[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] crypto@ packages up for grabs

2020-01-09 Thread Mike Auty
I'd like to claim: > app-crypt/ssdeep and > app-crypt/xca I'll add my information to the metadata.xml for them... Mike 5:) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] acceptable alternatives to -Werror, was: Changing policy about -Werror

2018-09-13 Thread Mike Auty
Hiya, On 13/09/2018 01:23, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Installation will proceed, but the user will get a big fat warning that > the sys-fs/zfs package is potentially broken. This seems like a sure-fire way to make users paranoid and/or desensitized? People will learn to ignore

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-vcs/giggle

2018-06-22 Thread Mike Auty
# Mike Auty (22 Jun 2018) # Not maintained upstream, at least one bug and three upstream bugs # Removal in 30 days. Bug #658264 dev-vcs/giggle Mike 5:) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to deal with git sources?

2018-03-11 Thread Mike Auty
its own package doesn't help because it's installed under /usr/share/mypy/typeshed, not /usr/share/typeshed so it really is part of mypy (for now). So I'll see how this goes and listen for feedback... Mike 5:) On 11/03/18 18:05, Mike Auty wrote: > Hiya, > > I'm trying to update/packag

[gentoo-dev] How to deal with git sources?

2018-03-11 Thread Mike Auty
Hiya, I'm trying to update/package up mypy for the main tree which, whilst it provides a release tarball, relies upon a data library (typeshed) which does not provide releases. The recommended method of installation by upstream is to use git submodules (which the ebuild will do happily), but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2018-03-10 Thread Mike Auty
On 10/03/18 14:52, Pacho Ramos wrote: > This packages are now up for grabs: > ... > dev-python/mypy > ... I can look after this one if nobody else wants it? Mike 5:) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: baselayout 2.5 changes

2018-02-10 Thread Mike Auty
On 08/02/18 20:55, Mike Gilbert wrote: > However, there are plenty of examples of commands that normal users > may run from sbin. Hiya, I'm not really for or against the idea, but whenever the justification for something is "there are plenty of examples" it's really helpful to have a number of

Re: [gentoo-dev] bzipped manpages

2017-01-09 Thread Mike Auty
Hiya Jan, The following snippet from Ingo is correct: > So, you want to hear something constructive? Your best option is to > just decompress that stuff on your system. (Gentoo is famous for > its excessive configurability - maybe there is even an option?) We are both famous for our excessive

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer GitHub usernames

2016-11-21 Thread Mike Auty
Sorry for the spam! Apparently the sender of list mails isn't the actual author of the message. 5:S Mike 5:) On 21/11/16 09:27, Mike Auty wrote: > Hiya, > > It wasn't clear how to get added to the github team in the first place, > but I've got the same username on github as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer GitHub usernames

2016-11-21 Thread Mike Auty
Hiya, It wasn't clear how to get added to the github team in the first place, but I've got the same username on github as I use for my gentoo handle (ikelos). I've also now got my ike...@gentoo.org GPG key verified on there if you're after confirmation. Thanks! Mike 5:) On 21/11/16 09:01,

Re: [gentoo-dev] .git folder getting mirrored to rsync mirrors

2015-11-29 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, I also experienced this (on 2a01:488:67:1000:b01c:3277:0:1). It will also prevent portage from resyncing because it assumes the portage tree is under revision control (when there's just git directories, no actual data). It looks like infra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-07 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On 07/02/15 05:16, Ben de Groot wrote: I discussed this beforehand with said developer on IRC. Ok, that wasn't clear from the commit message. Do you think a news item to explain this situation and giving explicit instructions for users who

Re: [gentoo-dev] ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-06 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On 06/02/15 11:49, Ben de Groot wrote: Since we introduced the libav useflag, we have now a way to finally make mpv-0.7* (using the upstream recommended ffmpeg as default) visible to ~arch users, without the need to unmask it. Users who

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-06 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On 06/02/15 08:48, Duncan wrote: Daniel Campbell posted on Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:55:05 -0800 as excerpted: As a user and prospective developer, why? Transparency is important to open communities like Gentoo's, and reading the discussions

Re: [gentoo-dev] ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-04 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Whilst the default *is* still in place (and particularly after the recent news article detailing that users should be using libav), could we please keep commits like the following until *after* we've made an agreed upon decision please?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding large files to the mirrors?

