[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/hwreport

2014-09-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
# Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org (02 Sep 2014)
# website not working anymore and will stay like this,
# tool is useless. See bug 504734
app-admin/hwreport



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in mail-client/claws-mail: ChangeLog claws-mail-3.9.1.ebuild

2013-05-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org:
   libnotify is only a fraction of the supported notification means of
  said plugin in Claws.
 
 Is the remaining fraction usable without libnotify on Gentoo?

 Yes. 

Regards

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in mail-client/claws-mail: ChangeLog claws-mail-3.9.1.ebuild

2013-05-13 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org:
 On 13/05/13 07:46, Christian Faulhammer (fauli) wrote:
  fauli   13/05/13 04:46:01
 
 Modified: ChangeLog claws-mail-3.9.1.ebuild
 Log:
 move libnotify usage over to notification, forgotten in last
  commit
 
  -   $(use_enable libnotify notification-plugin)
  +   $(use_enable notification notification-plugin)
 
 Why deviate from every other ebuild in Portage? From global to
 local :-/

 libnotify is only a fraction of the supported notification means of
said plugin in Claws.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: How help in arch testing work

2012-01-21 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org:
  4) Nobody knows how work all packages in tree, so there are obvious
  packages like a browsers, IM, audio player,that is easy decide if is
  ok or not, but there are also packages that an Arch tester has never
  seen, so is a lack of time everytime google about it or ask to
  maintainer, so, please specify what test you want for this package;
  e.g. -only compile test
  -compile test and make sure src_test goes well
  -make sure /usr/bin/${foo} works properly in ${that} manner
  -see 5) about library
  
  So, you can write one time 'how to' and copy/paste for the future
  stablereq; I guess I'm not asking a long and difficult task.
 
 what i dislike in this approach is that arch testers will follow a
 test plan which the maintainer has obviously tested before and knows
 it works.
 sending people into the jungle of 'try to do something with $pkg' may
 make them encounter problems the maintainer hadnt thought about.

 To stick with the Emacs example: We barely use all those packages we
maintain.  So sometimes we do not even execute this documented
test plan ourselves.  Of course it only contains a small subset of
everything, but some test plans contain a fool around with the
program and it is better than nothing.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emacs/psql

2011-04-25 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

# Abandoned by upstream, bug 364775
# Use sql.el shipped with GNU Emacs 21 onwards, which is superior
# Removal in 30 days

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-client/cachesaver

2011-04-17 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

# Mask for removal, abandoned by upstream, bug 363925
# 30 days to live
mail-client/claws-mail-cachesaver

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-cpp/libthrowable and app-portage/gatt

2011-04-17 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

# Mask for removal, abandoned by upstream with severe bugs, bug 363927
# Use dev-portage/tatt
# 30 days to live
dev-cpp/libthrowable
app-portage/gatt

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Save dev-util/plan9port !

2011-03-26 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Andy Spencer andy753421-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org:
 However, I am not an official gentoo developer so it sounds like I'll
 need a Proxy Maintainer to review my work and push updates to
 portage. Would anyone be willing to do this?

 Have you found one already?  If not, I could take that role. 

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-03-26 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com:
 I started this mostly to see if it was possible, and I don't know if
 i'll have the time to continue to work on that project, but I think
 gentoo really needs an automated way to detect outdated packages.
 This could also be a 2011 GSOC project (finishing euscan, and adding a
 web based interface to browse the results).

 Have you applied for a place in GSoC?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: virtualx.eclass

2011-03-11 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Tomas Chvatal (scarabeus) scarab...@gentoo.org:
   Sync virtualx.eclass from x11 overlay as per review ~week ago.

 Could we have some more verbose descriptions than that in the commit
logs?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla - New Default Status Workflow

2011-03-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org:
 We're almost done with the preparation of bugzilla-4.x for
 bugs.gentoo.org. So, do we want the new workflow or do we want to
 keep the old?

 New one, reopened is a bit pointless information on first glance.
 History tells enough.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: gtk 3 preparation work

2011-03-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org:
 Indeed, it is quite large, coming at ~1100 ebuilds. Hence, I've
 attached it instead of pasting it in-line. Unsurprisingly, some are
 gnome packages, and even a few maintained by me :p

 Claws Mail and plugins are fixed.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: About cups-1.4 stabilization

2011-02-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org:
 Since printing team don't want to use debian patchset, have you think
 in simply disabling that new usb backend? If I haven't misunderstood
 the problem, disabling it would simply make cups-1.4 behave like 1.3.

 We just postpone the problem, maybe 1.5 will only have the new one.
There is a news item in my todo file:

   Title: Upgrade to CUPS 1.4
   Author: Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org
   Author: Timo Gurr tg...@gentoo.org
   Author: Gentoo Printing Team print...@gentoo.org
   Content-Type: text/plain
   Posted: 2010-09-13
   Revision: 1
   News-Item-Format: 1.0
   Display-If-Installed: net-print/cups-1.4
   
   CUPS 1.4 is a major update in printing support and thus may cause
   some
   problems when coming from version 1.3.  Most users should see a
   smooth
   update, although only net-print/gutenprint and net-print/hplip are
   considered as supported drivers.  If you happen to rely on other
   drivers for your printer, you may have to research if problems occur.
   Local USB printers are known to occasionally have issues, which can
   be
   resolved in most cases by the following steps:
   
   1a. If you have usblp as a module (CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=m in your
   kernel
   configuration), you can blacklist the module
   /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.
   1b. Disable usblp in your kernel configuration by setting
   CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=n.  Don't forget to rebuild the kernel and reboot
   with that new image.
   2. Delete /etc/cups.
   3. (Re-)install CUPS 1.4 with USE=usb.
   4. Configure printer(s) from scratch via the CUPS web interface.
   5. If your printer is a multifunction device, be sure you got the
   udev rules
   setting the device permissions in shape so CUPS can access the
   device.
   
   If you still have issues, you can revert to the old CUPS 1.3
   behaviour
   by setting USE=-usb on net-print/cups.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: Portage should not mask packages globally, but only for some arches

2011-02-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
 On 02/02/2011 10:30 AM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
  W dniu 02.02.2011 08:59, Nikos Chantziaras pisze:
  It seems that KDE 4.6 is still hard-masked for x86 and amd64
  because it's waiting for ppc and ppc64 keywords.  I believe it
  would be beneficial for people if they wouldn't have to wait for
  arches that don't affect them at all.
   [...]
 
  I don't know what gave you the idea that ppc* has anything to do
  with masking/unmasking of KDE-4.6. Just 2 facts:
1) you can unmask anything by using /etc/portage/package.unmask,
  therefore nothing can ever hold *you* back
 
 This is about all users in general.  Not just me :-)  If putting
 stuff in /etc/portage/package.unmask should be considered the
 recommended solution for this, then we wouldn't need a masking system
 in the first place.  When something is hard-masked, it tells the user
 we're not considering it safe or working yet.
 
