Re: [gentoo-dev] crypto@ packages up for grabs

2020-01-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 08.01.2020 22:16, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > These are up for grabs due to the crypto@ project being disbanded. Going over the list once more, I'll also take > app-crypt/nasty > dev-libs/npth -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:

Re: [gentoo-dev] crypto@ packages up for grabs

2020-01-09 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 08.01.2020 22:16, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > These are up for grabs due to the crypto@ project being disbanded. > > app-eselect/eselect-pinentry I'll take this as well. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618

Re: [gentoo-dev] crypto@ packages up for grabs

2020-01-09 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
h me. I can join on >> app-crypt/gpgme >> dev-libs/libassuan >> dev-libs/libgpg-error >> dev-libs/libksba -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item: Desktop profile switching USE default to elogind

2019-10-28 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
emerge --unmerge consolekit -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: News item about interoperability restrictions of >=net-p2p/syncthing-1.2.0

2019-07-18 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
s. > > [1] https://docs.syncthing.net/advanced/folder-uselargeblocks.html -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord

2019-04-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 4/30/19 7:32 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: > One thing that may help is to have multiple levels of control defined. Indeed, this distinction is interesting. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED F

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord

2019-04-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
't sound like, but the article doesn't provide sufficient information for third parties to judge per se. I guess a more interesting question is why communication is increasingly fragmented across multiple chat systems; it reminds me of https://xkcd.com/1810/ -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord

2019-04-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
tive reputation as in the article in this thread. One some level that actually goes to trademark infringement that should be of interest to the foundation, but the issue is broader than that. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord

2019-04-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
developers have admin > rights', 'i.e. it is sanctioned by the project itself'. I was suggested > that if it's not official, we should close it instead. If that is how it is perceived I'd be in favor of outright closing it at least -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord

2019-04-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ficial if it is controlled by Gentoo. But this is where you get into semantic discussions. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord

2019-04-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 4/30/19 6:04 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 4/30/19 9:05 AM, Cynede wrote: >> Right, alike reddit, twitter, facebook and other PR channels. It's >> "official" because it's controlled by PR Gentoo team, > > No, that does not make anything official. Officia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord

2019-04-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
not an official communication channel for Gentoo. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Best way to create a GLEP 63 compliant GPG key on Nitrocard?

2019-04-26 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
xpect. default-key is exactly for config file, for other operations you use -u/--local-user -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Best way to create a GLEP 63 compliant GPG key on Nitrocard?

2019-04-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ertainly something expected not to happen from a Gentoo Dev to begin with (for primary key material at least) -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Best way to create a GLEP 63 compliant GPG key on Nitrocard?

2019-04-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
e? Quite frankly I'd expect a Gentoo Developer to be able to manage the gpg interface. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] util-linux build time increase?

2019-03-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
atalyst seed chroots I am building/updating. Its just a a quick way to propagate this wrapper on multiple computers; # cat /usr/local/bin/emerge_time.sh #!/bin/bash if [[ $# < 1 ]]; then echo "Usage: ${0} "; exit; fi qlop -tHvg "$1" -- Kristian Fisk

Re: [gentoo-dev] util-linux build time increase?

2019-02-21 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
util-linux-2.32-r4: Sun Jul 15 15:51:21 2018: 50 seconds util-linux-2.33-r1: Sun Jan 6 20:53:29 2019: 46 seconds util-linux-2.33-r1: Thu Feb 21 22:16:25 2019: 53 seconds -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35