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, First off, thanks everybody for the suggestions. It seems like people aren't keen to mirror the large tables on our mirrors, but no one's mentioned a reason for not doing so. Is there an infra reason behind that or did everyone just take my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Adding large files to the mirrors?

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/10/13 12:01, Duncan wrote: If it's a core requirement, no problem. But the further from core requirement it gets the more sensitive infra seems to be about non- trivial space requirements, and any way you look at it, 30 gigs of rainbow

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding large files to the mirrors?

2013-10-16 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, On 16/10/13 12:54, Francesco R. wrote: Il 16/10/2013 11:15, Mike Auty ha scritto: Add a bash script that can download all the files and mention it in postinst. the script will download all the files in current directory and put them

[gentoo-dev] Adding large files to the mirrors?

2013-10-15 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, I'm updating the app-crypt/ophcrack-tables package to include the new tables available from their site. These are basically just additional data packages that can be useful with the app-crypt/ophcrack package, but they're very large.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/08/13 23:42, Wulf C. Krueger wrote: On 09.08.2013 02:26, Mike Auty wrote: I could be a KDE developer, or a Gentoo documenter, or work on mplayer. All those people are open source contributors and necessary ones, but that doesn't mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/13 00:45, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: They thought deeply about the changes that are being made to the desktop, and they discussed it and reached a consensus about what the direction of the project is; you can usually read about in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/08/13 10:35, Tom Wijsman wrote: Listening comes at a price; you can't listen to everyone at the same time, all you will hear is noise because all the voices clash. So, you've got to listen to a selective bit of users and satisfy them;

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/08/13 21:32, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:11:55 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 9 August 2013 21:57, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: This one is *so special* just because we have a few folks which really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/08/13 11:38, Samuli Suominen wrote: i'm not volunteering but I never really got why our GNOME maintainers insisted on staying with it instead of going with the distribution after it was clear logind is a dead end on non-systemd systemd Ok,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/08/13 22:06, Pacho Ramos wrote: Anyway, are you sure openRC is better than systemd for desktop systems (for deserving the effort to keep maintaining consolekit, that is currently orphan, cgroups stuff and any other things I am probably

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/08/13 00:19, Greg KH wrote: Become upstream developers and create fixes to remove the dependancy either by working on openrc features to emulate the same things that systemd has that GNOME requires, or split things out of GNOME so that it

Re: [gentoo-dev] mercurial.eclass: change clone destination

2010-11-07 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/10 02:40, Donnie Berkholz wrote: I read it more closely and realized I was a little confused by the way you listed all the bullet points mixing together benefits and problems. So I'll try again: if you really want to do this change, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Repoman to autogenerate ChangeLog entries

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It should be possible to still maintain this distinction, something like: Version bump. Added feature foo. - -- Feature foo required a complete rewrite of src_install. And then the ChangeLog generation can happen separately. The problem with this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/08/10 18:26, Olivier Crête wrote: Other distributions are going one step further and are going for shell-free boot. We should follow that lead. Why? Presumably they're doing it by writing programs that do their own parsing and executing,

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-editors/vim-7.3 and python[3] USE flags

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd thought that the new eclass was designed to ensure that if you asked for USE=python it was built for as many different python ABIs as was installed on your system (so python2 and python3 if they're both installed). I believe it's possible to ask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Over using preserve_old_lib, don't do that

2010-07-15 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry I'm a bit late to the thread, Just to add that empathy preserves libemapthy in this manner too. On 05/07/10 17:40, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: 1. How is it different than preserved-libs feature from portage-2.2 ? The issue

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Over using preserve_old_lib, don't do that

