Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
2) EAPI in file extension - Allows changing global scope and the internal format of the ebuild a) .ebuild-eapi - ignored by current Portage This is the solution that solves most problems. Going with something else is just a way of doing it wrong for the sake of it. - ferdy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-16 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:01:40PM +0100, Steve Long wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:28:43 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: A big gain in the context of ebuilds and source packages. Well done. Yes, almost as important

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:33:22AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: Here you go (this is on an old machine, so you'll get much quicker times if you try this at home): A big gain in the context of ebuilds and source packages. Well done. - ferdy pgprSLpWrpb0H.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-15 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:51:32PM +0100, Ranjit Singh wrote: This is a purely stylistic issue, same as the braces with variable expansions. See my other posts. Your other posts only show that this is, indeed, a personal stylistic issue. And a pointless one, too. - ferdy

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 12:39:16AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: David Leverton wrote: 2008/9/5 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Both approaches are essentially equivalent but it's a little simpler for ebuild writer if they don't have to customize the output file name. But is it so much

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 14 Jun 2008, at 18:03, Luca Barbato wrote: trunk = .live nope it would resolve as foo_pre1 - meaningless. So your proposal is unable to handle that case, right? - ferdy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 14 Jun 2008, at 18:23, Luca Barbato wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: nope it would resolve as foo_pre1 - meaningless. So your proposal is unable to handle that case, right? You are forced to put a version, that's all. Which doesn't always make sense so we are back to 9

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 14 Jun 2008, at 19:36, Luca Barbato wrote: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: With your approach, we would have to fix the version after every 4.1.x release. That sounds awful, tbh. So: No that enforce people update the deps or at least gives one more reason to do. Keep in mind that -, -scm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 14 Jun 2008, at 20:02, Luca Barbato wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: On 14 Jun 2008, at 19:36, Luca Barbato wrote: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: With your approach, we would have to fix the version after every 4.1.x release. That sounds awful, tbh. So: No that enforce people update the deps

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 14 Jun 2008, at 22:18, Luca Barbato wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: On 14 Jun 2008, at 20:02, Luca Barbato wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: On 14 Jun 2008, at 19:36, Luca Barbato wrote: Bernd Steinhauser wrote: With your approach, we would have to fix the version after every 4.1.x

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-13 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 13 Jun 2008, at 10:43, Luca Barbato wrote: * What's the filename for live ebuild for SVN trunk/? What about foo-${version inside trunk}.live? And when trunk is unversioned? Upstream has an issue, still you know which is the version they aim. Wrong. Your GLEP has an issue because it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-13 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 13 Jun 2008, at 11:01, Patrick Lauer wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:30:54 +0530 Arun Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And why do you have to be plain insulting about it? Nobody can magically spot every single bug in any piece of code presented to them. In fact it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-13 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 13 Jun 2008, at 11:16, Patrick Lauer wrote: Then don't do it. You are doing a very bad marketing for the pkgcore guys with your whinnings. I'm not a pkgcore guy. If anything I'm a portage supporter. That I accidentally host pkgcore.org doesn't mean I'm one of them. Were you able to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-13 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 13 Jun 2008, at 12:18, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: We're writing a spec that's somewhat like Portage, but where it breaks Paludis, we prefer to get Portage to change it's behaviour instead. Don't crib about this however. We could just have easily have created a whole new spec which broke Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] eapi1 bug/pkgcore sucks thread [was EAPI-2 - Let's get it started]

2008-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 12 Jun 2008, at 04:16, Brian Harring wrote: Why the exherbo/paludis/PMS folk decided to go this route to report, I'm not quite sure aside from assuming they're just griefers. s-exherbo/paludis/PMS-pkgcore-g and:

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-11 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 11 Jun 2008, at 13:11, Brian Harring wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 03:06:17AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the channel topic for the exact time (but it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 12:30, Rémi Cardona wrote: Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : picard_facepalm.jpg I don't think any of us are completely thrilled by either proposals, but the EAPI-in-a-separate-file does have the potential for more flexibility, ie package-wide EAPI. And it does keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 13:13, Luca Barbato wrote: but I dislike empty theories or hardly searched corner cases that could be avoided with half of the effort necessary to get there. Yoy mean like adopting GLEP55, right? - ferdy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:33, Joe Peterson wrote: Luca Barbato wrote: Check if exists a line EAPI=*$, if does and the rest of the string matches an understood eapi, go on sourcing, otherwise ignore/mask it... And placing it out-of-band (like # EAPI=...) avoids any sourcing errors, makes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:46, Joe Peterson wrote: Also, I'm not sure reading XML is a problem at all - python has good libs for this already. Reading XML files is easy, but it makes certain codepaths much much slower. Not a good 'feature'. - ferdy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:48, Luca Barbato wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: No, it doesn't make parsing faster. Had you bothered to profile any package manager you'd know that. Do you have any number to share? What number are you interested in? - ferdy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 16:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:38:52 +0530 Arun Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] - it doubles the number of file reads necessary during resolution. The first read will