 
2) arches already have independent package.mask files, see
  ${PORTDIR}/profiles/arch/powerpc/package.mask for an example.
 
 It seems they aren't used though.  I mainly posted this because of
 the discussion on this page:
 
http://blog.tampakrap.gr/kde-sc-4-6-0-in-gentoo
 
 It seems devs have can't modify arch/powerpc/package.mask on their
 own? If not, this looks like a problem, delaying packages for all
 arches.

 Don't be so impatient...Debian users wait two years for a new major
version of KDE.  This is also a general hard mask for wider testing, it
usually gets moved further down the line to individual profiles.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-src cvs repo and svn repos migration to git

2011-01-31 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org:
 I decided to start migrating some CVS and SVN repos to git. First I
 should do a cleanup though, and see which ones are still active.
 1) gentoo-src [1] cvs repo contains a number of projects separated to 
 directories. Most of them seem really old and inactive. I'd like to
 point me out the ones that are either still used, or they should be
 migrated because they contain usefull data. The others will be
 removed. 2) There are a number of svn repos in svn.gentoo.org (the
 list is at http://sources.gentoo.org under Subversion
 Repositories). Same as before, I'd like to point me out the ones
 that are still active, and you (the maintainer(s)) want to be
 migrated to git. In that case, I'll contact you for any additional
 info I will need, such as the structure of the git repo or any hooks
 I should be aware of. Thanks

 Please do not throw away any repository if there is no conversion.
Mark it as read-only and obsolete, move it to a section where it is
clear that it is meant for reference only.  I think I speak for the
GNU Emacs and XEmacs team if I tell you that we want to stick to
Subversion in the emacs repository.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org:
 Just to clarify, we are talking only about the x86 architecture right?

 At the moment yes.  On the exceptions page I linked there are some
conditions under which you can stabilise yourself after permission is
granted:
* The prerequisites of stabilisation policy still apply.
* The architecture must be available in hardware to have at least a
 compile test.
* Several USE flag combinations must be compiled.
* Basic operation should be tested on the actual hardware.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-26 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org:
 I'd also like permission to stabilize fonts ourselves once they've
 cleared amd64 and x86.

 You can have it for x86 right away.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-25 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org:

 On Monday, January 24, 2011 07:31:20 Christian Faulhammer wrote:
  over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as
  well) has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark
  packages stable themselves.  As there never was a definitive list
  what exceptions exist, I compiled a list of the ones I could get
  from the top of my head in [1].  Please yell if you have those
  permissions so I can complete the list for reference purposes.
 
 how about we extend metadata.xml to avoid the multiple data
 locations always leads to bitrot ?

 Sounds like an excellent idea.  Who can add this?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-25 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org:
 I think it would be better if we kept a single list instead of
 compiling a separate list for every arch.

Mike's proposal sounds like the ideal solution.  If one wants we can
autogenerate a list. For now I will collect it manually and move it
over once the DTD is fixed.
 Can we also add a paragraph to devmanual about
exceptions or shouldn't we advertise that feature?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-22 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org:
 first off, drop the caps crap.  second, while *you* might be aware of
 a long history, you provided absolutely none in your first e-mail.
 thus it completely looked like only 1 person (you) was making a
 decision which had not been discussed with anyone else.  and having
 recently been placed into QA lead, you decided to use that position
 to force everyone else to agree. again, without any discussion.

 So now that all misunderstandings are cleared out and everybody agrees
that there was a failure in communication (both on sending and
receiving end), we can go on committing awesome stuff to the tree.
Thanks.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org:
 missing, we sent a plea for help to -dev (or was it planet?) and had

 
http://www.faulhammer.org/archiv-mainmenu-31/35-gentoo/293-we-are-looking-for-distfiles

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2011-01-12 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org:

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 13:17, Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org
 wrote:
  dev-lang/erlang
   Very little bug inflow, responsive upstream (subscribe to their
  -patches and -bugs mailing lists), great support from users.
  lang-misc is still there as herd maintainer, but hardly alive.  One
  bug open (compile failure in ~arch, upstream informed, package hard
  masked), which I would like to close on my own.
 
 I don't really know much about it, but I need this for dev-db/couchdb,
 so if no one else wants it, I'll take it.

 I passed it on to you as the bug seems to be fixed by a PLD Linux
patch.  I forwarded it upstream, so the next release should contain a
fix.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2011-01-07 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org:

 On 01/06/11 13:17, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
  app-text/rnv
   Near to no maintenance work.
 
 Besides the bump to 1.7.10... - in tree is 1.7.8-r2.

 Where did you find 1.7.10? http://ftp.davidashen.net/PreTI/RNV/ does
not contain that.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2011-01-07 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org:

 On 01/07/11 09:49, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
  Besides the bump to 1.7.10... - in tree is 1.7.8-r2.
  
   Where did you find 1.7.10? http://ftp.davidashen.net/PreTI/RNV/
  does not contain that.
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/rnv/

 Bumped and I dropped maintainership.

V-Li 

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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2011-01-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

I would like to drop some packages that I do not use or really care for:

dev-lang/erlang
 Very little bug inflow, responsive upstream (subscribe to their
-patches and -bugs mailing lists), great support from users. lang-misc
is still there as herd maintainer, but hardly alive.  One bug open
(compile failure in ~arch, upstream informed, package hard masked),
which I would like to close on my own.

app-text/rnv
 Near to no maintenance work.

dev-libs/qof
 Very little maintenance.

net-misc/tor
 A bump here and there (especially security fixes).  Upstream really
nice, there were user requests for beta ebuilds which I have no time to
provide.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Deprecate EAPIs 0 and 1?

2011-01-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org:
 rather than trying to build up a 
 mental stack of added and removed features across multiple levels.

 I always recommend the Reference Card which fits on one page and sums
up most features of the EAPIs (found as the last two pages of PMS).

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling auto-bumping of active Python version

2010-11-29 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org:

 On 11/29/10 09:35, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
  There will probably be no active version of Python set.
 
 You had two weeks to come up with this.
 
 Please find my on IRC to team up on an agreed fix.

$ eselect python --help
Manage Python symlinks
Usage: eselect python action options

[...]
updateSwitch to the most recent CPython interpreter
--if-unsetDo not override existing implementation
--ignore SLOT Ignore SLOT when setting symlinks
--python2 Set active Python 2 interpreter without
setting of main active Python interpreter if it is not set to Python 2
--python3 Set active Python 3 interpreter without
setting of main active Python interpreter if it is not set to Python 3

See the --if-unset option.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.5 unmasking tomorrow

2010-11-23 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
 On 11/23/2010 09:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 01:36:15 Graham Murray wrote:
  Mike Frysingervap...@gentoo.org  writes:
  well, not quite.  the way we agreed in the past was to not
  revbump the masked package, but once it was unmasked, we revbump
  it just once at that point.
 