2010-07-15 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/07/10 14:57, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: And what about using portage 2.2 and be done with it. I don't see the point in reinventing the wheel yet again. I'm using portage-2.2 and have been since it first came out. I find the @set notation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/06/10 15:33, Arun Raghavan wrote: Why not just gintrospection? I still think introspection is easier to grok. It's unlikely that it's going to be used in a completely different sense by other packages in the future, so let's stick with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-22 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/06/10 18:11, Arun Raghavan wrote: It is not a GNOME-only flag. A general introspection flag may not be, but this isn't a general introspection flag, this is specific to gobject and the suggestions try to clarify that. People who want

Re: [gentoo-dev] sudo vs su

2010-02-28 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya William, Sudo can be used to restrict access, so that only certain programs can be run using it. It asks for your password rather than the user you're trying to login to (unlike su). It also helps maintain a more accurate audit trail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-forensics/foremost: ChangeLog foremost-1.5.6.ebuild

2009-11-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Lauer wrote: At least I'm trying to keep these packages alive, which noone else seems to do. If you spot that a new version is available, you're more than welcome to post a version bump bug assigned to the appropriate herd and developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass: lacking sources, config checks and module building

2009-08-31 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, Here's the list of ebuilds that feature a CONFIG_CHECK, and which ones I've been through to check for either NONEED (already using ~option), MODULE (builds a module so may really want to bomb out), and FIXED (packages which I've fixed). About

Re: [gentoo-dev] About udev-145: new features / extras and kernel requirements

2009-08-30 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 William Hubbs wrote: I agree here. The eclass should check /proc/config.gz. Also, another reason to use the eclass is it respects KBUILD_OUTPUT if it is set. - From the indenting I can't tell if you wrote this or not, however, we need to

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass: lacking sources, config checks and module building

2009-08-30 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: It does NOT check /proc/config.gz presently. The original logic against not checking /proc was that we were targeting the kernel being built, but that's moot given the use of `uname -r` in OUTPUT_DIR. I might be reading the

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass: lacking sources, config checks and module building

2009-08-30 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: FYI: get_running_version is used in one single ebuild, in the entire tree: sys-fs/evms/evms-2.5.5-r10.ebuild And there it's only for a warning. Ok, I was just suggesting that if there was an intention to implement

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass: lacking sources, config checks and module building

2009-08-30 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: The existing state is: - Force the user to install sources Our choices are: - `uname -r` output. - Create an override environment variable for all the checks. /proc/config.gz comes back here again, in that, we can use

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass: lacking sources, config checks and module building

2009-08-30 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: Yes, a warning with using /proc/config.gz. I missed a bit for the config option. If there is NO source of the config data, what do we do? Error out or more warnings? Well, if we can't determine whether a config option's

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass: lacking sources, config checks and module building

2009-08-30 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: If you feel like reviewing ~140 packages and filing bugs for them, I won't stop you. But I'm just going to go and fix the ones that seem simple enough to me, and only file bugs for the complex ones. Ok, I'll do what I can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Standalone libstdc++

2009-06-26 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Казанков Александр Владимирович wrote: Hello. Hi, Could you please file all this information (and the output from emerge - --info at https://bugs.gentoo.org/. This mailing list is for technical discussions, whereas the bug tracker at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding Nipper license to the tree

2009-06-15 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: The website stills says GPL v3: http://nipper.titania.co.uk/licensing.php Yep, the website's going to be updated for version 1.0 (with the license change). ... I can't really comment on a lot of this, unfortunately.

[gentoo-dev] Adding Nipper license to the tree

2009-06-14 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya guys, One of the packages I maintain (nipper) has recently undergone a change of license, from being GPLed to a new license that whilst mostly being commercial features a non-commercial/personal use element. Due to the new license (and the no

[gentoo-dev] The VMware packages are in need of a maintainer

2009-05-23 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, Last week I stepped down from the vmware herd, and since I was the only member left, there are no more maintainers for the vmware packages in the tree. The current packages are vmware-workstation, vmware-server, vmware-player,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-23 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roy Marples wrote: Attached is the new conf.d/net sample. Sorry, I missed those. Did lists.g.o remove them, or were they not attached? As such, a side project I've started is a new ifconfig tool [1] to handle everything from vlans, to bridging,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-22 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Faulhammer wrote: What else? As some of you might foresee, this can be as hard as a major GCC stabilisation, so it must be well-planned and organised. Depends on which version of openrc gets stabilized in the process. We're currently