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:06, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Tuesday 10 June 2008 16:54:49 Richard Brown wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 17:39, Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, we should really only discuss features that all 3 package managers have implemented. I'm not sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 10 Jun 2008, at 18:39, Doug Goldstein wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So EAPI 2 is not everything shiny, but a small iterative improvement to EAPI 1. Suggest features then and let's discuss! For reference of

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 9 Jun 2008, at 10:50, Luca Barbato wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: I'm afraid you are mixing up emails from this thread. I got complaints about how wrongly the PMS is written, e.g. academic paper markup vs plain text, natural language used to specify syntax while a grammar notation like

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 9 Jun 2008, at 14:18, Luca Barbato wrote: The people who wrote PMS should be able to make the decision for themselves(as they will be maintaining it) as to what language to use. The main point being using latex prevents people from modify it. Your opinion. You don't *have* to read PMS

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-08 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 8 Jun 2008, at 11:12, Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: Hello, looks like every nominee wants the council to be more technical so I have a few technical questions for you: 1. GLEP54 2. GLEP55 3. Most wanted changes in future EAPIs [1] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0054.html [2] -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-08 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 8 Jun 2008, at 14:34, Alex Howells wrote: 2008/6/7 Fernando J. Pereda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Except you'd rather veto the ones you don't like. Hehe... It must suck being you, wanting to veto people and not being able to do it :) I trust the masses to do the sensible thing and not vote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-07 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 7 Jun 2008, at 21:21, Alex Howells wrote: 2008/6/7 Santiago M. Mola [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ferdy, thanks for the nomination. astinus, thanks for your support and inspiration, which almost convinced me for running for Council. Any time :) In which case I guess maybe Jeroen Roovers (rej /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-07 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 5 Jun 2008, at 18:09, Ali Polatel wrote: Łukasz Damentko yazmış: Hi guys, Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008). I want to nominate: Fernando J. Pereda -- ferdy I kindly accept my nomination

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-05 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On 3 Jun 2008, at 07:52, Ferris McCormick wrote: I think nominations are open. I'd like to nominate: Ingmar ColdWind - ferdy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
myself, honestly, I couldn't care less. Wonder why there is almost no non-mainstream arch team people contributing to this thread? - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpOiXoZzRjqH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-22 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
an opinion, then [then, sane people see how this approach gets silly] - ferdy 1 - And if you do so, please share Message-IDs, it'll make a great laugh. -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpJPPltHYsaK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 55] EAPI subdirectories instead of file name suffixes

2007-12-22 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
be neither readahead nor 'advised'. Which is STUPIDLY slow. So adding yet another directory to the hierarchy is quite silly. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgp2k93LGjnu1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
in paludis not being able to deal with whitespace in config files, so clearly something's up with your text-processing. Hope that's finally fixed now. Hahahahahahaha you just made my day. As usual, your input is close to worthless. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
So here you're showing that you don't know what a USE flag is? It is good he made it crystal clear though. Nobody has to 'guess' now. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpgzm13Sp0xr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-19 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 04:17:21PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote: Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: Mixing EAPIs can't work. Why? Because EAPIs can define colliding features. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgp90C5dzn9AZ.pgp Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-19 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 11:03:54AM -0500, Jim Ramsay wrote: Fernando J. Pereda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 04:17:21PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote: Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: Mixing EAPIs can't work. Why? Because EAPIs can define colliding features

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
a dev to manually mirror the EAPI in the filename extension provide any benefit over caching it behind the scenes (using the Manifest file or similar mechanism)? You are yet to show what kind of inconvenience to the users this proposal will cause. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
your solution is: --- 8 --- # EAPI has to be set differently based upon tests on PV if [[ -z ${PV/?.?/} ]] ; then EAPI=bar-1 elif [[ -z ${PV/?.?.?/} ]] ; then EAPI=0 else EAPI=1 fi --- 8 --- So please, no hacks. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 06:37:11PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Fernando J Pereda wrote: It seems to me that this will inconvenience the users, in order to solve a technical problem of the package manager. Absolutely, +1. This does indeed sound like a technical

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 07:45:44PM +, Duncan wrote: Fernando J. Pereda [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:56:32 +0100: And as we have now learned that EAPI strings are not limited to digits (see ciaranm's message) and may even contain

Re: [gentoo-dev] diff /usr/portage

2007-12-13 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:07:07PM +0100, smurfd wrote: Hi! i have not really done any research This is a very good moment to do so. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpTTgBfM3Ta4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
to me, though. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpvD1hATiv2t.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Phase invariancy and exclusivity requirements

2007-11-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
). In the second one, you can. That's the first thing that I can think of, there might be others. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgp0MO47jsszv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-print/cups: ChangeLog cups-1.3.4-r1.ebuild cups-1.3.4.ebuild

2007-11-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
previous message was only a seasonal reminder of the fact that we know that he knows what his problem is, although he is naive enough to think we are naive enough to play with him. So saying that a nasty hack is a nasty hack is not allowed these days? - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-01 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
think not using bash features in an environment where bash is required is silly, instead of being an improvement) but I find interesting that you ripped Ciaran's copyright while leaving the Prod ciaranm if you find something it can't handle comment. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.4 profiles are on their way out!

