Re: [gentoo-dev] [REVIEW] News Item - 2020-10-17-display-manager-init

2020-10-18 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:02 AM Aisha Tammy wrote: > On 10/18/20 2:29 AM, Joonas Niilola wrote: > > On 10/18/20 8:48 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Do you really think a rename for the sake of renaming justifies > >> requiring all users to rewrite their configuration? While we're > >> requiring

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-09 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 6:57 PM William Hubbs wrote: > Hi Rich, > > > William - can you actually elaborate on WHY you want to change things? > > Is there some problem with eudev? Is it actively maintained and > > generally tracking upstream udev commits (minus whatever they > > intentionally

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: */*: More Py2 stuff

2020-07-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
That dependency is only if USE="-gnuefi". sys-boot/gnu-efi has no Python dependency. Instead of masking/removing refind, remove the USE flag and force the gnu-efi dependency, or reverse the condition, add IUSE="tianocore", and mask that USE flag. On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 7:06 PM Aaron Bauman

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Anti-spam for goose

2020-05-22 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 1:18 AM waebbl wrote: > Am Do., 21. Mai 2020 um 22:14 Uhr schrieb Viktar Patotski < > xp.vit@gmail.com>: > >> I believe that we are all have forgotten about Donald Knuth: Premature >> optimisation is the root of all evill. >> > I won't consider spam protection to be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Anti-spam for goose

2020-05-21 Thread Gordon Pettey
Require browser-based interaction to use the service. Do something funky with AJAX so the page can't be properly used with curl or anything so that manual effort is required to get the UUID to submit as. Only allow registered UUIDs, and only allow one submission per day per UUID. Sure, somebody

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] [RFC] New global USE flag 'speech'

2020-04-13 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:13 PM Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: > On Monday, 13 April 2020 18:01:42 CEST Michał Górny wrote: > > I see one package using 'tts'. > > These should switch to 'speech', imo: > app-i18n/translate-shell[tts] - Enable text-to-speech support > I would strongly disagree. TTS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Deprecation and removal of legacy X11 input drivers.

2020-04-02 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:27 AM Piotr Karbowski wrote: > while keeping the long sentence, that even it's long, is still beneficial > to have > Split it for grammatical correctness and ease of human parsing. The only use for those drivers remain in deployments which intentionally > opt-out of

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: noarch keyword

2020-03-19 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alec Warner wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:52 AM Gerion Entrup > wrote: > >> Am Donnerstag, 19. März 2020, 02:59:56 CET schrieb Kent Fredric: >> > On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 17:52:25 + >> > James Le Cuirot wrote: >> > >> > > Not quite. Tools like repoman will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/

2019-09-05 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:15 AM Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > On 2019-09-05 06:02, Michał Górny wrote: > >> In my case I am working on a new mysql eclass to outsource pkg_config > >> function which is shared at least between dev-db/mysql and > >> dev-db/percona-server (and maybe dev-db/mariadb). >

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: [QA] Ban policy introduction

2018-07-29 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 4:17 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:47:47 +0900 Alice Ferrazzi wrote: >> Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018, 16:39 Fabian Groffen, wrote: >> >> > Completely agreeing with Sergei, with some additional suggestions:

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree

2018-07-11 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 2:29 AM, Jory A. Pratt wrote: > This is a mess, many systems are setup with portage already on a > seperate partition for reasons. What advantage does it provide to move > the tree now after all these years? I have seen nothing more then lets > do this cause I like the

Re: [gentoo-dev] multi-backend support for ssl/tls in curl

2018-04-23 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 1:26 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu nie, 22.04.2018 o godzinie 09∶34 -0500, użytkownik Matthew Thode > napisał: >> The short of it is that curl supports having multiple backends. I'd >> like to have that feature enabled so libraries and userland can

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: Correct/clarify SSL/TLS-related flags

2018-01-30 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018, Michał Górny wrote: > NACK. This seems to imply that USE="-ssl gnutls" is not a valid > configuration? What if the user prefers gnutls and therefore has > globally enabled the gnutls flag, but -ssl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Split distfile mirror directory structure

