Re: [gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
not going to break stuff, then do what needs to be done. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear web: http://www.grantgoodyear.org e-mail: gr...@grantgoodyear.org

[gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Google Summer of Code 2008 is on!]

2008-02-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
/group/google-summer-of-code-announce?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- - End forwarded message - -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

[gentoo-dev] 2008 Google Summer of Code

2008-01-29 Thread Grant Goodyear
there are many, despite the fact that some good work was done last year. Thoughts? Comments? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpEPrC63gxw5.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] death to mailer-config/mailwrapper

2007-11-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
is only intended to allow users to have two MTAs _installed_ on the same box, not actually have them both running simultaneously. It works pretty well for that, but I agree that there seems to be little real need for it. I have no objection to it going away. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2007-08-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
was moved to the 16th, to avoid conflicting with LWE. No? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp0yRFAewfZN.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] Nominations open for the 2007/08 Trustees

2007-07-17 Thread Grant Goodyear
that comments be sent there as well, since most people don't read -nfp. If you think this is a good idea, a bad idea, or you just want to know more, now's the time to express your opinion. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
that it's going to affect me very much. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpiSvLESccDC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2

2007-06-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
for the proctors to get involved only when behavior is particularly egregious? Is there a way to fix the current system, or should it be chucked entirely, as has been suggested? Well reasoned thoughts and opinions welcome. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
glibc be called? (It's not an entirely academic question; Debian folks have worked on such a distribution for some time.) I can't really tell from the text in your proposed GLEP. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation

2007-04-17 Thread Grant Goodyear
to agree with what I've observed, where Could you explain where the discrepancy arises? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpT81TUwtucG.pgp Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-04 Thread Grant Goodyear
. If they don't, vote out the bums. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgppKgEGeE8NE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
sole IRC host, since freenode would certainly count as a single vendor. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpigXWRG4cU1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
is precisely so that people can fix broken packages. Just don't break anything when you do it. If you do, then you deserve to have the council thump you. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
, it also seems reasonable to me that a hard-working student could make real progress in this over the Summer. -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpbXjn3wJk0r.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
-Gentoo-specific proposals, I suspect they'll push the less-Gentoo-specific proposals right off the acceptance list, unless those alternative proposals are amazingly impressive. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Sat Mar 24 2007, 11:38:45AM CDT] On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700 Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Goodyear wrote: [snip] PS. So, anybody have any actual technical comments about this proposal? Yes. pioto's proposal is weak. lu_zero's

[gentoo-dev] two more tentative SOC ideas

2007-03-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpO7B3VQJftY.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: two more tentative SOC ideas

2007-03-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
Forwarding on behalf of Diego. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 ---BeginMessage--- On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:46:24 -0500 Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1

[gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-14 Thread Grant Goodyear
the difference lies? Are we sure that we're solving the right problem? (That's not a rhetorical question; I really don't know the answer.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-14 Thread Grant Goodyear
have to deal with him, then I'm going to be perfectly happy with that arrangement. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpSh0hgB1OjE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
. Thank you very much. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpC9y5kFBjPg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
Robin H. Johnson wrote: [Tue Mar 13 2007, 06:05:10PM CDT] On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:09:53PM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: * Can we find a better name than the Proctors, please? Yes, that's a completely petty point, but it was the first one that came to mind. Suggestions welcome. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
*.. [rest snipped] Please, stop. This thread has mostly died out, and it would be nice not to fan the flames again. Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
, or not at all by the Council. If they take too long, or their work is too paludis-biased, or if people just don't trust the authors, then nothing is preventing anybody else from writing a competing spec. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
with that solution. Morale? Heck if I know. Perhaps it should be no more than get your facts straight, or you'll have to deal with another annoyingly lengthy post from g2boojum. Yours tiredly, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG

[gentoo-dev] Well, that was, um, interesting

2007-03-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
trusted and willing to actually punish incivility. Thoughts? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgplxaHmQNCxk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
Josh Saddler wrote: [Mon Mar 05 2007, 03:51:08PM CST] Technical point here -- the devmanual has never been in GuideXML; it was converted from RST into docbook. Oh! My apologies. Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
to benefit more of the community than just Gentoo. *Shrug* Assuming we decide to be a mentoring organization again, I'm willing to help with the paperwork and administrative stuff. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpDzvNrd3h9Z.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-15 Thread Grant Goodyear
http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/02/speaking-of-summer.html So, are we going to want to participate again this year? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Maintainer Timeout