2007-08-27 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
on the alpha profiles reverted as soon as I get to my machine. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpWH5jgHzsRx.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
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Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 11:59:28AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: lu - that prefers less rules and more people aware. Couldn't agree more. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpliNQUioYQL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
that this is documented somewhere in the Developer Handbook... - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpNIXUsJJac3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 12:14:37PM +0200, cilly wrote: On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: I think that setting arbitrary guidelines that try to rule every situation is just *plain* wrong. Some of the packages I maintain are better removed when a new maintenance

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 06:36:31AM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: Some of the packages I maintain are better removed when a new maintenance version is released. And I plan to keep it that way :) Can you clarify this? What scenarios do you run into where it isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 12:53:16PM +0200, cilly wrote: On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: Known to be buggy versions. Of course, there are bugs in every version. Sometimes a user must be able to choose which bug is more problematic, i.e. the bug in the newer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intentions to remove mail-client/muttng from the tree

2007-05-26 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
in the next mutt's release. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpLM06XNH1eN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
that as: There is still some people that don't like it. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpHNh2nUjSs2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
to be because you have a vested interest in paludis and paludis does not support this syntax and there happens to be no reasonable way to support that? Incidentally paludis *does* support it. -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpiD6XCA1LY4.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-20 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
writing such nonsense here? - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpBJOIPchhLd.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-04 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:46:35PM -0700, Daniel Robbins wrote: [snip] Would you be kind enough to stop hijacking the thread ? You are responsible for this last flame... just quit it please. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-04 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
hate me, good too. Please go back to your hacking and improve Gentoo. You just can't 'remove Ciaran from gentoo-dev', live with it, or leave Gentoo if you don't like the way we do things now. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
deveveloper *thought* he had checked rdeps before. Result: some people (users here) got screwed because of misunderstanding. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpoTSmuR6fyG.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-06 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
! It is a good format and easy to write and parse in C, why change it ? Just tell people to stop treating config files like bash scripts and everything will be fine. Or am I missing something? - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-31 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
, and then you don't need the keywords in the first place). No. Arch Teams manage their keywords the way _they_ want not the way YOU or others that don't work on arch teams want. It is actually *that* simple. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-31 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
probably won't. I've tried to explain this at least once in #gentoo-qa and he didn't seem to *want+ to understand it. Maybe we aren't being clear enough... - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-31 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
and ebuild-maintainer and don't see a problem here... so from your _vast_ experience as both an ebuild-maintainer and arch-maintainer, what's the problem? - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-31 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
can start helping, right? - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpDeqfGu4dZh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-10-31 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
visual stuff like gnome, kde, xfce and their respective mothers, for years. So testing visual stuff remotely *is* possible. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpZgswJbGLmJ.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass (Take #2)

2006-09-11 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 08:32:50PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: Hi guys, We are planning to add git.eclass as presented in bug #132383 (as attachment 96300). I also attach it here in case someone wants to comment parts of it. git.eclass is now in the tree - ferdy -- Fernando J

[gentoo-dev] New git.eclass (Take #2)

2006-09-07 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
Hi guys, We are planning to add git.eclass as presented in bug #132383 (as attachment 96300). I also attach it here in case someone wants to comment parts of it. Please raise your concerns if you have any. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

2006-05-21 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 11:58:32PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: I'd like people who use Git eclass to test it and see if any of the 'features' I introduced break things for them. I just incorporated much of this into my version (minus some whitespace changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