2018-01-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Andrew Barchuk wrote: > I don't see a reason to organize distfiles in a > multi-level hierarchy: e.g. if the goal is to keep no more than 1000 > files in a folder than the limit of single level hierarchy is a million > which is more than enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Split distfile mirror directory structure

2018-01-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Barchuk wrote: > There's another option to use character ranges for each directory > computed in a way to have the files distributed evenly. One way to do > that is to use filename prefix of dynamic length so that each range > holds the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Split distfile mirror directory structure

2018-01-27 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Michael Orlitzky <m...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 01/27/2018 11:42 AM, Gordon Pettey wrote: >> Why not use a hash of the file name instead of its contents? That >> seems like it would be much simpler, and that's not going to reduce >> t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Split distfile mirror directory structure

2018-01-27 Thread Gordon Pettey
Why not use a hash of the file name instead of its contents? That seems like it would be much simpler, and that's not going to reduce the output space for balance... On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu sob, 27.01.2018 o godzinie 11∶36 +,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-15 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> Gentoo's singling itself itself out as less receptive to its users >> simply because some its developers are too Trumpian to resist arguing >> with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Andreas K. Huettel posted on Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:12:47 +0100 as excerpted: > >> Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018, 18:16:33 CET schrieb Vincent-Xavier JUMEL: >>> Le 2018-01-10 10:53, Michał Górny a écrit : >>> > Last I checked,

Re: That's all folks. (Re: OT Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists)

2017-12-08 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> >> Independent of whether William now unsubscribed or not, he's now enjoying a >> lengthy (1 year until review) vacation from all Gentoo communication >> channels. >> > > I don't understand two

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th: 3 hashes for the tie-breaker case

2017-11-12 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > Minor clarification, old single core //and// uni-processor. Some older > machines have multiple physical CPUs that are single-core. Threading > should be > okay on these, as long as the thread count stays under NR_CPUS.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th

2017-10-20 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Anton Molyboha <anton.stay.connected@gmail. com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Gordon Pettey <petteyg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Hanno Böck <ha...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> >>&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th

2017-10-19 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 21:08:40 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > manifest-hashes = SHA512 SHA3_512 > > Counterproposal: Just use SHA512. > > There isn't any evidence that any SHA2-based hash algorithm is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: games-rpg/nwn-shadowlordsdreamcatcherdemon

2017-09-08 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Ciaran McCreesh < ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 11:10:54 -0500 > Gordon Pettey <petteyg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > And this is all irrelevant since the copyright applies to the > > software, not the locat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: games-rpg/nwn-shadowlordsdreamcatcherdemon

2017-09-08 Thread Gordon Pettey
And this is all irrelevant since the copyright applies to the software, not the location you obtain it from. Nobody commits copyright infringement by buying a used book from their neighbour instead of buying it at Half Price Books. Distribution licenses are another thing, but if the original

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: games-rpg/nwn-shadowlordsdreamcatcherdemon

2017-09-05 Thread Gordon Pettey
Can these package.mask notes stop saying "no alternative found" when it's obvious five seconds of Google searching was not even performed to find an alternative? https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/module/shadowlords-dreamcatcher-and-demon-campaigns has live links, and the exe even matches

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Categories for GUI stuff x11 and wayland

2017-09-04 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > R0b0t1 posted on Mon, 04 Sep 2017 12:27:35 -0500 as excerpted: > > >> I actually really like the ux-* idea. So much so I wish I'd thought of > >> it. =:^) It doesn't come across as nearly as "tired and worn out" as > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing PMS to Portage Manager Specification

2017-08-14 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:46 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. <wlt...@o-sinc.com> wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:55:02 -0500 > Gordon Pettey <petteyg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Alexander Berntsen > > <berna...@gentoo.org> wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing PMS to Portage Manager Specification

2017-08-12 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > While the PMS perhaps hasn't been an unequivocal success, it's still a > good effort with some success. I would be disappointed to see the > proposed change, and view it as a bad sign for Gentoo. > Also, how many

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-forensics/* and other forensics@g.o packages