  Is there somewhere which tells users when there are upgrades to
  toolchain packages which are not revbumped once they have been
  unmasked and in ~arch?
 
  if they arent revbumped, then the changes dont matter to you
 
 This isn't always the case though, due to developer mistakes.
 Sometimes when doing emerge -e system, there are changes in /etc
 files that affect runtime behavior rather than build behavior.  And
 it seems to happen quite often.  This is with non-masked packages
 though.

 Sometimes it is not a mistake but laziness.  Some minor fixes in
configuration files are quite common.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS

2010-11-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org:
 I don't have a long-term plan other than to stabilize the base system
 and provide n32 stages. Where it goes from there, I don't know.

 So I am sure you coordinate with redhatter.
 
 Though, you'd think with six members of the MIPS herd we'd have enough
 man-power between us to keep some stable keywords.

 I don't want to stop you, but you are relatively new to the real
keywording business.  amd64 at a point had over 30 members and could
not work on the backlog in a timely manner.  Think about

 * your long-time motivation, burn-out in arch work is quite common,
 * problems you will run on a minor architecture as MIPS - lots of
   patching,
 * reducing your keyword set (stable-wise) to a relative small subset
   and rethink your normal testing keywords.
 * proper documentation (handbook or elsewhere)

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.

2010-11-10 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org:
 1) authorship - I've added another line for the entire hardened team.
 I've kept my name in there because I'm the point person for the work.

 That was my intention, not replacement, though I should have expressed
that more clearly.

 2) bug tracking - I refer at the end to a bug which will track the
 progress so the user can look to see where we are in the processs

 Typo in last sentence: *tracked
 

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: mesa.eselect

2010-11-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org:
   * Accept numbers as do_set() arguments

 Taken from emacs.eselect

# target may be specified by its name or its index
if is_number ${target}; then
# numeric index, find the target's name
targets=( $(find_targets) )
[[ ${target} -ge 1  ${target} -le ${#targe...@]} ]] \
|| die -q Number out of range: ${1}
target=${targets[target-1]}
fi

 I would love to have more comments to explain in general and
specifically for the structure of MESA_DRIVERS.  The rest of the review
is mostly a matter of style.

 CONFIG_DIR=${EROOT}/usr/share/mesa

 Maybe something less generic as variable name?  Also the local x, y, z
variables could be named a bit more obvious.

 for y in classic gallium; do
   z=$(get_drivername ${family} ${y})
   [ -f ${MESA_DIR}/${z} -o -L ${MESA_DIR}/${z} ] 
 ret+=${y}  done

 I would welcome more if constructs instead of , as it makes the code
more readable.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites for sys-fs/dd-rhelp

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Wernfried Haas a...@gentoo.org:

 On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 05:36:08PM +0200, Micha?? Górny wrote:
  I don't think there's a reason to do so. We have ddrescue, and users
  should be encouraged to migrate to that.
 
 Ah, found it (sys-fs/ddrescue, not sys-fs/dd-rescue) and it actually
 does all the stuff that dd-rhelp does.
 I guess in that case it's a good idea to let dd-rhelp go (probably
 with a note to people like me who aren't aware that ddrescue does the
 same job these days).

 Added to the mask entry.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/pdfsandwich: metadata.xml pdfsandwich-0.0.2.ebuild ChangeLog

2010-10-22 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Thomas Kahle (tomka) to...@gentoo.org:
 tomka   10/10/22 15:11:40
 
   Added:metadata.xml pdfsandwich-0.0.2.ebuild
 ChangeLog Log:
   new ebuild: app-text/pdfsandwich
 RDEPEND=app-text/cuneiform-0.9.0[imagemagick]
   media-gfx/exact-image
   app-text/ghostscript-gpl
 
 DEPEND=sys-apps/gawk
   =dev-lang/ocaml-3.08[ocamlopt]

 Could you add a comment (if you know by any chance), why the
restriction on cuneiform exists and if there is upstream work going on
or not about it.  Also are gawk and ocaml no runtime dependencies?

 
 src_prepare() {
   sed -i /^OCAMLOPTFLAGS/s/$/ -ccopt \\$(CFLAGS)
 \$(LDFLAGS)\/ Makefile }

 Make this sed line die, just in case.
 
V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-cdr/cdemu: metadata.xml ChangeLog cdemu-1.3.0.ebuild

2010-10-19 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Peter Volkov (pva) p...@gentoo.org:

 pva 10/10/19 14:35:39
 
   Modified: metadata.xml ChangeLog
   Added:cdemu-1.3.0.ebuild
   Log:
   Version bump. Added nocdemud USE flag to avoid cdemud dependency
 #315491 wrt Michał Górny. 
   (Portage version: 2.1.9.18/cvs/Linux x86_64)

 Is there a reason you don't use EAPI=1 syntax for default USE flags,
instead of the unwanted no* USE flags?

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[gentoo-dev] Re: perl-5.12 news item

2010-10-13 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org:
 This will be committed before the arch teams stabilize
 dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r1.

 Maybe you should make an agreement with arches about a fixed date.
They signal their ok after testing thoroughly in, say, two days and you
immediately commit the news.

 Display-If-Installed: dev-lang/perl-5.12
 
 Run `perl-cleaner --all` after upgrading to a new Perl version!

 In my opinion you should move this sentence one or two paragraphs down,
to emphasize more.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: CUPS 1.4 and FFMpeg 0.6

2010-09-10 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

I tried to create an appropriate news item for the CUPS 1.4
stabilisation.  p...@g.o is cced.  Release deadline is Monday 13 Sep
2010, comments please.

Timo Gurr tg...@gentoo.org:
 If for whatever reason (broken/old printer drivers) that doesn't work
 out there's still the way to install CUPS 1.4 with USE=-usb to get
 the old CUPS 1.3 behaviour back.

Title: Upgrade to CUPS 1.4
Author: Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org
Author: Timo Gurr tg...@gentoo.org
Author: Gentoo Printing Team print...@gentoo.org
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2010-09-13
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: net-print/cups-1.4

CUPS 1.4 is a major update in printing support and thus may cause some
problems when coming from version 1.3.  Most users should see a smooth
update, although only net-print/gutenprint and net-print/hplip are
considered as supported drivers.  If you happen to rely on other
drivers for your printer, you may have to research if problems occur.
Local USB printers are known to occasionally have issues, which can be
resolved in most cases by the following steps:

1. Disable usblp in your kernel configuration by setting
CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=n.  Don't forget to rebuild the kernel and reboot
with that new image.
2. Delete /etc/cups.
3. (Re-)install CUPS 1.4 with USE=usb.
4. Configure printer(s) from scratch via the CUPS web interface.
5. If your printer is a multifunction device, be sure you got the udev
rules setting the device permissions in shape so CUPS can access the
device.

