[gentoo-dev] Quantity of open bugs

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
Hi all, I was nosing through bugzilla, and noticed: * Number of open bugs is greater than 14,000 * Number of open bugs untouched for more than 2 years - well over 2000. * Number of open bugs untouched between 1 and 2 years - well over 2000. * Number of open bugs untouched between 6 months and 1

[gentoo-dev] Retiring

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
Hi all I'm finally giving in to reality and retiring as a Gentoo Dev. I've been effectively inactive since March last year and lack of time means that isn't going to change any time soon. I'll still be using Gentoo of course, so I'll still stick my nose in on bugzilla now and again :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] 'stricter' FEATURE and poor programming practices notice

2007-05-19 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
-fatal). In a broader scope, we could do with a QA check control file or something to provide finer-grained control of these QA checks. However the QA checks themselves seem to be a bit ad-hoc at the moment. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] distcc and precompiled headers

2007-05-19 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, or disable distcc). On a related note, we had a discussion on bug #128810 a while back about whether the package manager should be doing distcc and ccache at all, anyway. Personally I think the package manager shouldn't be involved in that at all. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eigen and GPL-2 exception - is a new licence required?

2007-05-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
and have the relevant packages use that license name. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo: static/dynamic linking libraries

2007-04-30 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
be that in practice, most libraries are never used in their static form - but the point is that the ebuild doesn't know enough information to make the decision. However, with INSTALL_MASK, the user makes the decision never to have static binaries, and thus gets a system free of static libraries. -- Kevin F

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-22 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:46:18 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag, 22. April 2007 schrieb Michael Cummings: On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 08:47:54AM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I do the same. The '$Header: $' tells me which version of a file in the CVS tree I last synced

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-21 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-21 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
that didn't have that information. The reason people put that information in, is so that when the file is taken out of the context of the SCM repository, it's still clear where it came from. This is precisely how I'm using it. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project,Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-26 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
in the way, much like many other markup languages (LaTeX, GROFF etc). Docutils' RST (reStructuredText) is much better in this regard; its markup is much less intrusive than anything else I've used. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cultural Differences (was: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla)

2007-03-25 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
you receive. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
think of it. To that end I'd like to propose bugzilla be reconfigured to use the phrase NOCHANGE instead of INVALID. NOCHANGE would indicate that whatever the original issue, no change is needed on our part to resolve the issue. Any reasons why this would be a bad idea? -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:14:38 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo Experience

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:48:25 -0400 Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:34:21PM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to the Gentoo Experience. We've all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
to them. Still, changing the name from INVALID to NOTABUG + NOTOURBUG does make sense, as the meaning doesn't get lost. I don't think we need NOTOURBUG. Anything that's a real bug, but not a bug in what we do, can be marked UPSTREAM. Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:14:38

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:17:52 +0200 Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn wrote: The problem I have with NOTABUG is pretty much the same problem I have with INVALID - it's not as severe, but it still does the same thing to the user (i.e. slaps him with a wet fish rather than

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:46:07 +0100 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:08 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certainly good explanations as to why a bug is being closed are to be encouraged. My issue isn't with that - it's with the way

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-19 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
the higher-numbers are removed is important (this is what users will see if they do emerge -l). -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's problems

2007-03-16 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
of the solution, not the part of the problem. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Summary for 15 March 2007 special council meeting on CoC

2007-03-16 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
I'd just like to say good job and thanks, to all involved in the CoC. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why I don't think the CoC is a good idea

2007-03-15 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
and then presented for review against the scope before final sign-off. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-15 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
may help limit the number of people who get involved. Perhaps gentoo-discuss. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems

2007-03-15 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
:) Seriously, if you want portage to be re-factored, just go ahead and do it; there's nothing to stop you. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-14 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
') Well, that's about all I can manage for now - don't expect a full critique in such a short timescale... -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-14 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
more about steam venting than the specific issues at hand at the time. Responding to the sort of pathetic blogging seen on Distrowatch is a bad thing, its sends the signal that rantings on the blog-o-sphere are due some respect, which the article of the 13th certainly does not. -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-14 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:18:58 +0100 Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of it. Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view on Gentoo even more. From many

Re: [gentoo-dev] mod_perl in apache conf

2007-03-08 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
didn't before, your mail program threads correctly by references ;) -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-portage-dev] LC_ALL and friends in make.conf

2007-03-08 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
to the user having LC_* set apart from LC_MESSAGES? -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
important to the work that I do for Gentoo. After all, although we call ourselves developers, really we're integrators. Today, being a dev (which essentially means having commit access to Gentoo repositories) is mostly about taking responsibility for what is finally committed. -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: Copyright, non-US devs and Gentoo Foundation vs Gentoo (Was: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting)

