Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts?

2017-07-27 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > When in the last 16 years was this 2 year period of running stable? > The general state of QA has varied quite a bit over that time. > I would say 3 or 4 years ago, roughly. > running unstable systemd has been Running

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts?

2017-07-27 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > TL;DR;TL;DR: > [...] Here's a data point you may, or may not, find relevant. in 16 years of using Gentoo exclusively, the only one time I used stable on one machine for about 2 years it ended up being much more of a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Are "Copyright 1999-20xx Gentoo Foundation" headers bogus?

2016-10-26 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Matthias Maier wrote: > And I see absolutely no harm in explicitly annotating the actual > copyright in gentoo ebuilds. It seems like a simple and practical enough way to go. However, one of the arguments going for assigning copyright to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] games.eclass policy

2016-02-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Well, maybe it's because you can talk to Python team, discuss and not > get ignored by them. We've already established the same is true for the games team. I'm a living example of it and I can't imagine I'm the only

Re: [gentoo-dev] games.eclass policy

2016-02-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > I was stating the apparent state of facts. If people are told they're > supposed to go with games team, use their eclass, follow their > policies, that's how it looks to people. That's an entirely different point from

Re: [gentoo-dev] games.eclass policy

2016-02-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 08:32:53 -0700 > Denis Dupeyron <calc...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > Not true. I've been maintaining games for a decade and have never been > on > > the team. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] games.eclass policy

2016-02-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > developers who did what they cared about and ignored everything and > everyone else. > I don't know if I'm an exception to the rule, but I've always had fruitful interactions with the games team. I never felt they

[gentoo-dev] It is GSoC season again

2016-02-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Google Summer of Code 2016 is starting. If you are a student please be patient. Your time will come soon, at which point we'll be able to answer all your questions. In this initial phase the audience is project mentors. Note that you do not need to be a Gentoo developer to be a mentor. While we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/x265: x265-1.0.ebuild ChangeLog x265-1.2.ebuild x265-0.8.ebuild

2014-07-29 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Alex Xu alex_y...@yahoo.ca wrote: http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/media-libs/x265/x265-.ebuild?revision=1.9view=markup#l9 Thanks, Alex. This makes more sense now. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/x265: x265-1.0.ebuild ChangeLog x265-1.2.ebuild x265-0.8.ebuild

2014-07-29 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: AFAIK, gentoo policy is that live ebuilds should always be masked so as never to be automatically pulled in without a deliberate unmasking of the live ebuild, but whether that's masked due to lack of keywords (ebuild), or due

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/x265: x265-1.0.ebuild ChangeLog x265-1.2.ebuild x265-0.8.ebuild

2014-07-28 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: x265-1.2.ebuild:KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~arm ~x86 x265-1.3.ebuild:KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86 x265-.ebuild:KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86 As in... You forgot to add ~arm to -.ebuild Wait, what? Live ebuilds are

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] last rites: games-fps/postal2mp-demo

2014-07-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: Last rites cancelled; found a version bump'ed distfile via icculus, so this one can live a little longer. I have once asked Robin to archive the distfiles for a commercial package which has RESTRICT=mirror. My reasoning at

Re: [gentoo-dev] The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:11 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: a) I'm not sure if I want to be in a team where vapier is lead. The only position you don't want vapier in is behind you. He humps. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:10 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: People often reply aggressively to unrequested reviews People often replay aggressively when they feel aggressed. Food for thought? Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites: games-fps/postal2mp-demo

2014-07-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org wrote: Ulrich is right. Abandonware just means orphaned works -- i.e. the copyright holder hasn't sued anyone yet. Gentoo should not have anything to do with this. I agree with you and Ulrich. That was a very poor choice

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: last rites: games-fps/postal2mp-demo

2014-07-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: So, RESTRICT=mirror would turn into RESTRICT=officially-dont-mirror-but-actually-do-just-in-case-distfiles-are-dropped-upstream-but-after-we-still-cant-officially-mirror-them-due-to-license-and-copyright-infringement-anyway

Re: [gentoo-dev] The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Please do not take this personally. I honestly wonder what all the fuss is about. There are a few games I've helped with over the years and I've never had any trouble at all having my stuff reviewed and accepted. And I'm a lousy ebuild writer. Every time I'd suggest a fix, bump, or new package,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Thank you