2006-05-19 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
of bandwidth and disk space. Latest version is in my public overlay[1]. - ferdy [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~ferdy/overlay/eclass/git.eclass -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpkLlwXiUe3v.pgp Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
the good work with paludis. -ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpuETI11d9bR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-29 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
'. I hope that clarifies the merge tracking part. However I don't know what do you mean with 'changeset tracking'. Cheers, Ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpeQGlULeJE4.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-29 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:54:17PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote: On Saturday 29 April 2006 15:21, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: The commit marked with @ is a special comit called a 'merge'. I hope that clarifies the merge tracking part. You just described what merging is. Svn can do that too with svn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
. A deal breaker in my opinion That's not true at all. Not in any sane Git version. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpuShtf3rkjZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
'cvs commit' and 'svn commit' semantics. That's probably the reason you faced that problem :) Cheers, ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpZfPqD2Ec9B.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
repositories successfully. - ferdy [1] git://git.freedesktop.org/~keithp/parsecvs -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpEnrmtBVaXl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
trying to clarify those issues you pointed out about Git. I locally manage a couple of overlays with it, but nothing compared to the portage tree. - ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-31 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
-- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpTYXwfbk50K.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-26 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 07:57:43PM -0500, Aron Griffis wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 06:18:52PM EST] Well, I find it easier to understand than many other DVCSs out there... In fact I don't think it is difficult to use in any way. Maybe pre-1.1 versions had some syntax

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-26 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
' (default and best) merge strategy is written in python. Cheers, Ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpjs799au2ks.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
you screw your repo using normal Git commands ? Cheers, Ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpCufL8qSvGg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-25 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
that are easier to use and less likely to cause headaches. Now my other mail doesn't make a lot of sense :) -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgpgtULTTyX0l.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: If you show a wrong code snippet please explain _why_ it is wrong in the same email. Ehm you mean it is not obvious that calling emerge inside an eclass is utterly wrong ? -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-19 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
know how they work... but I definately don't think ours suits in a distributed SCM as Ciaran pointed out. Cheers, Ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgp4IZvukZIby.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
the issue. It's number of files. And not only the number of files... the workflow here doesn't fit in a distributed enviroment. Cheers, Ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail,mutt,git) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD 28D4 pgp79Jjh6Ig20.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Interactive emerge

2005-10-02 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
in the tree. Another | common problem is calling wget from inside test. Mostly this comes from | src_test being a fairly recent feature... When some of the ebuilds in | question were written it didn't exist. Ok, thanks for the clarification. -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net

Re: [gentoo-dev] The tree is now utf-8 clean

2005-09-17 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
to go and purge all of those, UTF-8 or not, whenever | my brain recovers. I hope ~ is not considered a weird character... if it is, tell me and I'll fix all my ebuilds. Cheers, Ferdy -- Fernando J. Pereda Garcimartín Gentoo Developer (Alpha,net-mail) 20BB BDC3 761A 4781 E6ED ED0B 0A48 5B0C 60BD

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-27 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 01:17:50PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On 27/8/2005 10:42:25, Brian Harring ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hola all. Straight to the point, I'm proposing that the following files- arch.list categories use.desc use.local.desc package.mask updates be

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-27 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 06:38:36AM -0500, Brian Harring wrote: You're masking occurs within the profile itself, not globally. Global masking usually is for introduction of new ebuilds that need testing and shouldn't be hit by normal arch testers (portage early release candidates for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-20 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 07:00:02PM -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: WONTFIX refers to the bug, not the attached ebuild. And it won't be 'fixed' unless the ebuild is improved, so WONTFIX is fine. Cheers, Ferdy -- \\|// . . . o o o o O O ( Born to be ) o o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 11:05:43PM +0200, Grobian wrote: Maurice van der Pot wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:28:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Bah! No I'm not, because Sven pointed out that it collides with the bugzilla resolution. So I'm going with CHECKED instead. Whoah! Isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:39:52AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want to become official. We are official. It's not just the way things should be. Well... you want to become staff. In that regard, you do not get to take care of your own things anymore. We will still recruit new

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:53:17AM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: Nope; if you become staff then devrel/recruiters will be involved. You are no exception to the rule. Incorrect. As devrel already stated, this won't change ever. We will be always the ones to do this. I still don't see

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:19:34PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to manage your recruits then they can't be gentoo staff. One reason could be that we are _not_ going to be called developers but staff. Can anybody

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:01:57PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Developers have CVS access; take the ebuild quiz and you're a developer, take the staff quiz (the eight-question quiz some mods apparently don't like for whatever bizarre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Brainless keywording (this time: dev-dotnet)

2005-06-28 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 06:34:11PM -0300, Gustavo Zacarias wrote: When will this end? DON'T KEYWORD STUFF YOU DON'T TEST ON ARCHES, SPECIALLY STUFF THAT WON'T WORK UNTIL PORTING IS DONE. I mean, c'mon, it's easy enough... just go to that little Mono page

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bad metadata.xml encoding

2005-05-11 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:13:11PM +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: * Georgi Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/05/11 09:36 +0900]: Starts to smell of a cvs problem... Two ideas to handle a check of metadata.xml: 1) repoman should run xmllint 2) the cvs-server can do it during commit (like it already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo could become certified for IBM Server Hardware

2005-05-04 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 06:15:28AM -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: Let me just diplomatically: cool :) Agreed ! :P -- \\|// . . . o o o o O O ( Born to be ) o o ( FREE ) +--ooO--O--Ooo---+ |

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