Re: [gentoo-dev] So...
On Monday 16 July 2007 19:12, Roy Marples wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:06:37 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it's 97 degrees outside.. it's pretty hot... Since everyone loves to debate non-technical things on this list.. Let's debate Fahrenheit vs Celcius... Discuss! Sorry, but on topic posts are not allowed here. It's been 42 degrees Celsius in Bucharest Romania. Like Jamie [Mythbusters] used to say: You'd fry ... you'd boil.. Well ... I'm dying ... -- Catalin Z. Alexandru, Executive Editor; E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mobile : 0726.683.373; Web : http://www.theg33ks.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] So...
On Monday 16 July 2007 19:27, Vlastimil Babka wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doug Goldstein wrote: So it's 97 degrees outside.. it's pretty hot... Since everyone loves to debate non-technical things on this list.. Let's debate Fahrenheit vs Celcius... Discuss! I don't care, as long as the temperature is somewhere in the middle of linear scale between freezing water and average healthy human body temperature. And not higher than the latter, as nowadays! - -- Vlastimil Babka (Caster) Gentoo/Java -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGm8antbrAj05h3oQRAsB2AJ4tmemfppz36p5wUnFS7uTvXwObdQCglSsG C93JXdRGdMDLwteYd9p3ZeI= =ElDz -END PGP SIGNATURE- For all those damned SUVs out there ... -- Catalin Z. Alexandru, Executive Editor; E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mobile : 0726.683.373; Web : http://www.theg33ks.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] net-dialup/pppoed pending for removal
So how are we going to connect to PPP after the removal? I'm using the 2.6 kernel, but stil use /usr/sbin/pppoe-start Well? On Sunday 15 April 2007 11:16, Alin Năstac wrote: pppoed is a user space implementation of PPPoE, needed only for kernel versions 2.4. Since we don't have such kernel versions in our tree anymore, I've hard masked it and I intend to remove it on May the 15th. pgpMLdmS5zGoa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] net-dialup/pppoed pending for removal
Yes :D. Sorry, I confused the two things. On Sunday 15 April 2007 11:37, Christoph Mende wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:13:24 + Catalin Zamfir Alexandru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how are we going to connect to PPP after the removal? I'm using the 2.6 kernel, but stil use /usr/sbin/pppoe-start Well? [N] net-dialup/rp-pppoe (3.8-r1): A user-mode PPPoE client and server suite for Linux And I guess that's already what you're using ; pgpg70h3M8VdI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract
On Sunday 25 March 2007 21:46, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how about the following addition to the Social Contract? headingWe will be run by the Development Community/ Gentoo will be run by the development community. We will never allow ourselves to be reliant upon a single sponsor or corporation. i think this whole idea is a moot point anyways ... go visit the Gentoo Foundation web site and see Chapter 2 Section 5 And how exactly does this help us in the event of say the OSL burning down or the GNi suffering flooding? :) My point was simply that I think we would be wise to research whether there is the possibility of spreading our critical infrastructure a bit better so that in the event of an Act of God or suchlike we wouldn't find ourselves losing everything to, say, water damage. I agree, adding a line to the social contract won't magically send our servers across the world and into the homes^Wdatacenters of hundreds of wonderful new sponsors. Would be nice if it did though! For anyone, I can host a mirror for gentoo.org. Just contact me. pgpaS1humtNVq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project,Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?
On Monday 26 March 2007 15:05, Alec Warner wrote: First off, this is not a discussion on why XML sucks, or why we shouldn't be using XML or anything like that. This is not a discussion about what we should be using instead of XML. This is a discussion about using XML for our webpages. Many projects have old and nasty webpages. This has been a problem within gentoo since before I arrived and probably has been a problem since we started having webpages. One of the issues I wish to address is whether or not writing webpages in XML (Guide or Project or something_else) is just too much of a barrier for many people. I've personally always been pretty much a 'copy something that works and edit the bits I need' kind of a guy. There is certainly a large body of work to steal^H^H^H^H^Hcopy from. However when something you are working on doesn't fit inside of something that has already been done it becomes very difficult to make it 'fit' into our existing XML structure. This forces you to either ask for help from the masters of GuideXML (aka the Docs team) or try and figure out how the hell to write the xsl and dtd's yourself, or give up. Personally I think most people end up at the latter case (the giving up one). I know developers that won't even touch any webpages at all; I can only assume that they just hate XML long time and find the whole issue of writing pages complicated and burdoning. So this is getting pretty long winded; my basic question is do you as a developer find writing web pages to be confusing or difficult? Is there not a good tutorial for learning our webpage XML syntax? Do you find that you bump up against restrictions in the DTD or other problems that prevent you from expressing yourself properly? Do you have any idea how to actually go about extending GuideXML (or the other XML's we provide) Have you ever tried? Could we improve training with regards to any of this? Thanks, -Alec It ain't my business to talk on XML, as I'm not a Gentoo Web Developer, but personally I think that XML is one of the easiest SGMLs to learn, in comparison to the strict HTML 4.01, MathML or any other. Plus, XML allows for really good administration for the content and separates between code and content. Thus, the content contained in XML can be exported to about any other form of representation. Some PHP and XML for rendering pages would be just the bomb at maintaining a good gentoo.org website. That's my opinion ... pgp7SJwiS4YIs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] how to publish ebuild
Shaochun Wang wrote: I write several ebuilds for packages which aren't available in the portage currently. I'd like to share them with gentoo community, but I don't know how to publish these ebuilds. And I also don't know by which way a package will be added to the gentoo portage system. Any suggestion? My recomandation is that you submit your ebuild to the Sunrise overlay if they aren't profesionally made. We wouldn't like an official portage overlay that ain't 100% efficient. Maintainers usually write ebuilds. Why not join as one? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Fwd: RE: New developer: Antoine Raillon (cab)
Christian Faulhammer wrote: Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: According to Antoine, he's only skilled in Perl (well, that's going to be his *main* field of work in Gentoo). [...] When Antoine isn't in front of his computer, he's trying to read a bit, spend some late nights out with friends, or trying to get some sleep in when he can. What I don't understand: He says he has friends and knows Perl...something is wrong here. V-Li Don't think so. Although, I think developers are one a clear path to suicide. They should really be sleeping more. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