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-22 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: Or should I file the bugs? It seems no one else has and maybe the maintainers don't have the config for what they're maintaining, or otherwise don't see the warnings. I'm aware of the dm-crypt issue and will try and spend some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Git eclass update

2009-03-04 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: I am throwing in full new eclass [1] and its diff [2]. Errr, maybe it's my eyes, but it looks as though the new eclass isn't the same as the existing eclass with the diff applied (for instance, git_src_prepare doesn't get called

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-25 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: 3) EAPI in locked down place in the ebuild c) .ebuild in current directory - needs one year wait I'm all for 1 or 3c, because we're not in any rush. I don't see why there's such an immediate need to make as drastic changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] About prepalldocs

2009-02-18 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: So until we have a decision on what the replacement will be I don't see a need to remove current prepalldocs usage but any new usage must be avoided. If it's simply discouraged, perhaps a repoman check, and some people to come

Re: Fwd: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge

2009-02-12 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Emma Strubell wrote: There must be a faster python pickler out there, though, any recommendations? Right off the bat, you might try cPickle. It should work identically, just faster. Also you can try importing psyco, if it's present it will try

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emulation/vmware-esx-console

2009-02-01 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 # Mike Auty ike...@gentoo.org (1 Feb 2009) # Masked for removal in 30 days. Old and unmaintained. # Vmware herd has no access to the product, and it's # for a very old version. See bug 143232. app-emulation/vmware-esx-console -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Advice regarding backporting to Gentoo from Tin Hat.

2009-01-31 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya Anthony, First off, it certainly sounds interesting and making it more accessible (simple ebuild setup and so on) seems like a good plan even if it doesn't get picked up officially. The best way to start development would probably be an

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLI Officially Deprecated

2009-01-14 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I realize it might be a bit obvious to us, but from reading it people might wonder how they're supposed to carry out installs now. When the notice finally goes out, it might be worth mentioning that just the LiveCDs are no longer supported, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-06 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: Neither set of rules is ideal. Ordering makes a lot of sense when you just read it. Consider metadata with multiple maintainers and multiple herds. Either you have to start assigning explicitly (requires editing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-04 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeroen Roovers wrote: I spotted that too but didn't remember putting it in black and white. :) The order (first maintainer as assignee or first maintainer/herd as assignee) is open to discussion and I think this is the proper forum to have that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-04 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Buchholz wrote: Accepting the fact that different teams have different preferences, we need to find a solution for them to set theirs individually. This could either be the order of elements in metadata.xml (and would set the preference

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-04 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Buchholz wrote: * Order in metadata.xml is what dictates assignee, i.e.: The first herd or maintainer listed in the metadata.xml of the first CAT or CAT/PN is who is assignee, all other follow as CC. Great work, just wanted to double

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Use full package atoms for bug reports

2009-01-04 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: Amarok2 - dev-db/mysql-community - ld: /usr/lib64/mysql/libmysqld.a (client.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `client_errors' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC Well, I fixed this individual

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] search functionality in emerge

2008-11-23 Thread Mike Auty
Hiya Emma, Good luck on your project. A couple of things to be weary of are disk I/O, metadata cache backends and overlays. Disk I/O can be a significant bottleneck. Loading up a lot of files from disk (be it the metadata cache or whatever) can take a long time initially, but then be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

2008-09-10 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: Maybe the best solution is to drop the non-prefixed versions of 'world' and 'system' completely Deprecating the old syntax sounds like a sensible action to get people shifted onto the new system. I imagine it would work

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Santiago M. Mola wrote: If you're just dealing with the default phases, it's not too hard to say in advance the exact command that will be executed. If that's the case, why go so far as to define three new variables and potentially put them out in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Buchholz wrote: How is using the eclass better for bandwidth usage? It won't allow for mirroring, and all users would have to checkout the repository from one place. Furthermore, you cannot have (signed) Manifests that allow integrity

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Buchholz wrote: How is using the eclass better for bandwidth usage? It won't allow for mirroring, and all users would have to checkout the repository from one place. Furthermore, you cannot have (signed) Manifests that allow integrity

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New RESTRICT=live value for identification of live ebuilds?