2014-02-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. TL;DR, this is basically just a THANK YOU to the Gentoo devs This is totally unacceptable. I demand you take your thank-yous back. Who do you think you are to thank us like this, even with valid reasons? Good

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: This is nothing new; the qa team has requested that commit rights be suspended before. I am just proposing that we actually add the parts of the old patch to the glep that spell out when and how this can happen.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights

2014-01-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: It is more of a Do we want QA to delegate this through ComRel or not?. Actually, no. What it is is a Subject was thoroughly discussed in the past, and a decision was made. More than once, in fact. What basis do you have that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: This information, by the way, has been blogged about thousands of times. There is a reason people write documentation. Contrary to blog posts, documentation is thought out, reviewed, maintained and corrected when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: Certainly. But it is likely much more interesting work and has considerably more impact. The mentoring period and the review have considerable impact too. Whether you think one is more important than the other depends on you

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files

2010-10-31 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: As decided in the last council's meeting, following the recent discussions about .la files removal, I'm sending an email to this list with a proposal for a plan to address this issue. 1- Why is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: I was more or less told to fuck off if I don't like the tone. Please watch your language, this is a public mailing-list. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd like to nominate betelgeuse, calchan, and ssuominen (no way you're getting out of here that easy). Thanks a lot for your confidence but I'll pass. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2010-04-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: I think that the packages that currently depend on one icon theme, could instead just depend on that virtual. For example, xfce works fine without the xfce theme, provided some other theme (like gnome or tango) is

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] Policy regarding the inactive members

2010-04-11 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello folks, Hi Markos. A small detail first. You shouldn't cross post as it makes things confusing and often results in threads splitting. I have no problem with that because my email client merges threads but it's not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Ben, Petteri was proposing an idea. He is being creative and is trying to help. The only way of knowing if his idea is good is to discuss it and later try it if people are interested. You, on the other hand, have lately been increasingly critical (which is good) but not constructively. You

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/11/2010 12:37 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: How about: You have lately been increasingly critical but not constructively at no point have you offered your contribution You haven't offered to help you haven't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: I mean things like immature political rantings are not likely to evoke the wanted response and it didn't happen here either. I know it hurts the eyes a bit, but calling problems by their name is part of fixing them.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal == [...] Can council please decide to honor the wish from developers to implement this? The council will be glad to vote on a GLEP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single individual project. And almost 100% of the time this needs to run through a GLEP,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Sure, it is the best way to make big changes Why then use anything else than the best tool when you can use the best tool? I didn't say that he should work on a GLEP though, but that he should feel free to do so, which is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: But while I don't do IRC, from various hints I've seen here, that hasn't necessarily been the case there.  I'm not making a judgement of whether that's good or bad and am only going on various asides I've seen here because as I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: What I was getting at is trying to identify what aspects of the whole recruitment process added the most value and which added the least, and adjusting accordingly.  I think that assessing attitude and maturity, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: I see no reason whatsoever to keep it open. How about this one: preventing users from filing dupes. If we start doing that, we'll end up with tons of extra bugs on our hands. What's the big deal? You know you'll be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: I disagree. Resolved LATER is useful to some maintainers that want to fix that bug, but don't have time or don't find the issue to be a priority at the moment. By marking it LATER they're acknowledging the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Jon Portnoy av...@eris.oppresses.us wrote: Which is all well and good -- the you wrote some ebuilds so here's your commit privs and @gentoo.org approach to recruitment worked great when Gentoo had a few dozen developers. Today QA is a bit more important, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Zachary nathanzach...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] but it would be much more enlightening to me to work on creating ebuilds while working one-on-one with a mentor. The whole purpose of the training period between the ebuild quiz and the end quiz (see [1]) is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: I think the problem is that our recruitment process uses the ability to answer complex technical and organizational questions as a way to assess maturity.  I think that maturity is far more important than technical skill

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 mask breaks significant science packages

2010-03-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Robert Bradbury robert.bradb...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear that the pending (0321) mask of Qt3 will break sci-misc/qcad, sci-chemistry/xdrawchem and x11-misc/glunarclock. I'm not concerned but I feel sympathy for those who use these packages and many

Re: [gentoo-dev] sudo vs su

2010-02-28 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:20 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: I am starting this thread because I don't understand why people are using sudo and su together.  They are completely separate utilities that do the same thing.  AFAIK, it should be either sudo -i or su -, but not sudo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2010-02-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder !  Same bat time (typically the 3rd Thursday at 1800 UTC / 2000 CET / 1400 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! Uh... no. The meeting is actually next Monday