If you still have issues, you can revert to the old CUPS 1.3 behaviour
by setting USE=-usb on net-print/cups.

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[gentoo-dev] CUPS 1.4 and FFMpeg 0.6

2010-09-09 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

a security stabilisation for Chromium [1] wants Cups 1.4 stable.  My
test requests on Planet Gentoo and via identi.ca revealed no real
blockers, although people report that they needed to readd their
printers in order to work.  Does anybody here know an obstacle to the
stabilisation?  And should a news item issued for that?

The same goes for FFMpeg 0.6, although it is needed for a security
stabilisation of VLC [2].  There is one open bug which still needs to be
resolved, otherwise I had no reports of problems so far.

V-Li

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335750
[2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332361

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC Bugzilla interaction guide for devs editbugs users

2010-09-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org:
 2.2. Security bugs
   The developer should comment, but ONLY members of the security team
   should:
   - change whiteboard
   - add/remove arches

 As security may be grateful for any kind of help, those two actions is
often done by the maintainers.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC Bugzilla interaction guide for devs editbugs users

2010-09-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org:
 What about user issued KEYWORD/STABLE-REQ on maintainer-nee...@g.o
 assignd bugs/packages?
 
 Close as RESO/WONTFIX or add the arches?

 Common sense.  Practice has been to add arches if it fixes a problem
in a current stable, if there is no stable version available or the
current one is still ok, rethink.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org:
 The big issue with the docs is that IF OpenRC/baselayout-2 are marked
 stable, it will require massive changes to hundreds of our other doc
 files.

 Is there a list of the needed changes?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: mail-client/claws-mail-gtkhtml

2010-08-19 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

# Has a bundled library for ages (bug 221925), upstream does not care
# about that
# GtkHTML development is a bit stalled
# There are two other HTML display facilities for Claws:
# mail-client/claws-mail-fancy (WebKit) and USE=dillo on
# mail-client/claws-mail

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org:

 On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
   ~$ cat
   development/gentoo-cvs/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/amd64/dev/make.defaults
  
  i'm pretty sure all the /dev subdirs are dead now and unified in
  targets/developer
  
  in fact, i dont see anyone referencing that subdir, so i guess we
  can just punt it
  -mike
  
 Just committed that new make.defaults for amd64/10.0/developer
 profile. 
 
 @x86 Could you please do the same for your dev profile?

 It would be smart to cc the x86 team actually, and use the ChangeLog
file. I don't read all -dev posts so I can react to random requests.
Added.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-12 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org:
 sounds like someone needs to update/extend the arch testing
 documentation.  random e-mails posted to random dev lists are quickly
 forgotten.  new arch testers however should be reading the arch tester
 documnt.

 It has been added to the x86 AT guide.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-emacs/google-c-style: metadata.xml ChangeLog google-c-style-20091009.ebuild

2010-08-11 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

PaweA Hajdan (phajdan.jr) phajdan...@gentoo.org:
 pkg_postinst() {
   einfo Example usage (.emacs):
   einfo (require 'google-c-style)
   einfo (add-hook 'c-mode-common-hook 'google-set-c-style)
   einfo (add-hook 'c-mode-common-hook
 'google-make-newline-indent) }

 You did not receive my mail regarding the autoload stuff when you
asked for Emacs support?

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Security stabilisations

2010-07-18 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org:
 If relevant people already know the policy and act accordingly then
 why do we have this thread in the first place?

 Security is (as all the teams), badly understaffed, so sometimes
something like this slips.  It was a friendly reminder as it happens
from time to time and slipping security bugs is the worst that can
happen from an arch perspective.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Upcoming Council meeting on July 26th, 1900 UTC

2010-07-18 Thread Christian Faulhammer
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Hi,

Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org:
 I cross-posted this email to both gentoo-dev and gentoo-council mls as
 Brian used the former and Alex started this thread in the latter.
 Which ML do we want to use?

 What about getting rid of -project?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Upcoming Council meeting on July 26th, 1900 UTC

2010-07-18 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org:

 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Christian Faulhammer
 fa...@gentoo.org wrote:
   What about getting rid of -project?
 
  V-Li
 
 WHAT? Why??

 Because it is useless in my eyes.  All discussion could also take
place here and most people mix it up anyway.  The distinction is too
blurry.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Security stabilisations

2010-07-17 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org:
  please avoid having stabilisation requests
  like http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327877, blocking a
  security bug.  That way, architecture teams may not see the severity
  directly and it slips, leaving users with vulnerable versions longer
  than needed.  Thank you.
 
 perhaps it's a good idea to tell people what you expect of them
 instead. i presume just removing the blocker will not satisfy you.

 Do stabilisations on the security bug so arch team members can skim
through their stabilisation list by just looking for secur...@g.o to
find the vulnerable packages.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Should I file three bug reports or just one?

2010-07-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
 This won't work correctly for these three packages:
 
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs
app-emulation/vmware-workstation
 
 because revdep-rebuild wants to emerge them repeatedly, since they're 
 binary packages.  How do I report this?  Do I file one bug per
 package, or do I file only one for dev-libs/openssl where I list the
 three above packages?

 Check first if they have been reported already, then look up the
maintainers from metadata.xml.  If some have the same (and emul-linux-*
belongs to the same class) then do one bug for them.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: dotnet herd is empty

2010-07-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com:
 If possible I'd like to contribute to this herd,  I have little ebuild
 experience but I am a willing learner with a keen interest in
 Mono/dotNET technologies.  I am not (yet) a Gentoo developer nor have
 I lots of experience with ebuilds however I have taken an interest in
 writing them lately having read as much documentation as I could find.

 As a general example to learn more about ebuild writing: Use the
Sunrise Overlay where all your contributions get reviewed.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Adding --as-needed to LDFLAGS in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org:
 What needs to be done now is for someone with lots of CPU power to
 grab the list of packages[1], and build them one-by-one (all
 versions), adding to a new list all the ebuilds that fail. How to
 test:
 
 LDFLAGS=-Wl,--as-needed emerge -v1 $atom
 
 Once we have the list that fails with normal as-needed, we can fix
 them, get the fix upstreamed (if possible), and switch the flag on.
 This action should probably be accompanied by a news item informing
 users about the change, and encouraging them to report the (rare) bug
 which might hit them.