2007-03-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
in PDF here: http://www.fsf-europe.org/projects/fla/FLA.en.pdf This may be more appropriate than a straight copyright assingment as used by FSF (US). I guess this is an issue for the trustees, rather than the council, but (b)cc'ed both for comment. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-22 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
behaviours should be classed as quirks or EAPI=0 behaviour, presumably because the answer has a large impact on the design of a package manager. A good example is the recent one about whether EAPI=0 should require that the ebuild be sourced in every phase or only once. -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reliance upon || ( use? ( ) ) behaviour

2007-02-22 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
be in EAPI=0 or not... -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
should be encouraging people to continue using packages when we know there are known security issues. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:33:52 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:22:48 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Do you object to such packages (specifically with security issues) | being p.masked? If it's forcing a downgrade, yes. | I'm not sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] afflib licence (BSD4 like)

2007-02-07 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
--- -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-07 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
baselayout install different versions of init.d/conf.d and default shell for runscript depending on USE flags USE=posix - install posix 'sh' versions of conf.d/init.d scripts, have runscript default to /bin/sh otherwise install the bash versions with runscript defaulting to /bin/bash. -- Kevin F

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-07 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
.. How about baselayout-nb (No Bash) :) More seriously baselayout-posix, if posix-compliance of all scripts is a primary motivation. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hardened USE flag

2007-02-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
we're talking about whether we want position-independent code or not (but I defer to solar in these things). If it looks enough useful for many people; then i think we can proceed to implement it; if it will only be used by this ebuild; then i am already against it ;-) -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
available isn't such a big deal, and one for limited systems, restricted to busybox-standard sh. Actually I kinda assumed that's what baselayout-lite was all about... -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, hence the need for a new config. I think the argument for conf.d files is better than that for init.d scripts; you could have multiple baselayout setups that share conf.d file formats. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:04:49 -0600 Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn wrote: It would but having some kind of deadline after which you are for example free to take over the package if you want to would be nice. That's going too far; there's certainly no need to take over

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Maintainer Timeout

2007-02-02 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:19:21 -0600 Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [lots of good stuff] I was going to respond to Timothy's proposal in much the same way - but Grant has said everything much better than I would have done! +lots Grant :) -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-01 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, it should then be put in the hands of devrel to arbitrate. I don't see that anything more is needed. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [RFC] Depending on active version

2007-01-31 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
; across the 10,000+ packages in the tree only a handful use 'built_with_use' fex. That makes a strong case for having a simple solution in the near term, and re-visit if it becomes commonplace. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing licenses/BSD

2007-01-14 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
be to make it identical to the template at opensource.org: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php This means just removing the redundant '*'s from the continuation lines. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] deprecating /etc/make.profile

2007-01-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
/gentoo could just support it and stop breaking the end user. A simple expedient would be to have the package manager re-create the symlink according to the variable, whenever it is run. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, with the aim of fixing sandbox if it isn't quite up to the job. The only shortcoming I'm aware of in sandbox is bug #135745 (have fopen/open() fail normally if the file does not exist, rather than report a violation). Waiting on azarah to roll a new sandbox version, I think. -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
exception. that seems like a not-too-shabby idea actually Not sure. Would we run the risk that working ebuilds would start to fail when newer autotools versions arrive? -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2007-01-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
they need; those wanting GPL-2 or later would have ACCEPT_LICENSES=GPL-2 GPL-3 GPL-2+. For me, the only other sane alternative would be to use license groups (assuming license groups can be specified in the LICENSE variable). I don't recall the status of license groups in portage. -- Kevin F

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2007-01-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
changed to GPL-2+ if appropriate, after a while we can change the GPL-2 description to be GPL-2 only and let GPL-3-only people (there's always one) bug about packages that are still unchanged when they hit them. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Big change ideea

2006-12-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
everything where it currently is, and build a big tree of symlinks from the places you want. That's a lot of symlinks, however... One last thing - their 'readdir' kernel hack (GoboHide) - that's really nasty! Hacking the kernel interfaces to deliberately break compatibility is lunacy. -- Kevin F

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Versioning the tree

2006-11-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
-link from /etc/portage/package.mask to that list. It's just a suggestion - I'm not prepared to do the work ;) However it might be a simple but effective method to help people maintain secure but relatively stable systems, without having to upgrade umpteen packages a week. -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
say whether the proposed rules are necessary and sufficient. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Announcement: New(ish) eclass pax-utils.eclass

2006-11-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
is the time say as it can be removed with impunity. I did consider adding the functions to eutils.eclass, but I prefer to have it separate. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] ACCEPT_LICENSE revisited

2006-11-22 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:03:08 -0500 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 17:59 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Am I correct in thinking that the ACCEPT_LICENSE behaviour will just affect how portage calculates whether something can be installed or not (much like

Re: [gentoo-dev] amd64 and ia64 keywords

2006-10-25 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
engineer. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-13 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
). -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-10 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
and the maintainer. The amount of work the dev has to do depends on how well the maintainer follows the Gentoo ebuild rules. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:44:07 -0400 Thomas Cort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:41:45 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My view is that while they're being actively supported, there's no reason to remove them

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:44:07 -0400 Thomas Cort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:41:45 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My view is that while they're being actively supported, there's no reason to remove them