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP58 - MetaManifest

2010-02-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
You'll find below an email from solar to Robin about MetaManifest. I'm adding it to this thread (with solar's authorization) as it seems pertinent. Denis. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Ned Ludd so...@gentoo.org wrote: Robin, I recall you wanted me to mail you what we talked about last nite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2010-01-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
(I'm resending this email as the original apparently did not make it to the list, although Thomas probably received it) Hi Thomas, I'm replying to the original thread below to allow those who have missed it to have the full context. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Thomas Sachau

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2010/1/12 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: Dont be joking, [...] Mmmh? Take a deep breath, a long walk, a large beer, or whatever works. Because you need it. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a modification timestamp to the installed pkgs database (vdb)

2010-01-11 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Brian, On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: The proposal is pretty simple; if code modifies the vdb in any fashion, it needs to update the mtime on a file named '.modification_time' in the root of the vdb. For example- 1) ${PACKAGE_MANAGER} fires ups,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2010-01-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2010/1/2 Pacho Ramos pa...@condmat1.ciencias.uniovi.es: [...] I failed to see if, finally, an approval from the council is needed for merging [multilib] to portage-2.2 or not The only approval that's required to merge anything to an official portage branch is Zac's (zmedico). He may have to

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date

2009-12-24 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: I will make it short, since i already requested it 3 times, did create a thread at gentoo-dev ML: agenda topic: Discussion and approval for following item: Adding real multilib features from current multilib-portage to

[gentoo-dev] Re: mtime preservation

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
A quick note to tell you that I have tried to look for examples of breakage due to how mtime preservation is currently implemented in portage. Unfortunately I didn't find anything, maybe because I'm not knowledgeable enough or because I can't afford to spend any more time on this. If any of you

[gentoo-dev] Next council meeting on 7 Dec 2009 at 1900UTC

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
The next council meeting will be on 7 Dec 2009 at 1900UTC. If you want us to discuss things please let us know in reply to this email. What is already known is we'll talk about mtime preservation and prefix. You can find threads about those at:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Things seem to be progressing nicely on this front. We have answers to the questions people had and they look satisfactory to me. One thing that I think would be valuable is a document that explains the average dev how to make his/her ebuilds prefix compliant with links to more details when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It looks like this question is still unanswered: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: How are dynamically linked set*id programs going to work? Denis.

[gentoo-dev] mtime preservation

2009-11-23 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I'm going to try and sum up the situation of the thread started in [1]. Feel free to correct me or add to the summary in replies. There seems to be two main ideas. I have removed the authors' name in quotes below in order to make sure we talk about the ideas and not who proposed them. 1- All

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Prefix: on EPREFIX, ED and EROOT inside ebuilds

2009-11-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: This is a formal apology for springing that onto you. Thanks a lot. Not everybody can do such a thing as a public apology. I will nonetheless ask the council to vote on the following during next meeting: Ask Fabian to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing kde-base/arts from tree.

2009-11-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm tempted to say otherwise it will be hardmasked with kde-base/arts by the end of this week, but that might be too intimidating for some. And completely unreasonable. Some of us have a life. Denis, wondering why the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-block/gparted: gparted-0.4.3.ebuild

2009-11-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm seconds away from masking KDE 3.5.10, only fixing gentoo-x86 in a shape it's possible. So sorry everyone for not stopping on every single package and metadata.xml. Just getting this done. Quantity isn't a

Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE Team Meeting - October 2009

2009-10-21 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/10/21 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com: 1. Proposition to split desktop profile to: KDE, Gnome, (and maybe some others). How about making a desktop profile with everything common and being the parent of Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc... sub-profiles with the specific stuff? Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for dev-tinyos/ncc; dev-tinyos/tos-make; dev-tinyos/tos-scripts; dev-tinyos/tos-uisp; dev-tinyos/tos-apps

2009-08-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Diego E. Pettenòflamee...@gmail.com wrote: # The rest are dependencies. The rest # of dev-tinyos might be added if it doesn't make sense # without these. Please last rite the whole thing if you feel like it. All my attempts at proxy-maintaining this have failed.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2009-08-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Sebastian Pippingwebmas...@hartwork.org wrote: I would love to see the GLEP on CPE names in metadata.xml discussed, http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg35155.html Any guidance on what I need to do to make it happen is very welcome. Please