Re: [gentoo-dev] AUTHORS file for portage repository

2018-11-27 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 11/27/18 9:07 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > I just picked a random msg to reply to on the thread. > > Here is the updated AUTHORS file I would like to commit. > > William Lets put it on agenda for next council meeting and let the discussion go until then. -- Kri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ckly when reported. There is a difference here, and on some level that is up to maintainer privilege to evaluate the difference. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 9/10/18 11:31 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > For more critical packages (like the example of zfs) whether it > compiles and installs isn't 1/10th as important as whether it eats my > data... exactly -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 9/10/18 11:21 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 9/10/18 11:19 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> It is indeed an insurmountable task to write code that is warning-free >> from the beginning across architectures, compiler versions, etc. But >> that i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
rries for build system (autotools re-generation that might make it unsupported upstream etc) ? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 9/10/18 11:04 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 9/10/18 11:01 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> It's quite a bit harder for a user to remove -Werror from the build >> system, assuming they can even interpret the error output. >> > > Sure, but at some point it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
it wasn't caught before being stabilized on several arches was indeed bad, but that likely says more about our stabilization procedures than the quality of the underlying package's upstream choices. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 9/10/18 10:56 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 9/10/18 10:51 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> Consider again the bug that started this. The maintainer had not built >> this configuration. None of the arch teams had built this >> configuration until I did for the last archite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ng installed on the system, if not for > Werror preventing the code from building. one way to look at it though, is that it is a valuable upstream contribution that this configuration produces the error, so Gentoo is contributing to upstream development because of it. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand O

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: Improve description of USE=test

2018-08-21 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
est? ( test )" in plenty of ebuilds, disabling the test phase if the use flag is unset altogether. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What means bup?

2018-07-18 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
onger proper description can be written in the body of the commit message instead. Potentially mixed in with multiple commits for different logical changes etc etc. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-18 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/18/2018 11:55 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > I therefore suggest the following scheme: The full scheme looks good to me -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Descript

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree

2018-07-09 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
t I'd say cache is out of the question, whether it is /var/lib or /var/db doesn't matter too much to me, but it needs to be announced properly ahead of time to adjust LVM2 volumes etc etc if impacting existing systems... I'd mostly argue any such change should only affect new systems -- Kristian Fiske

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Requiring gentoo.git committers to use their @gentoo.org address

2018-07-09 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ld). Sounds like a good thing, go for it! -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: Portage rsync hardlink support

2018-07-09 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ong we need to have proper key rollover procedures so this should never happen including backup keys. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: Portage rsync hardlink support

2018-07-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/08/2018 08:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > Again, the current portage support for git verification doesn't check > any developer keys. right, so why would it be material for a news item improving the status quo for those synching using the official rsync method? -- Kristian Fisker

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: Portage rsync hardlink support

2018-07-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ght not have published a revocation certificate. the git sync method will need a way to distinguish this for end-users, but the proper rsync synchronization will be able to trust the data at the point we say it is OK. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net f

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v4 00/14] GLEP 63 update

2018-07-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
let others answer that. In any case, the point itself (requiring > SHA-2 digest) makes sense. The RiseUp standard requires all self- > signatures to be SHA-2, and I was planning on verifying that as well. > no, SHA256 in this context is already default, and it doesn't impact cert-alg

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: Portage rsync hardlink support

2018-07-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ease wait for something that benefits most users, just to give alternatives to a few using non-default sync mechanism. Securing git distribution is a whole different ballpark. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: Portage rsync hardlink support

2018-07-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
w default. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 09/11] glep-0063: Make recommended expiration terms mandatory

2018-07-06 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
leting it from LDAP and as such block access to push etc, so it actually is more important for other aspects of the ecosystem than for us. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc D

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 09/11] glep-0063: Make recommended expiration terms mandatory

2018-07-06 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
consuming / difficult that it is a problem to do it once a year? What do you do when certifying/signing other's UIDs? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v3 08/12] glep-0063: Allow ECC curve 25519 keys

2018-07-06 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
a dedicated RSA signing key for Gentoo if necessary > (especially, since someone using ECC could be considered an advanced > GnuPG user). If the primary key is ECC, clients not supporting it won't be able to use the key material even if the signing subkey is RSA. > > Ulrich > -

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 07/11] glep-0063: Allow ECC, curve 25519 keys

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/05/2018 01:22 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > that said, I'm not aware of any curves defined with a lower security > margin than this for OpenPGP in general. The known curves in the > ecosystem are known in the ecosystem being the union of rfc4880bis draft and rfc6637 --

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 07/11] glep-0063: Allow ECC, curve 25519 keys