 And the stable tree should be safe, too. In general I like the idea.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Should orphan package without any stable version be stabilized?

2010-06-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org:
 app-office/ledger doesn't have any maintainer and has no stable
 version, also, seems that no other app requires this to be
 stabilized. I would prefer to keep this in testing until a maintainer
 really maintains it downstream, but I am not sure if there is already
 some policy on this :-/

 Generally it should not be stabilised.  But based on common sense
 (simple program, no dependencies), you could do it.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-06-21 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org:
 Having branches to do development and facilitate access and testing 
 seems fine, however we should always have the goal of getting these 
 tested revisions merged back into the main tree.  We really don't
 want divergent development to be the norm.

 Right, the extensive use of overlays shows a clear problem here.
Users could work on a branch of the normal tree to bring in their
changes, which gets merged by a normal developer at some point.  The
offical dev-lisp category is in bad shape (== not usable at all), while
the overlay is in great condition because of some dedicated users.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-17 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org:

 On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 02:00:02 +0200, Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org
 wrote:
 
  Hello fellow developers and users.
  
  Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the
  next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010).
  
 
 Chainsaw, Fauli and sping please.

 Thank you for the nomination, but my time does not allow me to attend
the meetings, and I am stretched thin anyway and cannot do everything
I want for the teams I am already in.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: bugzilla flags for arch-testing

2010-04-26 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org:
 How about the following instead, going into the status whiteboard:
 AT:x86:+
 AT:x86:-
 AT:x86:?
 with the same meanings that you defined.
 
 It should be just as easy to search, and you can do it today already.

 Yes, sounds good.  What is the best way to document it apart from the
various AT FAQs?

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[gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-12 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Torsten Veller ml...@veller.net:
   find ${S} -type f -name ._* -print0 | while read -rd ''
 f ; do einfo Removing AppleDouble encoded Macintosh file: ${f#${S}/}
   rm -f ${f}
   f=${f#${S}/}
   #   f=${f//\//\/}
   #   f=${f//\./\.}
   #   sed -i /${f}/d ${S}/MANIFEST || die
   grep -q ${f} ${S}/MANIFEST  \
   elog AppleDouble encoded Macintosh file in
 MANIFEST: ${f#${S}/} done
 }

 Are those f= lines commented?  And what was their purpose?  Can they
be deleted?

   if [[ -d ${D}/${VENDOR_LIB} ]] ; then

 Haven't checked, but quotes not needed?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Unification of variables used within SCM eclasses

2010-04-12 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

sorry for the late reply.

Michał Górny gen...@mgorny.alt.pl:
 a) Common variables - the variables which would have to be used by
 various SCM eclasses as default/fallback values.
 
 1. ESCM_DISTDIR (defaulting to PORTAGE_ACTUAL_DISTDIR/PORTDIR)
 - an alternate parent dir to all SCM stores. It would be useful
   if user would like to use an small file-inefficient filesystem
   for main DISTDIR or rsync it with other machine (where SCM
   files are not as important as the tarballs are).

 Sounds reasonable, though mostly a nice-have.
 
 2. ESCM_OFFLINE (most eclasses use it already)
 - a common switch to easily switch off all network interaction.

 Crucial, at least for me. :)

 3. ESCM_LIVE_FAIL_IF_REPO_NOT_UPDATED (similar to the one in
 git.eclass)
 - a common switch to force unpack() phase to fail if no updates
   were found during the pull/update.

 Something better named would be great...it looks just stupid in
make.conf.

 b) Common eclass-specific variables - these ones should allow user to
 override above variables for single SCM.
 
 1. E*_STORE_DIR (defaulting to ${ESCM_DISTDIR}/*-src)
 - already used by few eclasses, allowing user to change
   the location where SCM-specific clones are stored.
 
 2. E*_OFFLINE (defaulting to ${ESCM_OFFLINE})
 - allowing user to override global 'offline switch'. Thus, it
   should also support setting 'false' value to enable network
   interaction for single SCM.
 
 3. E*_LIVE_FAIL_...
 - another override for the global one.

 Ok with those.
 
 4. E*_REPO_URI
 - the URI to the main repository. It might be extended to support
   multiple URIs.
 5. E*_REVISION
 - explicit expected-revision/tag specification, preferably along
   with implicit one (e.g. in ESVN_REPO_URI) deprecation.
   This would allow applications to easily distinguish
   between 'real' live ebuilds and snapshot ones fetching
 directly from the repo.

 Those are not really user settings, but defined by the using ebuild.

 
 c) Common export variables - these ones should be exported by SCM
 eclass and stored in environment.bz2 after successful emerge.
 
 1. E*_VERSION (or _REVISION, or ...)
 - the version/revision to which the package was updated. This
 would be useful to determine whether the current repo is newer
   than one used when merging package.
 
 2. E*_WC_PATH
 - the absolute path to the last-used clone dir (i.e.
   ${E*_STORE_DIR}/sth) and thus the most probable location
   to perform further updates in.

 Portage team should comment here, maybe.  What is the use case for
this, honestly?

 d) Other:
 
 1. ESCM_CUSTOM_FETCH
 - this one is not directly related to eclasses but for use of
 ebuild authors. Setting this in an ebuild should notice applications
   that the ebuild does use custom fetching procedures
   (i.e. fetches from multiple repositories in a manner
   unsupported directly by the eclass) and thus external
   applications should not try to update the repository
 themselves.

 Use case?

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-07 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org:
 I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it
 just means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
 different resolution should be used. So what do you think about
 disabling later? I would like to avoid things like this:
 
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113121#c21
 
 Not applicable to the bug above but in general our social contract
 says: We will not hide problems

 Kill REMIND and LATER, introduce Later keyword or ASSIGNED LATER.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: bug-wranglers queue is large

2010-03-23 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Andreas K. Huettel m...@akhuettel.de:
 I can do a bit, I already have bugedit permissions from AMD64 AT and
 do bugwrangling for the KDE team. 
 
 Are there any written rules somewhere on what can / should / must not
 be done by a non-dev (not yet dev?) bugwrangler on the general queue?

 The bug wranglers have a project page with instructions.

* Always full atoms: category/package
* Dupe search

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-10 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org:

 All problems, which were blocking stabilization of Python 3, have
 been fixed. Stabilization of Python 3.1.2 is currently scheduled on
 2010-04-19. I'm attaching the news item for Python 3.1.