2017-08-11 Thread Gordon Pettey
I have used chkrootkit and rkhunter in the past. Will copy them to my overlay (https://github.com/petteyg/gentoo-overlay) if they don't get a maintainer. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:49 PM, RB wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-12 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:14 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:03:00 +1000 > Sam Jorna wrote: > > > $ emerge -C apg > > * This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer, > > use > > * `emerge -pv --depclean ` to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > Stop getting lost in the weeds > > You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about that! > > > > LET ME CLARIFY > > > > When using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Profile-enforced big-endian USE flag

2017-06-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:29 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:52:26 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 6:44 PM, James Le Cuirot > wrote: > > > I am therefore proposing a new global big-endian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-editors/vim-qt

2017-04-23 Thread Gordon Pettey
s/upstream/downstream/g Upstream is working fine. On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > # Michael Palimaka (23 Apr 2017) > # Doesn't work with any in-tree versions of vim. Inactive upstream. > # Bug 607136. Masked for removal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of CVS headers

2017-02-26 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 03:05:09PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > As the council has decided in its 2014-10-14 meeting (and confirmed > > again in the 2016-11-13 meeting), CVS headers should be removed after > > the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-26 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:16:15 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:58:50 +0300 > > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:45 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:05 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> > >> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > >> > >> Something that converts

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidelines for IUSE defaults

2017-02-02 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > > If (base == minimal), then all of the upstream defaults need to be added > > to package.use for the upstream-defaults profile. That's bad, >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Requirements for UID/GID management

2017-01-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/28/2017 09:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > Honestly, I really will say "so what" here. :) > > > > I forgot to mention a few of the advantages of having really-fixed UIDs. > First, it makes the code simpler.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stay on-topic.

2016-12-09 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 4:36 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Java on Gentoo is really not bad, if you are familiar with Java at all. > It's actually quite insane "if you're familiar with Java at all"... Building C and C++ from source is great. 51% of dev-java category is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New version constraints: variant one

2016-11-10 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Michał Górny wrote: > > > The following revision-free version comparison operators are provided: > > > == exact version match, or prefix match (with *) > > != exact version non-match, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab update

2016-10-26 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 26/10/16 04:49 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > > On 10/25/2016 13:15, William Hubbs wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 01:10:06PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 1:01 PM, William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Are "Copyright 1999-20xx Gentoo Foundation" headers bogus?

2016-10-24 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Ciaran McCreesh < ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 15:34:14 -0700 > Matt Turner wrote: > > In order to contribute to GNU projects, one must sign a copyright > > assignment statement. > > > > Gentoo doesn't have

Re: [gentoo-dev] man pages: build or copy?

2016-07-09 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 10:13:13 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > On 07/09/2016 09:54 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > I've created an ebuild for net-misc/zerotier [1]. This has a BDEP on > > > app-text/ronn, the build

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need design help/input for eclean-kernel

2016-07-01 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:52 PM, William Hubbs <willi...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 06:18:11PM -0500, Gordon Pettey wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Daniel Campbell (zlg) <z...@gentoo.org> > > wrote: > > > > > -BEGIN

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need design help/input for eclean-kernel

2016-06-30 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Daniel Campbell (zlg) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > 'boot' is a symlink to '.'. Not really sure why it's there but if I remove > it, things break. Probably a minor misconfiguration. > /boot/boot -> /boot allows

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-03 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Damien Levac wrote: > On 2016-06-02 05:27 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> On 06/02/2016 12:57 PM, Damien Levac wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2016-06-02 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/

2016-05-14 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh < ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Why? Gentoo is about the community. Requiring a basic standard of commit > quality a) reduces the number of community members who are able to > contribute, 2) leads to fewer forums posts discussing how to

Re: [gentoo-dev] CVS headers in ebuilds

2016-04-10 Thread Gordon Pettey
Or you could just use a branching workflow like Git has great support for, and create your overlay as a branch of the main tree you're copying ebuilds from. With recent versions, you can even have checkouts of different branches from the same tree in different directories, so you're not

Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge

2016-04-09 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 160409 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Philip Webb > wrote: > >> I've always used Lilo, which is simple + reliable : > >> I never see questions re it here, but there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Portage repo usage survey and change evaluation

2016-03-03 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > It is almost, but not completely unlike it. A simple ChangeLog is a lot > easier ... > > > (Why are people now trying to add middleware layers to indirect the > problem to become invisible in a huge machinery? This is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bug #565566: Why is it still not fixed?