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
8\x01\x01\x0d" -> 512(* brainpoolP512r1 *) | "\x2b\x81\x04\x00\x0a" -> 256(* secp256k1 *) | "\x2b\x06\x01\x04\x01\xda\x47\x0f\x01" -> 256(* Ed25519 *) | _ -> failwith "Unknown OID" -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 00/11] Major GLEP 63 update; full text

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/04/2018 11:43 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 07/04/2018 11:28 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> W dniu śro, 04.07.2018 o godzinie 23∶12 +0200, użytkownik Ulrich Mueller >> napisał: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 04 Jul 2018, Michał Górny wrote: >>>&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 00/11] Major GLEP 63 update; full text

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
tes. > As I understand ulm's concern, the issue is with the max 1 year in combination with this, e.g it effectively prohibits extended a subkey expiring 2018-12-31 to 2019-12-31 two weeks before, since that exceeds one year maximum -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://p

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 03/11] glep-0063: Clarify dedicated signing subkey in minimal reqs

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/04/2018 12:59 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Or maybe even make a separate point about having a separate signing > subkey? > Right, that is likely also easier to understand. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 30

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 03/11] glep-0063: Clarify dedicated signing subkey in minimal reqs

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/04/2018 12:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu śro, 04.07.2018 o godzinie 12∶35 +0200, użytkownik Kristian > Fiskerstrand napisał: >> On 07/04/2018 12:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> -2. Root key and signing subkey of EITHER: >>> +2. Root key and a dedicated

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2 03/11] glep-0063: Clarify dedicated signing subkey in minimal reqs

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/04/2018 12:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > -2. Root key and signing subkey of EITHER: > +2. Root key and a dedicated signing subkey, both of EITHER: "dedicated" here might be misread to be gentoo-specific, which doesn't really make much sense. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 5/4] glep-0063: Allow ECC keys

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/04/2018 11:09 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > I honestly don't think Gentoo is the distribution where we let people > stay with obsolete versions for 'smaller footprint'. 1.4 isn't obsolete, it is still maintained as separate branch upstream. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock rea

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 5/4] glep-0063: Allow ECC keys

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
for its smaller footprint etc. If we conclude that the git repo is internal and not to be exposed to end-users per se, but distribution happens in curated git or rsync I agree it is not an issue. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 5/4] glep-0063: Allow ECC keys

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
to accept them for various reasons. There are good reasons these are not provided in the regular interface of gnupg, but requires --expert -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 5/4] glep-0063: Allow ECC keys

2018-07-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
so that is less of a concern now than back in the day. But there aren't really very strong arguments in favor of ecc, and in the case of quantum computation there less protection offered from ecc due to smaller key sizes. We also keep gnupg 1.4 in tree that does not, and will not, support ecc. -- Krist

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: why are we still distributing the portage tree via rsync?

2018-07-03 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
I would expect as much. But my primary argument would be key management related, it is simply impossible to present a raw copy of our repo to end-users and have them verify each commit Original message From: William Hubbs Date: 7/3/18 17:39 (GMT+01:00) To:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Trustless Infrastructure

2018-07-02 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ITM that removes new version of some packages > and related GLSAs in order to force the user to stay at vulnerable > version. > right, just to point out, this is already covered in the metamanifest signing scheme, but wouldn't be in a separate file signing mechanism. -- Kristian Fiske

Re: [gentoo-dev] Trustless Infrastructure

2018-07-02 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
g keys for distribution to end-users. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Trustless Infrastructure

2018-07-02 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
> ACLs that I think you were hinting at before. So, sure, if you want to > call for an abolition of rsync, maybe I'd follow you in that direction > instead of the one here I'm proposing. > > picking a semi-random post to respond to, but the key management you're introducing with such a p