 Will add my comments for the whole thread here:

 As far as I can see, there is no danger to any program as long as
Python 3 is not set as system python.  As soon as the request is filed
I will install it on my stable systems and try it...for some weeks to
be absolutely sure nothing happens.  Then I have nothing against
marking it stable on x86 and will do so.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Moving packages to dev-vcs

2010-03-05 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Serkan Kaba ser...@gentoo.org:
 I'm hitting a repoman failure
 
 repoman: dev-vcs is not an official category.  Skipping QA checks in
 this directory.
 Please ensure that you add dev-vcs to
 /home/firari/Desktop/çalışma/gentoo/gentoo-x86/profiles/categories
 if it is a new category.
 -
 After hitting it for the first time I updated the whole profiles dir
 and still failing

 It is in profiles/categories, so everything should be fine.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org:
 As the primary maintainer for mercurial, hgsubversion and hg-git, I
 would prefer dev-vcs.

 Yes, I agree now, too.
 
 I wonder, would a Python re-implementation of git libraries belong in
 dev-vcs or in dev-python (it's currently dev-python/dulwich)?

 Up to your common sense (I would go with dev-python).

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[gentoo-dev] Re: New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org:
 Agreed, scm is a bad choice.

 So it is really tracked in
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56967 now.  If there is
anything to comment do it there.  Anyone can start moving the packages
over properly to dev-vcs (with profiles/updates entries of course), just
make it know somehow when you are working on packages not maintained by
you.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org:
 Is that a good idea?
 Maybe we should restrict the bug to status updates on moving and keep
 discussions on here?

 I don't expect too many discussions. :)

  Anyone can start moving the packages
  over properly to dev-vcs (with profiles/updates entries of course),
 
 There seems to be a lot more to it:
 - Updating eclasses?
 - Updating reverse dependencies?

 That is the normal procedure when pkgmoving a package.  So nothing
special. :)

 - Updating documentation

 A simple grep for dev-util/ should be sufficient.

 - Pushing news out to Gentoo users (and developers)

 For what? pkgmove should handle that.
 
 - Update package names used in Layman (my task)

 Yes.

 What else can you think of?

 At the moment, nothing.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Remove dev-status of mips profiles

2010-02-11 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org:
 I would guess that it would be far easier to work in an overlay at
 this point. I would also guess that if there are ANY mips users out
 there that they would have to use some other ACCEPT_KEYWORDS value
 because the shape of ~mips is so...bad.

 Don't remove an architecture.  Ask vapier what it means to reintroduce
it.  Even if it rots, mark it as unmaintained and wait for someone to
pick-up.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Major changes to gdesklets.eclass

2010-02-08 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Joe Sapp nixpho...@gentoo.org:
 Thanks for looking at this Christian.

 Sorry for the late reply.

 Patch to the original revision is attached.

 I am fine with it.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: X vs gtk USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
 A Gnome user probably has X gtk -qt in make.conf, while a KDE user
 has X qt -gtk in hope to have programs that support both Gtk and Qt
 being built with the toolkit that is more native to his DE.  When a
 package has a GUI tool that is able to only use one of those
 toolkits, people who have it disabled in make.conf will get no GUI
 tool at all even though they have X in their USE flags.

 Your proposal does not look to appealing to me.  What about people
trying to keep pollution down and avoid one or the other toolkit?

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: adding a modification timestamp to the installed pkgs database (vdb)

2010-01-17 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com:
 That probably wouldn't be possible. One of the reasons we want to
 ditch VDB is to allow multiple slots of the same cat/pkg-ver to be
 installed in parallel (which is in turn necessary to allow some of the
 more hideous dynamic slot abuses that people are after). VDB doesn't
 support that, so you probably won't be able to go back once you've
 started using new features.
 
 *shrug* all of this is years off, anyway. It's at least EAPI 5
 territory. We can work all this out later if EAPI 4 ever happens.

 As much as you love to have the new and shiny VDB2, it is far off.
Prototyping and drafting implementations would be great to have some
base where we can discuss on (in a civil manner).  So having this
timestamp would be a good way to prepare a sane migration path.  In the
end we have to care for our users and EAPI was just provided to have a
clear way.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: bash version in ebuilds/eclasses...non-compliance and what to do?

2010-01-15 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org:
 btw, latest python.eclass requires bash-3.2+ due to parsing errors in
 the regex checks:
 $ bash-3.1 -c '[[ a =~ ^(a|b)$ ]]'
 bash-3.1: -c: line 0: syntax error in conditional expression:
 unexpected token `(' bash-3.1: -c: line 0: syntax error near `^(a'
 
 we could quote these or require bash-3.2+ ...

 We discussed it briefly on the -pms mailing list [1].

V-Li
[1]http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-pms/msg_f4fee4c3a79ae4f37eaf4c4ebce6aafe.xml

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[gentoo-dev] Re: proxy maintainership and gentoo-x86 scm

2010-01-13 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

justin j...@j-schmitz.net:
 So what is the current mood to switch to git. As there is no traffic
 on the scm-ml I assume that there is no progress. But shouldn' we
 start to move on? Now!?

 Mood is good, but someone has to do the work.  And robbat2 cannot do
all of it.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-irc/bip: metadata.xml ChangeLog bip-0.8.4.ebuild bip-0.8.1.ebuild

2010-01-05 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Alex Legler (a3li) a...@gentoo.org:
 a3li10/01/05 10:30:43
 
   Modified: metadata.xml ChangeLog
   Added:bip-0.8.4.ebuild
   Removed:  bip-0.8.1.ebuild
   Log:
   Version bump, add 'noctcp' option to disable automatic CTCP VERSION
 replies. Remove old version (Portage version: 2.2_rc59/cvs/Linux
 x86_64)

[...]

 IUSE=debug noctcp ssl vim-syntax oidentd

 Please avoid no* USE flags, they are bad behaviour and will earn you a
spanking.  Use USE flag defaults if you want to activate it by default.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: News item for Paludis kdebuild-1 removal

2010-01-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

My proposal:

---
Title: Paludis kdebuild-1 Removal
Author: Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2010-01-08
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: sys-apps/paludis-0.44_alpha

kdebuild-1 was an EAPI used by the Gentoo KDE team and the Genkdesvn
project for various live ebuilds in overlays.

As support for this ebuild format has never been officially approved,
the support will phase out from the Paludis package manager.  To avoid
any troubles users need to take some steps to properly remove all
kdebuild-1 packages from their installation.

Users should verify that they have no kdebuild-1 packages installed. If
Paludis was built with the 'inquisitio' use flag enabled, you can use:

$ inquisitio -K installed -k EAPI kdebuild-1

Otherwise, use:

$ paludis -q '*/*::/[.EAPI=kdebuild-1]'

and, if any such packages are installed, they must be uninstalled
before Paludis is upgraded.
---

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Qt3 deprecation and removal policy

2009-12-31 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org:
 Just saying...