2016-02-25 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:12 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Luis Ressel wrote: > > > > That would require a local git clone. And that's exactly what those who > > still want Changelogs are trying to avoid. > > You need even a deep git clone with full history. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "Lazy" use flags?

2016-02-12 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:36 AM, Kent Fredric > wrote: > > On 12 February 2016 at 18:56, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > >> So my USE="-* ..." (without letting portage do autounmasking) would

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Lazy" use flags?

2016-02-09 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 10 February 2016 at 02:14, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > Another concern, though, is it'd result in something similar. Instead > > of "cat/foo bar baz" and later removing 'baz', you'd have "cat/foo bar

Re: [gentoo-dev] ssl vs openssl vs libressl vs gnutls USE flag foo

2015-10-27 Thread Gordon Pettey
Is this not precisely what USE_EXPAND is supposed to be for? Take CURL_SSL and make it generic... On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:06 PM, hasufell wrote: > > > > B) 1 feature flag, 3 strict provider flags >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Referencing bug reports in git

2015-08-10 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: ** summary bug number standardized to GB#xx or #xx or similar, short enough for summary, easily identified. GB# would be distinctly gentoo and could be expanded to KDEB#, GNB# (gnome), FDOB#, etc, for If you're going

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git workflow, commit messages

2015-08-09 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: Particularly, we should prepend CATEGORY/PN: to the first line so we can easily search git log for what happened to a package. Good format to help reading unfiltered logs, but invalid reasoning. 'git log

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please subscribe to travis-ci mail alias to get notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-13 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Erik Mackdanz erikm...@gmail.com wrote: William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org writes: git request-pull simply formats an email template to tell someone how they may pull from you, but Github makes no attempt to process such a message or turn it into a Github pull

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please subscribe to travis-ci mail alias to get notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-11 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: While I must admit that travis is a quite convenient tool (thought it has its limitations), I'd like to raise related software freedom concern. Travis itself is a closed, proprietary and non-trivial-to-replace

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-04-04, o godz. 13:47:47 Alex Brandt alund...@gentoo.org napisał(a): I don't disagree but will simply point out that if this becomes true, we should also move dev-lang/python to dev-python, dev-lang/ruby to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policies for games dirs, new group gamestat for sgid binaries

2015-02-21 Thread Gordon Pettey
On 02/21/2015 01:35 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Personally, I think that controlling who is allowed to run certain types of applications via group membership is a great idea. We should introduce that approach for other applications too. How about an editors group? Text editors are

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing opengl dependency header

2015-02-12 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht nicolas.s-...@laposte.net wrote: In file included from modules/graphics/opengl/GLee.h:66:0, from modules/graphics/opengl/OpenGL.h:24, from modules/graphics/opengl/VertexBuffer.h:29,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-02 Thread Gordon Pettey
Having USE=ffmpeg at all is the source of any confusion in case somebody is using libav. Either with an expand set (which seems wasted just for two options) or two regular flags, just force one or none. There is absolutely no sense in having USE=ffmpeg on for a system using libav. On Mon, Feb 2,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-01-25 23:59 UTC

2015-01-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org wrote: A while back, Daniel Quinn asked what the Gentoo devs that follow the G+ Gentoo Account what they think of making it possible to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-23 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/23/2015 03:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 14:26:48 Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 01/23/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: To help you enable the correct USE flags, we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving CPU flags into USE_EXPAND

2015-01-20 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Christopher Head ch...@chead.ca wrote: On January 20, 2015 12:47:03 AM PST, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: So, you're telling me that if you have a list of 90 cpu extensions, you will from time to time open that list to see if there is a 91st one

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-19 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-01-19, o godz. 23:09:55 Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Why not : libav? ( media-libs/libav:= ) ffmpeg? ( media-libs/ffmpeg:= ) + REQUIRED_USE=^^ ( libav ffmpeg ) I for one would never