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo-dev whitelisting

2018-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
quired. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-22 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
g emails is a pain if you don't use an MUA that has this > feature, and the web-based ones which do aren't very good. > -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-21 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ost discussion should anyways happen on -project ML, whereby the -dev ML is technical in nature. So there isn't any real restriction being imposed here. Most contributions should happen via patches on b.g.o -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-21 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
that the whitelisting approach allows for those opposing to start a project for -dev ML moderation that is similar to editbugs and proxy maintenance as we currently have in the project. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-21 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 03/22/2018 12:56 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Kristian Fiskerstrand schrieb: > >> Switching to mailman might have some good merits on its own, but as I >> understand it it isn't necessary for the proposal at hand, that can be >> solved using access contro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-20 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ts is going to be fun, > but them the breaks. Switching to mailman might have some good merits on its own, but as I understand it it isn't necessary for the proposal at hand, that can be solved using access control lists in mlmmj-process? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-20 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
council meetings on the matter where it was clearly put on the agenda. The bug in question is just a technical matter of implementing a final decision. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-03-20 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
alias g-dev-whitelist) > This was not put in effect on 23 January 2018, however I have now requested infra to put it in place in [bug 650964]. Users wishing posting permissions are encouraged to find a mentor and register in [bug 644070] References: [bug 650964] https://bugs.gentoo.org/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: app-crypt/monkeysign

2018-02-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 02/13/2018 11:47 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 02/12/2018 08:59 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> # Kristian Fiskerstrand <k...@gentoo.org> (11 Feb 2018) >> # Lastrite: app-crypt/monkeysign . Please use caff from >> # app-crypt/signing-party instead. Removal in

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: app-crypt/monkeysign

2018-02-11 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
# Kristian Fiskerstrand <k...@gentoo.org> (11 Feb 2018) # Lastrite: app-crypt/monkeysign . Please use caff from # app-crypt/signing-party instead. Removal in 30 days. # Bug: #647352 app-crypt/monkeysign -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fp

eclass committ message verbosity (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] bzr.eclass: Add --overwrite-tags option to pull command.)

2018-02-06 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 02/06/2018 03:36 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> More generally though, should we start requiring more verbose commit >> messages for eclasses to make it easier to trace changes in our git >> repo d

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] bzr.eclass: Add --overwrite-tags option to pull command.

2018-02-06 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
epo directly without reaching out to bugs? At least including summaries of the respective bugs as a short description? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: Correct/clarify SSL/TLS-related flags

2018-01-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
presented to be. It doesn't mean never install gnutls, but just not preferring it in cases where there are other providers of ssl/tls, that the global description already indicate. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: Correct/clarify SSL/TLS-related flags

2018-01-30 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ons a bit. Make sure to mention both SSL and TLS > to avoid confusion. Inform about the necessity of enabling USE=ssl > in both implementation flags, and replace 'might' with 'if present'. > +1 / Reviewed-By -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] [News item review] Portage rsync tree verification

2018-01-25 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
root:Valid OpenPGP signature found: INFO:root:- primary key: > 1234567890ABCDEF1234567890ABCDEF12345678 INFO:root:- subkey: > FEDCBA0987654321FEDCBA0987654321FEDCBA09 > > The primary key printed must match 'Gentoo Portage Snapshot Signing > Key' on the site. Please make sure to also ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-16 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/16/2018 03:45 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > Given the situation, we have a choice: Remove GnuCash altogether, or > press ahead with recommending a version upstream considers unstable. Or 3, discuss with upstream to see if they can release an updated version as stable branch. -- Kr

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-16 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ckages. That said, I agree with the overall premise of discussion, and stability guarantees for the stable keywords, have anyone been in contact with upstream and discussed the issue of getting a stable release branch not based on the old webkit? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
orrect approach, seems like an elog could satisfy this -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GnuCash 2.7+ Breaking Change

2018-01-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
es / auto-upgrades schema, maybe it should be stated explicitly early on? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: ideas for fixing OpenRC checkpath issue

2018-01-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
already in https://bugs.gentoo.org/540006#c15 -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deleting old news items