2007-02-02 Thread Grant Goodyear
. For the majority of packages in the tree, though, I'd like to encourage their maintainers to be less possessive. If somebody wants to fix bugs in ebuilds that I maintain, go right ahead. Just don't break it in the process, please. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
be that a not-so-good one will need to be enacted by fiat. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp0vUValY5Wz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] tr1 dependencies

2007-01-30 Thread Grant Goodyear
for people who remove old versions of g++, just like we do now. The benefit would be that at the cost of forcing everybody to upgrade g++ we could rely on tr1 existing everywhere. *Shrug* Hopefully somebody has a better idea. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Topic for Feb council meeting

2007-01-29 Thread Grant Goodyear
for the position. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgphDsgw6xilV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
/spf.txt Thanks, that's quite helpful. What did you do (or not do) to avoid paying the SPF_NEUTRAL SA penalty in your test e-mail sent using gmail? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Grant Goodyear
it. If that appearance were, in fact, the reality, then appealing to the Council would seem to be perfectly reasonable. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Grant Goodyear
Oct., and in each one I see the following sig: Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ as-needed is broken : http://ciaranm.org/show_post.pl?post_id=13 Where has he used [EMAIL PROTECTED]? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-03 Thread Grant Goodyear
as a meta-distribution. (We also need to make it easy to install and replicate custom distributions, but we already have Catalyst and the Seeds project addressing those issues.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: license group file format

2006-10-26 Thread Grant Goodyear
is a line based format groupname license1 ... licenseN At the risk of reopening a large can of worms, can somebody explain to me why the license groups idea won't run into the same conceptual issues that derailed GLEP 29 (USE groups)? Am I missing something obvious? -g2boojum- -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure

2006-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
changes to GLEP 39 the changes are much smaller, and I'd rather see the changes done inline. *Shrug* It's a slippery slope, but I'd rather rely on common sense until there's actual evidence that it's failing. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing the metastructure (was: [Council] Summary of the last meeting)

2006-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Wed Oct 25 2006, 11:17:09AM CDT] On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:48:57 -0500 Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | (Incidentally, I apologize for missing the meeting. I was in | intensely boring radiation safety training.) Uh, isn't boring a good thing when it comes

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] New Trustees - My Resignation

2006-10-23 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Mon Oct 23 2006, 09:50:02AM CDT] *Sigh* Unfortunately, the bylaws have yet to be approved (mainly because the quorum requirements would kill us). Thus, there is no well-defined path. The options are: (1) Follow the bylaws, and the remaining trustees will pick

Re: [gentoo-dev] mirroring distfiles/patches on patches.gentoo.org

2006-10-23 Thread Grant Goodyear
Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Mon Oct 23 2006, 04:35:50PM CDT] To my fellow Gentoo Devlopers and Users, [lots snipped] Truly, the sarcasm doesn't help. It takes a potentially reasonable grievance and reduces it to just the author appearing to be a jerk. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Thanks

2006-10-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
a list of eligible voters for the current election, and codergeek42, fmccor, and gustavoz, who are the other election officials (and who, presumably, will be providing independent confirmations of the election results). -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[gentoo-dev] Trustee polls closing quite soon

2006-10-20 Thread Grant Goodyear
As I write this, it's 17:42 UTC, and the polls close at some microsecond before 00:00 UTC. If you haven't voted and you wish to be a member of the Gentoo Foundation (and you're eligible), please do so. Best regards, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[gentoo-dev] Testing run of countify

2006-10-20 Thread Grant Goodyear
in a ballot that caused it not to be counted, so hopefully this process will help reduce the number of similar errors. Best, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

Re: [gentoo-dev] Spider's Resignation from the Project

2006-10-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgphTaOx3hQoG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
to do this, I suspect that everybody would be happier. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpc4H0PoXf44.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Replacing votify/countify

2006-10-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
to actually do the work? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpsMeys9oGRL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Delay in approval of new developers

2006-09-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
it is developer self-interest that keeps things going. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpzB2b6XFdtf.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
that reality more clear, I'm certainly willing to listen to suggestions. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpFHSWMM48ya.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Council election master ballot

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
Here's the master ballot for the election. Confirmation e-mails will follow. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 - confirmation 2b94 - vapier kloeri

[gentoo-dev] unofficial council election results

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
ballot that I just mailed out, as that's all that is needed, so if anybody else wants to provide an independent count, feel free.) -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