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: desc/cpu_flags_x86.desc

2015-01-19 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:15:22 -0800 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: mmx - Use the MMX instruction set mmxext - Use the Extended MMX instruction set (intersection of Enhanced 3DNow! and SSE instruction

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: desc/cpu_flags_x86.desc

2015-01-18 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sunday 18 January 2015 21:44:05 Michał Górny wrote: popcnt - Enable popcnt instruction support Why?! Because Intel and AMD support it via different cpuinfo feature names. It is popcnt on Intel, and abm on AMD. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-devel/gcc::mgorny up for testing

2014-12-07 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Kristian Fiskers By all means, thanks for informing about an alternative, but I personally believe that it is important for the overall distribution to keep a wider perspective than personal non-free use (even if this is a developers primary focus as reason

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Implicit system dependency

2014-11-23 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:14 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:05:03AM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: That's at most an argument that USE=-* should be a theoretically valid configuration. It does not mean that the setting makes sense for anyone.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: git security (SHA-1)

2014-09-20 Thread Gordon Pettey
You're following the wrong train down the wrong tracks. Git [0-9a-f]{40} is to CVS 1[.][1-9][0-9]+. You're arguing that CVS is more secure because its commits are sequential numbers. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, hasufell wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: git security (SHA-1)

2014-09-20 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Gordon Pettey petteyg...@gmail.com wrote: You're following the wrong train down the wrong tracks. Git [0-9a-f]{40} is to CVS 1[.][1-9][0-9]+. You're arguing that CVS is more secure because its

Re: [gentoo-dev] git security (SHA-1)

2014-09-15 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:02 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: hasufell: * there is no known SHA-1 collision afais * calculating one isn't that hard. NSA might be able to do it in reasonable time * however, the algorithms to do that will come up with random garbage, so it's a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

2014-07-21 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org wrote: On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: What's wrong with HOMEPAGE=() ? It is not very informative. The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of metadata that just says there's no metadata?

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using .xz for doc/man/info compression

2014-05-12 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Alexander Tsoy alexan...@tsoy.me wrote: В Sun, 11 May 2014 18:26:32 -0500 Gordon Pettey petteyg...@gmail.com пишет: A lot of small files (e.g. AUTHORS, ChangeLog FWIW: On my system, I have 59M of bz2 files in /usr/share/man and /usr/share/doc. A short

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using .xz for doc/man/info compression

2014-05-11 Thread Gordon Pettey
A lot of small files (e.g. AUTHORS, ChangeLog FWIW: On my system, I have 59M of bz2 files in /usr/share/man and /usr/share/doc. A short script to decompress those and recompress with xz -6e reduced that to 36M. I don't have a comparison for individual file differences. I posted the short bash

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
And now you file a bug to get that incorrectly applied terminal tag changed to cli, because they don't mean the same thing. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 March 2014 09:56, yac y...@gentoo.org wrote: terminal ∩ jabber ∩ client And now you

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH v3] Test for read-only filesystems, bail out during preinst if there are any which will be written to and display a useful error message. Fixes bug 378869.

2014-01-20 Thread Gordon Pettey
If your going to make that argumint, ewe mite a's well right the documentation in LOL-1337. Encouraging bad grammar in documentation just make's thing's harder for everybody. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sunday 19 January 2014 05:39:25 Alexander

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Feature Request: making thirdpartymirrors easier to manage

2014-01-11 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Ben Kohler bkoh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.orgwrote: I would like to make it a directory instead of a single file, and extend the internal syntax. I'm not sure I see much real value in allowing

Re: [gentoo-dev] OCSP was: friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Alex Xu alex_y...@yahoo.ca wrote: On 06/11/13 08:00 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 11/06/2013 02:11 PM, Thomas D. wrote: This is going OT but I cannot leave this statement uncommented, because from my knowledge this is wrong/you are hiding important

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/base: ChangeLog package.use.force

2013-07-19 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.orgwrote: On 19 July 2013 16:46, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2013-07-19, o godz. 16:11:52 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On 19 July 2013 16:04, Ian Delaney (idella4) idel...@gentoo.org