: * I'm fairly new here and not familar with the development and qm process yet, so I need some assistance. Anything still onclear on my last posting ? My apologies, Enrico, for snapping out on you. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:14:02 -0400 Daniel Ostrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I do ask...Lets all start now getting used to calling the portage tree something different. I'm all for terms like the tree or the ebuild tree or the package tree but at this point, given the prompting subject matter, the idea of it being a tree which belongs to portage seems outdated. This may seem like a small thing (like the teams vs. herds argument that has been brought up countless times before) but it is the silly little things like this that really do lower the mental bar for new and exciting things to happen. On related note, why virtual/portage ? Why not virtual/packagemanager, or something like that? -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Sharing portage?
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:02:59 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want the tree to be writable, too, so that you can sync from any machine and also because of distfiles. Or you can put distfiles dir outside of portage by adjusting the $DISTDIR variable in make.conf. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] User Relations Co-lead
On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 02:05:42 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my pleasure to inform you that after much discussion I can announce that Joshua Jackson (tsunam) has come onboard to act as my co-lead in Userrel[1]. Will that result in dramatic increase of anime smilies in Gentoo environment? ^_^ -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo theming during bootup
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:21:14 -0400 Curtis Napier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead, I'm now the Web Coordinator. I proposed this new role to the Infra Leads and met no resistance or objections so I have taken the initiative and created the role. Also, neysx and I together were approached and offered to be the new www node administrators as a team. Of course we both said yes. Official Infra Monkey at last! :D Congrats on your newly acquired monkeyship - here, have a banana! :) I'd like to say that I myself appreciate your efforts (which are nicely described in detail in parent post) very much, and wish you good luck. I'm sure the rest of the team feels the same, I just felt like saying it. :) I'm looking forward to see the magic happen! Kind regards, -- Andrej -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] media-gfx/sodipodi
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:42:50 -0300 Marcelo Góes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/2/06, Carsten Lohrke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not the case. At least unless the user actively looks at package.mask. Since Portage doesn't provide the information, this point is void. And even if - four weeks are a too long, imho. I still do not understand what the rush is with removing a package. Readding a package if necessary will be much more troublesome than just keeping it masked for a month. I believe this is the general consensus on the subject. +1 on this one. Give people (and developers) time, not everybody is lightning's younger brother like you seem to be. Contrary to popular belief, there actually *are* people who sync less often than once per week. It's not like package.mask-ed package hurts anyone. I can't see what's the rush here either. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support
Dňa Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:15:37 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: Yeah, and the point is? It happens every day, there are already tons of third-party overlays used by Gentoo users, but once this thread about official overlays started, you came here to tell us wow, this all will cause terrible borkage and flood developers w/ tons of stupid invalid bugs, we need policies? I really don't see how overlays run mostly by Gentoo devs would cause any more borkage than totally uncontrolled third-party overlays run by whomever creates and publishes them, sorry. One of the reasons might be that while many users have enough sense not to report bugs too eagerly when using third-party overlays of varying quality, they would do so if they were using an official overlay - which, with your no-policy approach, would undoubtedly crawl with bugs. -- Andrej signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Sandboxes
Dňa Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:23:14 + Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] napísal: On 3/24/06, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so we're clear, users would be able to create their own overlays and publish their ebuilds right ? Not on overlays.g.o, no. FWIW, this is already possible on ebuildexchange.org. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New Staffer: Christel Dahlskjaer
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:49:10 +0100 Jochen Maes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /me gives a hot welcome hump to christel now yer branded :-) I don't remember you branding *me* when I was new. :)) Anyway, welcome, Christel! -- Andrej signature.asc Description: PGP signature
OT: Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-lang/nhc98
Duncan Coutts wrote: nhc98 is a Haskell compiler. This package has been masked for several months because its memory management system makes assumptions that are no longer true on 2.6 kernels. This is not easily fixable and the upstream devs no not have the time or inclination to rewrite the runtime system. See also #46943. We do hope to get Yhc into portage when it is ready. Yhc is a fork of nhc98 with a totally rewritten runtime system and many other improvements. However it is not a direct drop-in replacement for nhc98 so there is no point in keeping nhc in the tree until yhc is ready. I there are no objections I will remove this package in a week. Duncan Hello, could you please use your @gentoo.org address for such announcements? Thanks. Kind regards, -- Andrej Kacian -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLogs and rsync time
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100 Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts ? It's doable in some way ? Whatever way will get chosen, a full copy of every ChangeLog should be made available somewhere (somewhere other than CVS Attic), for future reference. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLogs and rsync time
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:55:19 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100 Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | That said I can see only two ways to reduce the ChangeLog files (a | centralized one is obviously not viable) 5) Anyone who really cares can use the excludes list, and check the ChangeLogs on the web when they need them. Most users care, they just don't know about it. Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Peter Volkov
On Thu, December 22, 2005 09:41, George Shapovalov wrote: Please take a moment to welcome our newest developer, pva. Peter is joining to help out with netmon. Perhaps just a coincidence, but isn't this the same Peter Volkov who wrote the Volkov Commander, which I loved and used daily back in my MS-DOS (gaming) days? Well, I was going to suggest that, but then I realized that he would have to be 35+ at this point and to be from Kiev ;). Yes, and what's worse, I confused the name with Peter Norton - it was Vladimir Volkov, not Peter. :) Anyway, welcome, Peter! -- Andrej Kacian, ticho at gentoo.org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Peter Volkov