[gentoo-dev] unofficial results -- full ranking

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
: option jakub wins result: option spb wins result: option patrick wins -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpYOj1W4APDT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] unofficial council election results

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
Wernfried Haas wrote: [Mon Sep 11 2006, 11:23:03AM CDT] I'd like to send my unofficial congratulations to the new council then. Also thanks to the folks who did the technical stuff behind the vote. Btw, how many people actually voted? 121 -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer

[gentoo-dev] Results now more official

2006-09-11 Thread Grant Goodyear
- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpUBNQWaNjZP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
. Updated in CVS. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpgBo5yLD4Xl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
things moving again, so given that the GLEP is more a statement of intent than something to be implemented I would say it can probably be marked final at some point. Marked final. Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
precise. The council rejected both GLEPs in favor of starting with a Gentoo package manager API (which spb is slowly assembling), and then requiring in-tree package managers to implement that API. Or at least that was my understanding of that meeting. Thanks! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

[gentoo-dev] GLEP updates

2006-09-03 Thread Grant Goodyear
base) -- GDP want to approve this one so I can change the code? Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpLFfzBPtDgc.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Grant Goodyear
INSTALL_MASK) if those scripts weren't desired. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpGeOfoXqVF7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
to pigeon-hole themselves into a rigid project structure, but I don't really have any evidence of that. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp6uCrXHt1yk.pgp Description

[gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
, please let me know. All current devs are eligible to vote. Incidentally, I'm currently serving as an election official since I'm not running for a spot on the Council. It would be good to have a couple other people acting as officials, too. Volunteers? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Christel Doty wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 12:34:50PM CDT] Sure, just let me know what you need me to do Grant :) Thanks! Um, I'm not quite sure what's going to be needed just yet, but I'll keep you informed. -g2boojum- PS. With three election officials, we probably have enough now. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Olivier Crete wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 11:42:14AM CDT] On Thu, 2006-10-08 at 10:57 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: I volunteer (again).. What's the status on the search for voting software ? Well, fmccor has suggested STV[1], so the current plan is to use countify to assemble the usual master

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Greg KH wrote: [Thu Aug 10 2006, 12:42:47PM CDT] On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:57:14AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
is more than enough administrative annoyance all by itself.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpovh6Vp5JnS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
, the kernel would be it.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpong75Uwgt9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
life much simpler for everybody. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpcquPFfyhuM.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] herds.xml

2006-06-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
So, what would people think of moving herds.xml from gentoo/misc into the portage tree, with the rationale being that local tools could use that information for various useful purposes (compiling statistics, doing something that I can't think of right now, whatever)? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-07 Thread Grant Goodyear
for one-off builds.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp5cgkviFCsQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Update www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15

2006-06-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
Paul Dlug wrote: The following patch upgrades www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15 (current latest available version in portage is 1.2.13 which has numerous evil bugs). This is my first submission so I wasn't sure if attached patches are preferred to inline ones (or vice versa). Let me know if there's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
. -motif - is unmaintained in portage and rather outdated, does not look good. Should not be default for optional interfaces I believe that flag is mainly there to reduce the Hey, my xpdf package lacks the xpdf binary bugs. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[gentoo-dev] evolution of x86 stabling procedures

2006-06-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
have any statistics or anecdotal evidence for what's improving, and whether or not anything is getting worse as a result? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76

Re: [gentoo-dev] evolution of x86 stabling procedures

2006-06-05 Thread Grant Goodyear
was rather hoping that x86 was doing peer review and at least one other arch team wasn't, since then we could try to make some sort of quantitative comparison. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2006-06-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
overlooked in the rest of that thread or ignored because people considered it to be useless; I'm not sure which. In any event, I just want to bring it to the council's attention as an alternative approach. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

2006-05-30 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote: Basically, it would be something that allowed you to browse the current tree of submitted ebuilds. This way users that submit something can categorize it for devs to easily look for ebuilds they may be interested in, and we can make it so we could easily grab the ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
McCreesh, Grant Goodyear, Aaron Walker, Robert Coie, Tom Martin, Paul Varner, Ilya Volynets-Evenbakh, Diego Patteno Fernando J. Pareda, Simon Stelling, Alin Dobre, and Joseph Jezak Seem reasonable? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote: [Wed May 24 2006, 04:37:44PM CDT] Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How was the conversion done? Do we now have a tool to convert rst to guidexml, or was the conversion all done by hand (which would be a truly frightening thought), or something else entirely