 Please track progress somehow.  I know it is a lot of work, but makes
understanding the process easier.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: clutter.eclass -- new eclass for packages related to Clutter

2009-12-30 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org:
 The eclass is attached, and is very simple, consisting of just
 SRC_URI, DEPEND, LICENSE, DOCS, and src_install.

 No objections.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Major changes to gdesklets.eclass

2009-12-29 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Joe Sapp nixpho...@gentoo.org:
 Anyways, a diff would be useless so I've attached the proposed eclass
 [2].

 Looks fine so far.  What puzzled me is the documentation of the SLOT
variable.  What is the motivation to do so?

* Sometimes you give a default on undefined ROOT variable, sometimes
  not.  Please make it consistent for cosmetic reasons.
* addwrite ${ROOT}/root/.gnome2: Is this unconditionally necessary?
  Or could a boolean in the ebuild be set to activate it?
* DISPLAY variable export could be done with the assignment.  Or is the
  export always needed?
* Is the file name LICENSE always used for the license or is COPYING
  for example also possible?
* einfo Installing Control ${CTRL_DIRNAME}: Is not mirrored in the
  desklet branch of the if clause.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] EAPI={3,4} offset-prefix semantics mandatory?

2009-12-16 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org:

 On 16-12-2009 09:29:07 +0300, Peter Volkov wrote:
  В Втр, 15/12/2009 в 19:59 +0100, Fabian Groffen пишет:
 Should an ebuild using an EAPI that has offset-prefix support
   make the use of that support mandatory or optional?
  
  I think no. Without real testing that package works in prefix there
  is no need to bother and create illusion that it does.
 
 Does your no mean mandatory or optional?

 As I read it: Optional.  And that is also my vote here, in the end we
have KEYWORDS.

 I'll remove all the bits from the quiz that are (no longer) relevant,
 and then post them, and their answers.  I don't see much secret in the
 answers, or do recruiters want to use some of the questions for future
 quizzes?

 Post it on -core and we can decide then.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: use.local.desc

2009-12-11 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

George Shapovalov (george) geo...@gentoo.org:
   Modified: use.local.desc
   Log:
   added local flags for new version of net-fs/coda

 Please don't add local flags to use.local.desc anymore.  They are now
maintained in metadata.xml file.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Code review and main tree inclusion for java-mvn-src.eclass and java-pkg-simple.eclass

2009-12-10 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Martin von Gagern martin.vgag...@gmx.net:

 Christian Faulhammer wrote:
  java-pkg-simple:
  In my eyes, defining all local variables at the beginning of a
  function makes it easier to read.
 
 Sorry, Fauli, i totally missed your mail as it was only addressed to
 gentoo-dev, while I've been intently watching gentoo-java...

 I am not subscribed to that list, so my mail would not get through.

 To sum things up: yes, I could change the local declarations, but I'd
 rather keep things as they are, unless you object more vehemently.

 No problem, it was a matter of style.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: A parting gift

2009-12-03 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com:

 On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 09:15:10AM +0100, Gunnar Wrobel wrote:
  ... I did buy the rights to my book back.
 Wait, you don't keep the 'rights' to *your* book when it's published?

 You sell the publishing rights for a period of time.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc stabilization todo

2009-12-03 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org:
 It makes it hard to triage the openrc bugs when when are on
 openrc-0.5.3 and there are openrc-0.2* bugs in the bug tracking
 system.

 Someone really knowing what he is doing is needed here.  And with some
time. Another thing needed is an init script for wpa_supplicant.

 A big change, so prepare a news item? I think Fauli already did this 
 some time ago.

 Yes, but I haven't found time and desire to triage the bugs as I
intended to.  The news item is in the archives of -dev.  Some of my
todo items like a newer stable eselect are done.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc stabilization todo

2009-12-03 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org:
   Yes, but I haven't found time and desire to triage the bugs as I
  intended to.  The news item is in the archives of -dev.  Some of my
  todo items like a newer stable eselect are done.
  
  What other todo items do you have?

 Actually:

* Doc updates, http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988
* Deprecated OpenRC http://bugs.gentoo.org/251730

The rest is done.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: ruby-ng.eclass - new eclass for ruby-based packages

2009-12-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org:

 The eclass itself is attached to this message and here:
 http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/ruby-scripts.git;a=blob;f=ruby-ng-testbed/eclass/ruby-ng.eclass;h=ce9a37440600c7913a21b5780a18b5e8dd9d712f;hb=HEAD

 At the moment I don't remember for what reason exactly, but we renamed
the PATCHES variable to EBZR_PATCHES in bzr.eclass.  You should do
something similar.

EXPORT_FUNCTIONS src_unpack src_prepare src_configure src_compile
src_test src_install pkg_setup

case ${EAPI} in
2) ;;
*)
die Unsupported EAPI=${EAPI} for ruby-ng.eclass
esac

The sense of this I don't understand.  You should not restrict EAPI
like this.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: ruby-ng.eclass - new eclass for ruby-based packages

2009-12-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org:
  The sense of this I don't understand.  You should not restrict EAPI
  like this.
  
  V-Li
  
 Why not. Quite standart way.
  19 case ${EAPI:-0} in
  20 2) : ;;
  21 *) DEPEND=EAPI-TOO-OLD ;;
  22 esac

 Microsoft Windows is standard software, tooyou want to use it?  And
if an ebuild uses EAPI 3 it will fail badly, while it isn't too old.  A
sane assumption is that EAPI 3 will at least contain all features from
EAPI 2 with very few adjustments to existing syntax and behaviour if at
all.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Code review and main tree inclusion for java-mvn-src.eclass and java-pkg-simple.eclass

2009-11-18 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Andrey Kislyuk wea...@gentoo.org:
 ... and let's say after 30 days from this email pending resolution of
 any complaints mvg and I will push these to main tree.

 You should review your docstrings.  Some of them contain overlong
sentences, which are hard to grasp.

java-pkg-simple:
In my eyes, defining all local variables at the beginning of a function
makes it easier to read.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-08 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net:
 1) Users using ** in their package.keywords file should know enough
 about what they're doing to use their own package.mask, as well.  If
 they're using ** in the keywords file, they're /saying/ they're
 reading to handle such things, after all, why shouldn't we let them?

 They do it, because they don't know what they are doing.  Just seen it
somewhere, heard about it.  During LinuxTag the question why ** unmasks
some live ebuilds occured at least three times.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-07 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org:
  * Masking live...
  Heck no. This is not proper usage. Just use keywords mask.
  KEYWORDS=. Problem solved and the package.mask is smaller. (Note,
  in overlays do what ever you want, since it does not polute the
  main mask from g-x86).
  
  True.  If we mask live ebuilds with KEYWORDS=, there isn't a reason
  to put them in p.mask that I can think of.