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Ciaran McCreeshciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the issue here. It's both your behaviors, because they're extremely similar. Except that you seem to have more time available than slong to express

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran McCreeshciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: I contribute productively and usefully This should have gone in private but I want it to be public because you and others apparently do not get it. The fact that you're contributing or not does not give you or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #250853

2009-07-06 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hello Robson, On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Robson Roberto Souza Peixotorobsonpeix...@gmail.com wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250853 On bugzilla has the patch to solve the problem The people concerned by this already know about the bug and patch, there is no need to remind us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifesto archive

2009-07-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/7/3 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org: Yes, that is another thing I was planning to do. The only reason I haven't done it yet, is that older manifestos were stored as txt files and this year the candidates mostly opted for html/xml files. I'll probably just go ahead,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I'll have things to say about this but I'm still in the woods with dialup until monday. So either I can get close to a fatter pipe later today or tomorrow, or I'll do it on monday night from home. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-26 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org wrote: To appoint as proxy for a council meeting someone who has been booted from Gentoo is a clear lapse of judgement, and would in my eyes disqualify the involved council member from functioning in that position. As Petteri noted

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-24 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Thanks for the reminder, Doug. Make sure to also check everybody's manifesto here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council-200906-nominees.xml Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
[...] This list is for technical discussions only. Also, public mailing-lists are not for discussing your personal issues. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-19 Thread Denis Dupeyron
probably belongs in -project. Not even in -project, it simply wasn't public mailing-list material. For those who haven't understood yet, the -dev and -project mailing lists are not for keeping us informed of your random thought of the day or lamenting about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug 244436

2009-06-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hi Jean-Marc, On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jean-Marc Beaunejm.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to be a pain but I just wonder if I filled this bug correctly because nothing happens: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244436 I'm not putting any pressure in any way, I just want to know if I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: This is not a debate nor is this thread meant to be a launching point for people to promote their own campaign for being on the council and I chide you for taking it as such. I was just trying to contribute to the debate,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/6/1 Dawid Węgliński c...@gentoo.org: I nominate: [...] Calchan Thanks Dawid, and also Ferris. I accept. You can find my manifesto at http://dev.gentoo.org/~calchan/manifesto09/manifesto.html Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Hi Doug, I just got to this thread, so sorry for entering the debate a bit late. I find your propositions very interesting. In my manifesto [1] I have proposed something significantly different which simply consists in spinning the long discussions off the council meetings using more focused

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Wernfried Haas a...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd like to counter-nominate you Aww... That must hurt. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-17 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/5/17 Piotr Jaroszyński pe...@gentoo.org: I have just updated GLEP 55 [1], hopefully making it a bit clearer. Thanks a lot Piotr. Just FYI, my order of preference of solutions is: 1. EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (obviously) 2. EAPI in the filename with one-time extension change 3. Easily

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Joe ! How are you doing ? I've been meaning to call you but I've been busy as hell due to the move. Do you want to have a beer or lunch sometime ? Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Oops, that was supposed to be sent to him directly. Sorry about that. Denis. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: Joe ! How are you doing ? I've been meaning to call you but I've been busy as hell due to the move. Do you want to have a beer or lunch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Because the way Gentoo works, any objection to a proposal, valid or not, whether or not it's already been addressed, has to be answered before a proposal gets anywhere. Thus, every time people post nonsense

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)

2009-05-16 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Except that at the last Council meeting, there were complaints that objections *had* been included and discussed in the GLEP, and claims that including such material made the GLEP less clear. As unfortunate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SoC @ Gentoo - Universal Select Tool

2009-05-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
2009/5/4 Sérgio Almeida meph...@gmail.com: Please drop me a line here or at freenode if you have anything to add All I have to add is thanks a lot. I wished other SoC students would also introduce themselves and their project on their list. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] sandbox-1.3.x testing for stable

2009-02-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: i'm feelin pretty good about the latest sandbox-1.3.x (little stiffy even). little stiffy only ? That's OK, you're just getting old. Please come see me for your free prescription and directions for use of the blue pills.

Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories:

2009-02-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, George Shapovalov geo...@gentoo.org wrote: Besides, in my opinion, the ability to see what's there in at least minimally categorized way without having to resort to using some special tools or going to some website is worht something. In this vain I was

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Looks like you counted the number of files in the files/ subdirectories. Not all of these are patches. Also, you probably forgot to count seds, as some of us use sed more than patches. Oh, and like Jeremy was hinting,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the direction they wish for actually is. As a user I get the impression that there's some kind of evil Cabal. Most of the Gentoo developer population is made

[gentoo-dev] Interesting article from the Times Magazine

2008-08-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
From the Times Magazine : http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html It mostly doesn't apply to us as a community (hopefully), but one paragraph is especially interesting. In 1981, [Jon Postel] formulated what's known as Postel's Law: Be conservative in what you do; be liberal

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 - The Long Thread

2008-06-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a lot to be said about being stuck in the grand design mindset. I know many Gentoo, Portage, Exherbo, and Paludis developers are clearly coming to that point in their programming careers based on the comments on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you seriously suggesting that the portage and pkgcore developers think that they should be able to release a package manager that claims to support an EAPI when it in fact doesn't? Please stop your incessant and

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:58:40 +0200 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Usually in this category you put everybody that disagrees with you, no matter the topic. And what does that tell you about the average level of

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-08 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Roy Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before the flames start lets consider the Package Manager Specification (PMS) as an example. For this (very black and white) illustration, forget the council discussions to date and imagine that representatives of all three

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Ferris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think nominations are open. I nominate rane welp zlin Alright. Then I'll nominate all members of the current council. In alphabetical order: amne betelgeuse dberkholz flameeyes jokey lu_zero vapier Denis. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] LaTeX documentation

2008-05-13 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Alexis Ballier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah or maybe they dont need any unusual fonts; its probably sane to set VARTEXFONTS regardless. Probably it'd be worth adding a latex eclass that would just contain: VARTEXFONTS=${T}/fonts and inherit it from any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

2008-05-12 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ferris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This only occured since we have no full-time bug-wrangler anymore. Was anyone successful to contact him, yet? I am told he should be back sometime soon, like today. Apparently someone is in contact with him.

[gentoo-dev] New developer : Markus Duft (mduft)

2008-04-30 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my pleasure to introduce Markus Duft (mduft) as a new developer. He will go among us under the name of mduft, and will work in the Gentoo/Alt project porting Gentoo Prefix to Interix. Yes, people, that means Gentoo on Win32. Markus lives with his wife and daughter in Graz, Austria. He seems

[gentoo-dev] New developer : Chris Henhawke (bunder)

2008-04-26 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my pleasure to introduce Chris Henhawke as a new developer among us. He is a forums veteran where he goes under the name of bunder, and has been a moderator there for about 9 months. Chris lives in Hamilton, Ontario, and is a computer operator who does maintenance and support. During the

[gentoo-dev] Return of a developer : Josh Glover (jmglov)

2008-04-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It's my pleasure to announce the return of Josh Glover (jmglov) as a Gentoo developer. Josh will resume his work on CJK and miscellaneous packages. Josh works as a Software Development Engineer for Amazon, developing the mobile phone version of the retail website. He also serves as Listmaster for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in app-office/homebank: metadata.xml ChangeLog homebank-3.7.ebuild Manifest

2008-04-01 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Tiziano Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eautoconf is enough. Sorry about that. Fixed. Denis. ���^�X�����(��j)b�b�

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sci-libs/libgdgeda

2008-03-22 Thread Denis Dupeyron
# Denis Dupeyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] (22 Mar 2008) # Not needed anymore. Was only used by old versions of # sci-libs/libgeda which were just punted. Will be removed # in 30 days. sci-libs/libgdgeda -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sci-electronics/lard

2008-03-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
It finally happened. Last version was 5 years ago or so. From package.mask: # Denis Dupeyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] (15 Mar 2008) # Masked for removal in 30 days. Requires Tcl 8.3 which # isn't in the tree anymore. See bugs 172356 and 173467. sci-electronics/lard -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - the gnome2 eclass now has a pkg_preinst, if you do multiple inherits, make sure that gnome2_pkg_preinst is called too. The _games_eclass_ is one of those. [...] *Please* review these eclasses because with a simple

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Major changes to the Gnome2 Eclasses

2008-03-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you remove from that list vlc, pidgin and celestia which are false positives, that leaves us: Why are they false positives? They include the gnome2 eclass and other stuff, I guess they'll be affected too.

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