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
something obvious? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpRDW94TT7bg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Grant Goodyear
media being on obvious example). Perhaps something like the following would suffice: GLEP: xx Title: Supporting alternative package managers Version: $Revision: 1.3 $ Last-Modified: $Date: 2005/11/13 17:16:50 $ Author: Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Draft Type: Standards Track Content-Type

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? Pretty unlikely, past events considered. Personally I kind of like having commit access to my own code... I thought we (Gentoo) already had SVN repositories with non-Gentoo-dev committers? I'm pretty sure that was one of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
Paul de Vrieze wrote: At present I ask not for support, but for a minor addition for convenience purposes. One that has more disadvantages than advantages as already pointed out. Many of your comments have been quite valuable, but I've noticed that your recent posts fail to distinguish

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: Incidentally, in reading this thread it seems to me that a tendency to offer opinions (or predictions) as though they were facts has been a common theme. Please try to separate the two, whenever possible. Just to clarify, I was not limiting that comment to pauldv

Re: [gentoo-dev] 259 paludis-profile messages. ENOUGH!

2006-05-18 Thread Grant Goodyear
useful to contribute, shut up and go away. *Sigh* Be nice, please. Incidentally, he did have a point that this thread is now darn hard to follow. Perhaps it's time to split off a thread or two...? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Alternative Gentoo package managers discussion request (for the council)

2006-05-17 Thread Grant Goodyear
would want to discourage! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpNAVhQZhJFm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
it.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpAQhR879eWT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Goodyear
the equivalent portage db)? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpCeUn97oRES.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Wed May 10 2006, 08:32:01AM CDT] I have a copy of the font. It is ©2000 Ethan Dunham ‐ Fonthead Design ‐ http://www.fonthead.com Thanks! Okay, it's part of their freeware font font heads. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Heritage

2006-05-09 Thread Grant Goodyear
trying to explain a love story: You just can't without everybody looking strange at you afterwards. True! -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpf0G1RUMNPR.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-09 Thread Grant Goodyear
let me know, and I'll see what I can do to obtain any necessary rights. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpNDUDbMRug5.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] staffing needs expirations?

2006-05-03 Thread Grant Goodyear
need people to help w/ LDAP? -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpYpfv7VBNGY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Grant Goodyear
, but perhaps we can streamline things a tad. What's the major problem that you're looking to solve? Is it the shortage of developers, or the lack of progress in a certain area, or the (perceived?) difficulty in getting foo accomplished? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Fri Apr 28 2006, 01:55:01PM CDT] It's not quite true that the Council votes on GLEPs, but that's not really germane to your overall point. Oh, that was your point. Mea culpa. Okay, to address that point, the way that the current system works is that a GLEP is sent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Grant Goodyear
anyone agree that having a council is too political? I strongly believe it stifles gentoo. Do you have some specific examples of how you've seen the Council stifle Gentoo, or is it mainly just a general impression? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCESS DENIED during emerge

2006-04-28 Thread Grant Goodyear
A. Khattri wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Donnie Berkholz wrote: A. Khattri wrote: Does this sound right or is there a better (preferred?) way? Try to fix --enable-conf-install to respect DESTDIR or whatever other install method you're using, or look to see what flag it will take at 'make

[gentoo-dev] [Fwd: [gentoo-core] Council meeting log]

2006-04-20 Thread Grant Goodyear
Whoops ---BeginMessage--- I've attached a log of today's meeting. The agenda included Gentoo's participation in Google's Summer of Code and an update on portage gpg signing. In the former case, Gentoo has applied to participate, and assuming we get one of the handful of remaining slots then

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo theming during bootup

2006-04-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Curtis Napier wrote: [Mon Apr 10 2006, 09:53:04AM CDT] I'm willing to theme *.gentoo.org to match [...]. Speaking of which, what is the current status of the web redesign? Thanks, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo theming during bootup

2006-04-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
was the flying saucer guy. I believe that he was allowing us to use it while we got the redesign put together, but since that's dead it seems unfair to hold on to that flying saucer guy indefinitely. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo theming during bootup

2006-04-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Vapier wrote: [Mon Apr 10 2006, 05:25:23PM CDT] On Monday 10 April 2006 15:37, Grant Goodyear wrote: In any event, I think we need to remove the flying saucer guy. When drobbins left and turned over the Gentoo IP to us, one thing that he kept was the flying saucer guy. I believe that he

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