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:28:03 -0600 Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All- Please take a moment to welcome our newest developer, pva. Peter is joining to help out with netmon. In his own words, I was born in Moscow (it's in Russia). I graduated physical department of Moscow State University. And my speciality is physicist. Now I'm second year PHD student in A.M. Prokhorov General Physics Institute Russian Academy of Sciences. But that is not the whole truth. :) I'm learning in High Computer School also in Moscow State University. Well. I think no one be surprised if I say that gentoo is my favorite distribution. ;) Why? Just ordinary two sentence story. :) I lived some time with LFS and really enjoyed it. The only problem I found there was the absence of automation of package management. So when I found gentoo it was exactly what I want! Great! Thank you all. I hope I could help you a bit. :) Perhaps just a coincidence, but isn't this the same Peter Volkov who wrote the Volkov Commander, which I loved and used daily back in my MS-DOS (gaming) days? Kind regards, -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:39:43 -0600 R Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail under this rule. I'd like to start filing patches for some of the packages in this list so I'm interested in knowing what's worth fixing and what's being pedantic. Note that some of the packages caught by this test also install non-generic (thus actually useful) INSTALL document. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] aging ebuilds with unstable keywords
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:12:25 +0100 (CET) Daniel Ahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an automatically created email message. http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable has just been updated with 14406 ebuilds. Just FYI, it doesn't display correctly in Opera - I can provide screenshots if you want. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:51:25 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The attached GLEP is a draft proposal for the emerge --news thing that's been under discussion. There are still some TODO items. These are calls for people to weigh in with suggestions. Of course, suggestions on other items are good too... Before this, make pre-install and post-install emerge messages more usable, instead of having them lost among thousands of gibberish text in batch emerges. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:18:55 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Before this, make pre-install and post-install emerge messages more | usable, instead of having them lost among thousands of gibberish text | in batch emerges. Separate issue. That one's the whole elog thing. Yes, it is a separate issue, but it's an issue that's been around for far too long, and seems to be ignored, despite the apparent importance of emerge messages for users. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:44:17 -0600 Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems a bit unfair to me. There's a complete logging facility in portage CVS for a version that's probably not going to be released, but I believe that the logging stuff is being back-ported to the current version of portage. (Moreover, I would argue that this issue was never ignored, but it often wasn't at the top of the list for what our limited portage devs should be working on: see http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11359#c83 .) It seems I was misinformed about this. My apologies to anyone working on this rather vital portage feature. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Daemon users that need an actual home directory
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:58:51 +0300
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to solve http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109079. I
asked on #gentoo-dev and ciaramn said that we do not have a policy on
where to make a home directory. So I would now like the input of other
developers on howto solve this bug.
I recently had a /dev/null homedir problem for media-sound/mpd{,-svn}
package[1]. Clearly, user mpd needs a non-null homedir. As for other daemon
users, I guess it should be handled on a per-user basis - some daemon users
most likely don't need the homedir, but need to have something specified
in /etc/passwd, thus /dev/null.
1. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101662
Kind regards,
--
Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org
Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86
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Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites for avifile, vcr, zphoto, drip, divx4linux, quicktime4linux
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:33:58 +0200 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: zphoto: not maintained I'm afraid. Not maintained and working, or not maintained and FUBARed ? -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, x86 pgpe9YBpjsses.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:57:44 +0100 Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'd perhaps make sense to extend the DTD for metadata.xml, so that the maintainer tag has 'type' and 'organisation' attributes. This would allow tools to tell the difference between an entry for a Gentoo maintainer, and an entry for an upstream maintainer. Why modifying the DTD? We did something like this recently with mail-filter/razor, in agreement with $upstream, and all that was needed was the 'description' tag, which is already present in the DTD. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpYzxlW3CxkO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] lcars gets his commit bit
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:32:53 -0500 Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, After quite some time merely being an infra dev, lcars has finally taken the leap and gained commit access to the tree. He's going to be officially taking over sendmail and supporting other packages that infra uses, so please feel free to start shoveling bugs his way! *Grin* He is already receiving a very warm welcome over at net-mail's lair. We're glad to have you (our own sendmail monkey, yay!), Andrea! :) -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpC8KhneqJ8x.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] warning: no newline at end of file
Hi all, I've been wondering - is there any eclass for fixing gcc warnings in $SUBJ for C/C++ source files? I know it's upstream's job to fix these, and that they have no effect on the compilation, but all there needs to be done is 'echo $file', and let's face it - it looks nicer when the code compiles without unnecessary warnings, to both dev's and user's eye. This is especially valid for packages which have main development for Windows version, and upstream simply does not care. If there is not such a tool and there is some positive feedback about this, I will write an eclass for this. IDEA: merge this new functionality with fixheadtails.eclass and change the name to something like sourceutils.eclass, where possibly similar tools could be added in the future. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpRTJqlSDFhk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of aging ebuilds?