 Many users use ** in their p.keywords file and get a live ebuild
then.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org:

 What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization,
 even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team
 feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that
 can't keep up will be demoted to experimental status.

 I surely subscribe to that.  At the moment Brent (ranger) is
definitely alone on that arch.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-03 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org:
 This is way I keep asking for a complete report of manpower at least
 for amd64 and x86 arch teams ( and update the project pages as
 well ). We need real numbers so we adjust respectively the number of
 stabilization bugs we assign to them.

 x86 is at the moment three people active (maekke doing the biggest
load, armin76 and myself).  In the past I asked current members to
state if they want to stay on the team or if they leave...I won't throw
out anyone.
 amd64 is ssuominen, darkside and maekke, then some people doing
occasional work like chainsaw.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org:

 Some packages have new releases more than once a month and sometimes
 it's reasonable to not skip stabilization of any version. Given
 version of a package is usually no longer tested by users after
 release of a newer version, so I suggest the following change to the
 policy of stabilizations: Stabilization of given version of a package
 can be requested if this version has been in the tree for at least 10
 days and a newer version of this package has been added to the tree.

 If you do that, you will see arch teams skip those stabilisations in a
daily rhythm.  Honestly, who should do that work?  Having every minor
release stable is a big nuisance for arch workers.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree

2009-10-18 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org:
 Actualy i would like to hear what we in KDE did too, we publish into
 the tree as 0 days bump mostly since 4.2 and 4.1 was in the tree
 right away when we had working configuration.

Your bumping is excellent, no discussion here.
 Gnome does a really good job in figuring out what packages need to go
stable along with their newest release, maybe that is easier for them.
With the ongoing KDE 4 stabilisation, I have seen a lot of
stabilisation requests filed by Samuli, which should have been already
there, filed by the KDE team.  Figuring out what will be broken with
such a major release and trying to get the stable tree on par is what
eats a lot of time for us architecture developers...you can ease that
by researching beforehand (with a stable chroot for example).

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Add RUBY_TARGETS to USE_EXPAND

2009-10-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org:
 RUBY_TARGETS contains a list of ruby implementations and versions to
 install a package for, like this:

 Python has to do the same for 2.x and 3 versions...wouldn't it be nice
to have the same solution for both languages?

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Updated handbooks for autobuilds

2009-10-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org:

 There. I did the x86 and amd64 handbooks (networked, anyway; who
 cares about networkless). They're now ready for the 10th anniversary.
 I'm pretty sure.

 Thank you.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-22

2009-09-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org:
 seems smoltSendProfile doesnt work with unicode locales =)
  100%] x11-wm/twm-1.0.4
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/smolt/client/sendProfile.py,
 line 211, in module
  % excerpts
 UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position
 0: ordinal not in range(128)


 This has been fixed in a debug session over phone by sping yesterday.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-22

2009-08-31 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org:

 Alexey Shvetsov wrote:
  Hi all!
  
  seems smoltSendProfile doesnt work with unicode locales =)
   100%] x11-wm/twm-1.0.4
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File
  /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/smolt/client/sendProfile.py,
  line 211, in module  % excerpts
  UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position
  0: ordinal not in range(128)
 
 Sorry I wasn't able to address this issue earlier.
 
 I have just committed a patch [1] that could fix it.  Please try again
 with the latest HEAD and let me know how it works for you.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/smolt/client/sendProfile.py,
 line 215, in module  % excerpts
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 3:
ordinal not in range(128)

 Similar. :)

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-22

2009-08-31 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org:

 Christian Faulhammer wrote:
  I have just committed a patch [1] that could fix it.  Please try
  again with the latest HEAD and let me know how it works for you.
  
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File
  /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/smolt/client/sendProfile.py,
  line 215, in module  % excerpts UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii'
  codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 3: ordinal not in
  range(128)
  
   Similar. :)
 
 Is that after the patch?  The string should be plain ASCII at that
 point already.  That puzzles me, are you very sure it's the new code?
 There should be a new function to_ascii in there.

 Yes, it is after the patch.  The line number also changed. :)

 If it's after the patch do you have the time to play with the code
 yourself?  Is it on a machine I could SSH into?  It's kind of hard for
 me to debug this with it not happening on my machine.  I can
 fake-produce it (which I did) but I don't get your scenario, it seems.

 I only have some basics in Python, but I am willing to play, tell me
what to do. Unfortunately I am not able to give out SSH access.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emacs/cc-mode

2009-08-27 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

# Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org (25 Aug 2009)
# Included with GNU Emacs (since version 21 at least).
# Last stand-alone release in 2006; cannot be compiled with Emacs 23.
# Masked for removal in 30 days, bug 282662.
app-emacs/cc-mode

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-22

2009-08-25 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org:

 Christian Faulhammer wrote:
  That's a nice starting point to have a look if they aren't installed
  they are unpopular or because they fail to build (which makes them a
  candidate for removal).
 
 I'm not following - how would we find out about the reason a package
 is never reported installed?

 Own tests?  Bugzilla?  It is only to get an idea which packages might
be at their of life.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-22

2009-08-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org:
 I'm aware that with currently ~13,000 packages in tree and ~4,000
 packages in the Gentoo Smolt database the zero-install list holds
 ~7,000 packages.  With more submission I expect that number to
 decrease strongly in the future.
 
 With that in mind, what do you think?

 That's a nice starting point to have a look if they aren't installed
they are unpopular or because they fail to build (which makes them a
candidate for removal).

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 and nonfatal die

2009-08-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org:

 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:56:41 +0100
 David Leverton levert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Does anyone have any opinions on which of the four options (#1
  make die respect nonfatal, #2 make die always die, #3 add a new
  die variant that respects nonfatal, #4 make regular die respect
  nonfatal, and add a new variant that doesn't) we should go with?
  We should definitely get this resolved and agreed on before EAPI
  3 is finalised.
 
 I'd like die to respect nonfatal.  People using nonfatal should check
 beforehand that the functions they're calling won't do anything
 stupid if die's are ignored.  If there's something that absolutely
 has to die, nonfatal or not, then use a variable.  I guess that's #4?

 I agree here (yes, I know, a ME TOO posting, but I say this as PMS
team member).

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Summary and future of Gentoo stats server/client

2009-08-18 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org:

 If you have any questions or complaints please let me know.

 That was quite impressive, especially after you told me on LinuxTag
that you have problems to focus on a task.  Stats is a quite important
piece of software for some developers and finally we are able to use
the tool.  Please go on and develop it to a usable state so we can
announce it to a broader audience (20 sets of data are not enough).
Unfortunately my other tasks don't let me contribute more actively to
your little program.
 I would like to hear from the other students how far work went.
 
V-Li

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