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:39:07 -0400 Thomas Cort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 09:21:08 -0400 Thomas Cort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The minority arches like mips, sparc etc seem to get along quite happily

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
to be read. Personally I think each project should organise its own status reporting schedule. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:18:54 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:02:17 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yuck. Devs should be free to add whatever packages they like, | provided they're willing to maintain them. There're already some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, by name, do you think meet those criteria. Explain why you consider those projects to be a hindrance to users or developers. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
should hinge primarily on whether stuff has an active Gentoo maintainer. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 52 - GLEP 23 revisited

2006-09-20 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
an existing LICENSE keywording in the ebuilds, why not just focus on patching portage to allow a make.conf variable for allowed licenses and block based on that? Sounds good enough to me. Perhaps two variables; ALLOW_LICENSES and DENY_LICENSES (with wildcard support). -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
to merge, then you could happily install hspell again and end up with a confused dep tree. Also, to my understanding, having configure automagically build support for hspell if it's available on the system is not the way we're supposed to handle such dependencies. -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:54:33 -0600 Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn wrote: If you don't care whether a package is stable or not, just let the arch team go ahead and do what they need to do to stabilise when they wish to. The role of package maintainer has nothing to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Bugzilla access for contributors

2006-09-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, presumably the contributor has write access to that overlay, and should be the assignee of the bug. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, but do not have either a proper herd, or a specific gentoo.org dev listed as maintainer. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:57:10 +0200 Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I don't think it's a good idea for devs to be putting stuff into the tree without taking responsibility for it. sure I can put myself in there but it will help no one because I cannot test

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
happen for packages in the official tree. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
configurations. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
have the power to sort out this problem on your own system. Just build the relevant packages with gcc-3.4.6 instead of gcc-4.1.1 (see gcc-config for switching your selected compiler). -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Sets

2006-08-29 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
where sets/set/set-V.ebuild is like a meta-ebuild. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
the rest of the team do, or if it does they don't care), you can just go ahead. Your summary implies explicit consent from the team would be needed, which I don't think would be a good idea. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
three- or six-month update, with the occasional ad-hoc update as need arises. Whatever, the point is that each project knows best how often it ought to communicate stuff. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
even for successful tests. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
for an individual package, that could be noted in the comments along with the link to the standard info. I think the info changes frequently enough that it's easier, and more likely to be correct, if it's posted to the bug at the time the report is made. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:51:56 +0200 Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:58:46 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with attachments is that processing the report takes longer - you have to go to the web to read the attachment to find out

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:40:23 +0200 Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:52:30 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general it depends what you're doing. Personally I find inline emerge --info quicker to process, as I tend to do that by scrolling up

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, including `emerge info`, should *never* be inlined in, or even attached to, stabilisation bugs. Yes. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul

2006-08-10 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
to build stuff to ROOT=/usr/${CTARGET}. Again in concept a /${CTARGET}/{bin,include,lib...} would exists for essential boot stuff, althought that's a bit academic. Just a thought for the pot ;) -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-10 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, you can compare the reports and see what differences might be triggering the fault. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] per-package USE defaults

2006-08-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
at that point). -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
. It's not insignificant. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:39:16 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: At the very least, ebuild maintainers and ATs should be running with tests switched on. If the tests are known to fail then the ebuild can either RESTRICT=test

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
it goes to 2.1.1 if we think it won't be too disruptive). p.s I hope all dev's run with test and collision-protect, I know I know you don't but I can hope. IMO devs should be working with collision-protect sandbox strict stricter test userpriv but let's not get too excited ;) -- Kevin F. Quinn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
. Clearly if something in glibc is not behaving properly, the effects can be nasty. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, if you set FEATURES=test, add test also to your USE flags. USE=test should never be used for anything other than supporting FEATURES=test. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:35:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaners Recruiting

2006-08-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:48:01 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To briefly go over requirements you need to be able to: Speak English; Why? Surely read write is enough. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
switched on. If the tests are known to fail then the ebuild can either RESTRICT=test, or just return successfully from src_test() where the test report is useful even if some tests fail. Thoughts? -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] metastructure model (was Re: Sunrise contemplations)

2006-08-02 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
the lead by majority decision (hopefully a rare occurrence). -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations

2006-08-01 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
, and not to be modifying eclasses that exist in the tree - this sort of change is for managed dev overlays. -- Kevin F. Quinn signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:42:07 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:04:10 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | If it were to be implemented with symlinks (implying one entry is | real and the others are aliases) the package manager just needs

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 13:35:08 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 06:04:10PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:05:20 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately the category system is deeply embedded in portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:19:28 +0100 Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn wrote: An advantage to this approach is that package moves just become aliases - existing stuff doesn't break yet you get the new categorisation as well. That's actually a disadvantage

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-24 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 06:23:59 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 02:47:46PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:19:28 +0100 Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just adding an alias into a second category makes the tree more

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-22 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:24:55 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 08:41:46PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:37:47 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 09:05:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Wed

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