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 05:39:37 -0700 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] but the effect was that the top ten list was of little practical use at all [...] What was useful for me wasn't the topten feature at all, rather it was the list of packages browsable by herd and architecture. It allowed one to keep a nice overview of maintained packages. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgppOx234JcJM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-filter/amavis
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:30:37 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mail-filter/amavis has been package.mask-ed, and will remain so until next Wednesday, or until someone picks it up. My first mail never made it to the list, it seems, so again: mail-filter/amavis is no longer in the Portage tree. Rest in peace, or something. Hooray for amavisd-new. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpMIdbAYoDl3.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:56:20 +0200 Thierry Carrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, ChrisWhite in a protocol IRC bot. Also speaks a few million languages, including Japanese. Who's R2D2 then? -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpx401uApuio.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:21:20 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not create a voicebot that would sit in the irc channel (the subject would refer to it), that developers could send a message to, and that would automatically be forwarded to a team of developers. If the bot would forward the communication to all members and the requestor double action is avoided, and users know where to go to get voice. The voicebot automatically maintains the list of active voice team members. It could even be made to block users that should not be allowed to bother the team (for example because they seriously misbehave themselves). Why needlessly create more artificial bureaucracy than is necessary? There's nothing wrong with current system, except for one dev (one so far, that is) who seems to be allergic to non-devs, and should take a vacation or something. I too have in past voiced users who politely asked to be voiced, and stated their reasons. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgp1FgjGic0v3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:54:20 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be an easy contact point for users. The other way would certainly be still allowed, but it might be easier if there was a fixed contact even if that is actually multiple people. Just out of curiosity - what's wrong with any active (as in irc activity) dev as a contact? Why limit this feature to selected few? -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpxNLpDtDVgA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:03:44 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that not a win/win situation? Where exactly is the bureaucracy? Maybe I used wrong term - I was thinking about time and effort spent on setting up and maintaining the ircbot. I've been in charge of a large botnet in the past (along with quite a lot of tcl scripting), so I know it's not hard, but still... -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpwBYeAHWOWu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:33:01 -0400 Luis F. Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this idea. I actually proposed a similar idea time ago in #-dev , but instead of doing it from bugzilla, to do it from the web site, (i like yours better) the main idea is to have a list of unmantained packages (no herd, no mantainer), so we can avoid surprises, and it'd be easier for users and for new developers aspirants to know what they can cooperate with. http://bugday.gentoo.org has that functionality, partiall - except that noone has the time/motivation to update it regularly. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpFGnasWh3Tw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:36:09 +0200 Maurice van der Pot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I definitely would like to see this. Just a few days ago I was considering adding a comment along the lines of we need a maintainer for this package, that's why nothing is happening to some bug reports. NEEDMAINTAINER is clearly a neater solution. Indeed, and having such resolution available prevents all those nee maintainer kind of typo annoyances. :) -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpfPCQmEBOFr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-filter/amavis
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 00:06:41 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:39:41 +0200 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As this package doesn't seem to be actively maintained upstream (and people on amavis-user mailinglist suggest everyone upgrading to amavisd-new), has some open bugs[1][2][3] about it, and noone seems to be maintaining the ebuild itself, we (net- mail) would like to get rid of it, unless someone steps up and gets it into shape. Of course, I forgot to include URLs... 1. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37225 2. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9 3. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64778 mail-filter/amavis has been package.mask-ed, and will remain so until next Wednesday, or until someone picks it up. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgp5CcWDcFq9I.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-filter/amavis
As this package doesn't seem to be actively maintained upstream (and people on amavis-user mailinglist suggest everyone upgrading to amavisd-new), has some open bugs[1][2][3] about it, and noone seems to be maintaining the ebuild itself, we (net- mail) would like to get rid of it, unless someone steps up and gets it into shape. The deadline is, say, next Wednesday. P.S.: merlin, I remember you voicing an interest in the state of the ebuild some time ago, maybe you'd like to take it? -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgp135GeSiQw3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] .keep files
On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:37:53 -0700 Drake Wyrm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought that they were to keep 'emerge unmerge' from removing an empty directory, but I could be wrong... That, and to keep portage from removing empty directories during the post-merge clean phase. Were it not for the .keep files, portage would cheerfully remove any empty directories the first time the package was upgraded. Wouldn't it be possible for portage to just compare a dir in live filesystem and in the emerge image, and if the dir in image contains .keep file, the live dir wouldn't get deleted? -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpQzkeGq0OsM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] .keep files
Are .keep files necessary in a live filesystem? AFAIK they're only there to keep portage from removing a directory from emerge-time image. Would it be possible to just remove them from live filesystem after package files are merged to / ? Or do .keep files serve another purpose, not obvious to me? -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpotXu3dTmB1.pgp Description: PGP signature