2018-01-06 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
(although that doesn't exclude the possibility of getting feed of all messages, which is already part of git repository) -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/05/2018 11:47 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/05/2018 11:40 PM, Alec Warner wrote: >>> I might sound like a broken CD here, but why define the expiration as >>> part of the news format instead of specifying it in the package manager >>> as a user defin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
rt of the user base. There are rather big differences e.g between a server upgrade pattern and a desktop system, how would you account for that in the expire date? in particular for non security relevant upgrades, e.g profile changes? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
as a user defined variable? Various use cases requires different treatment, so leaving it up to user seems more relevant to me, and we could allow information to be presented as part of stages to give a hint for what dates to look for? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-03 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/03/2018 03:13 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/03/2018 02:45 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:23:33 +0100 >> Kristian Fiskerstrand <k...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> Do we necessarily need to do even that? A package manager could have a >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-03 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/03/2018 02:45 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:23:33 +0100 > Kristian Fiskerstrand <k...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> Do we necessarily need to do even that? A package manager could have a >> feature to mask based on other heuristics without changin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-03 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ed on other heuristics without changing the format, e.g all messages from before X, presumably with a switch to show older. I'm thinking along the lines of only show those published within last 12 months by default, configurable by make.conf variable. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock rea

Re: [gentoo-dev] AMD64 Arch Testers needed urgently

2017-12-14 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
userland policy (but even they fail from time to time). For rest of the applications, even if we add tools to help automate part of the stabilization, I'd very much oppose it being automated without being initiated / acked by the maintainer. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachab

Re: [gentoo-dev] AMD64 Arch Testers needed urgently

2017-12-14 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
dency hell from it). That said, you can have a stable chroot, or just use a VM for testing etc. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
up doesn't add additional value to the discussion. So again, please reduce the volume of such posts. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 12/05/2017 11:41 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 12/05/2017 11:37 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Honestly, I'm not really a big fan of even on-topic posts from people >> who have caused a lot of harm to others in private. I'm not sure >> which is the lesser evil

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
ind of abuse of other members? We do not, but that presumes actual abuse has been demonstrated. "spamming the mailing list", where the posts are regarding Gentoo, isn't automatically abuse because some people are uncomfortable about the information being presented, or they disagree

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 12/05/2017 11:25 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand <k...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On 12/05/2017 11:12 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-05 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
mailing lists? This doesn't seem relevant to the matter of splitting the lists, and would certainly be a matter for comrel. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: OT Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 12/04/2017 10:36 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Sorry last one, directed to Alec, but all should read. I hope you really mean that, we've all heard you complaining about this too many times already. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC v2: news item for the 17.0 profiles

2017-11-28 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 10/10/2017 09:16 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > emerge -e world we should use "@world" for sets to be consistent with recommendations to users here. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th

2017-10-20 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
Propter Hoc -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th

2017-10-20 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
s of MetaManifests in Portage. -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reinstating old-school GLEPs masterplan

2017-09-11 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
wiki review and editing is a reasonable argument, but we probably don't want to rush a change again. Maybe we should start by defining a set of criteria / RFP for how we would like the GLEP process to be and the format required? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hk

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC pre-GLEP] Gentoo Git Workflow

2017-09-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
to even know what the proposed changes > are you should also visit the link. This violates the gentoo social contract, please keep the discussion on the mailing list -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED

Re: [gentoo-dev] [FRC] News item: Changing USE flags for >=app-backup/bacula

2017-08-15 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
, fonts, most drivers, non-critical features)", so I'd say it is appropriate -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [FRC] News item: Changing USE flags for >=app-backup/bacula

2017-08-15 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 08/15/2017 11:33 AM, tom...@gentoo.org wrote: > Quoting Kristian Fiskerstrand (2017-08-15 10:37:39) >> On 08/15/2017 12:29 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>> On pon, 2017-08-14 at

Re: [gentoo-dev] [FRC] News item: Changing USE flags for >=app-backup/bacula

2017-08-15 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
isguise. clientonly = noserver. Can the "minimum"-use flag be utilized here? -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Prevent binary/non-compiled packages from binary package creation

2017-08-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
quot;virtual/* sys-kernel/*-sources dev-perl/* >> perl-core/*" > Something like this would NOT be desirable. It would have to be done on > every system. It would have to be set on every binhost, not every client system.. that said, I prefer env approach as it is easier to track

Re: [gentoo-dev] Prevent binary/non-compiled packages from binary package creation

2017-08-08 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
e? Could you provide a link or example? > Thanks! try something like: /etc/portage/env/nobin: FEATURES="-buildpkg" /etc/portage/package.env/nobin: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources nobin -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034

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