2008-08-02 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It seems, Slightly like an abuse of the RESTRICT variable. I had thought that RESTRICT was generally for when a normal ebuild needed a feature turning off (such as mirroring, strict checking and hopefully one day ccache). 5:) Overloading it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New RESTRICT=live value for identification of live ebuilds?

2008-08-02 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zac Medico wrote: | Honestly I don't care what the existing scheme is. Fair enough, I don't maintain the code or have to deal with the complaints. It seems a waste to abandon an existing scheme though. Particularly since RESTRICT is an odd name

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [2/4] proto-GLEPS for Tree-signing

2008-07-29 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, I lost my notes from when I last looked these over several months ago, and only just found them again. I haven't copied this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so let me know if I should do that. I just had a quick couple of things I was thinking

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-11 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Kelly wrote: | Wrong. Thanks for that. I'm gonna assume you meant I think you're wrong. | Sure, because of how the algorithm works, people could potentially do | both, but the GLEP makes it pretty clear that they shouldn't. It doesn't just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55

2008-06-10 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | No, it results in a new open() on a file that's elsewhere on disk, which | results in two new seeks. You get about fifty seeks per second. The speed issues aren't really a concern, since the GLEP suggests that the ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS

2008-05-31 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulrich Mueller wrote: | But maybe Emacs is an uncommon application, or I am looking for the | wrong things? Could one of the experts please shed some light on this? I think you're looking for the wrong things. I'm not an expert, but I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-30 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Volkov wrote: | Is there any reason why --as-needed is not enabled by default? There's still about 18 open bugs on the tracker[1] for it. You can see how many problems it had been causing by the huge number of blocking bugs. I've been using

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: | The purpose of this is to keep the system operational after library | upgrades until all affected packages could be rebuilt and to simplify | the process, not to avoid the rebuilds. I couldn't find it mentioned in your email,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new 'virtualization' project or herd

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tiziano Müller wrote: | That's true. How about having a virtualization project which takes care of | the common part, the docs and the coordination (if any) and have separate | herds for larger subprojects? Sounds ideal. 5:) Mike 5:) -BEGIN

Re: [gentoo-dev] retirement

2008-04-22 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya Duncs, Sorry to hear your time constraints have gotten the better of you finally. Best of luck with well-typed, I hope it proves interesting and that you bring much Haskelly joy to the world... 5;) Mike 5:) -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alon Bar-Lev wrote: | If we know there may be a future problem, why make the next *VALID* | addition perform extra work? I think the reasoning is that whilst there may be a future problem, there currently isn't. If it gets changed to gnome-keyring,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: | Yeah, you only need access to one ebuild to do whatever you want to | user's systems. Perhaps then we should direct more of our efforts towards the GPG package signing system, so that when a dev becomes a libability, their keys

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | | Signing offers no protection against a malicious developer. | I had envisaged a system whereby when the tree was synced, as was some kind of master signed list of all acceptable dev-keys. Every package would also be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: | It's about quality not quantity maybe? It's about both, and getting the balance right is effectively what this boils down to (as do many discussions on -dev). There's those devs who want high levels of QA and those

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Mike Auty
Petteri Räty wrote: Defining required amount of activity for ebuild devs. I would like us to raise the required amount of activity for ebuild devs. Given that the low number of developers is ranked as our number one problem in Donnie's informal survey[1], taking any kind of action against

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-02 Thread Mike Auty
Petteri Räty wrote: If you can't manage weekly commits, you can't respond to security issues either. I can see your point, I was more thinking about developers who have maybe one or two small packages that don't have many version bumps or bugs. They may be entirely able to respond to

Re: [gentoo-dev] iptables and libiptc

2008-02-21 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jo, It appears that bug 177978 answers your question. Apparently libiptc wasn't meant to be a public interface and is intended to be removed from the iptables pacakge[2]. Hope this helps answer your question. Please do have a good hunt

Re: [gentoo-dev] retiring + looking maintainers for sendmail, tenshi, scapy, ftester

2008-02-06 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to see you leave, I can maintain scapy if no one else wants to? Mike 5:) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHqglzu7rWomwgFXoRAismAJ4+4D50v0k6VSRfEfRV4mMiBP9QHACeLHJB 1IYpKEqzWFsdiFYXG7IJyhc=

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why isn't /root/.bash_profile in the stage tarballs?

2007-09-20 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John R. Graham wrote: Mike, I agree. But, the file that _must_ exist isn't ~/.bashrc but ~/.bash_profile. That's where the that particular bit of man-page-defined behavior is implemented. If ~/.bash_profile doesn't exist, then ~/.bashrc won't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Cryptsetup changes

2007-08-15 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dirk, Could you please describe the problem you faced? From the detail you gave, it sounds as though you might not have moved /etc/conf.d/cryptfs to /etc/conf.d/dmcrypt. There's currently several ewarn lines saying that this must be done

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC : New ebuild function pkg_create for creating corespondent sorce tarball

2007-07-17 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vlastimil Babka wrote: I think he wants to do exactly that, but having the code needed for this right in the ebuild, so it can benefit from varibles like PV and versionator eclass for converting PV to e.g. CVS tags... I think it's quite elegant

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated extended information gathering

2007-07-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kent Fredric wrote: Ok, I've re-thought some of my ideas and tried to come up with a more concise explanation with some practical example syntax. The basic concept of 'check' was 'this will work even if the package aint installed yet' and info

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It can also, Be used by kismet, but it's not clear whether there are strong bindings there, or if espeak could easily be substituted using kismet.conf. Dunno if that's useful or not, but there you go... Mike 5:) -BEGIN PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] What's it about, anyway?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tobias, As a mostly under-spoken developer, I'd like to say that there are many other developers in Gentoo than just those seen regularly on -dev. We also add ebuilds to the tree, but tend to be content minding our own little corner of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux 2.6.21 plans

2007-05-08 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, Reading over the discussion on lkml, it appears that it only affects x86_64 systems... Mike 5:) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGQQlpu7rWomwgFXoRAhzPAJ94Dcg/S0a6dtHodXRyPRgRT4CS0gCdHSW2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-04-01 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: However, now that PMS is finally about to provide what should be a definitive description of current generation package behavior, with the announced intention to update this with new versions into the future as required, the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-04-01 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: The point being, however, that all this quarreling about official package managers doesn't /really/ have to happen. [...] I just don't see why so many are spending so much time arguing over it, when regardless, people are going to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-06 Thread Mike Auty
Or perhaps, Something a little more explicit might work? In instances such as the ifconfig lines, it's to create eth0 aliases (such as eth0:0), so perhaps that could look like: ifconfig_eth0:0 = 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_eth0:1 = 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 For

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Masked by corruption

2006-12-20 Thread Mike Auty
Jim, I opened bug 158632, so that's worth looking at. It also points to a post on the forums about the problem. I can't add much to the discussion myself, just that it affected two of my machines differently which I found rather odd (one has difficulty with all versions of mpc, the other

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.18 going stable in 1 week

2006-10-20 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not certain, That turning vanilla-sources into linux-sources is wise, since it would then follow that gentoo-sources become gentoo-linux-sources, and so on for all the other linux variants. Since everybody knows and understands what

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Alon Bar-Lev (alonbl)

2006-10-06 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya Alon! Congratulations, your bug contributions so far have been supremely helpful, I'm really glad to see you made the leap to developer. Welcome aboard! 5:) Mike 5:) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5

[gentoo-dev] Proposed eclasses: vmware and vmware-mod

2006-07-27 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, The Gentoo vmware team have been developing new ebuilds for vmware-workstation, vmware-player and vmware-server (and vmware-server-console), to help ease the maintenance of the shared modules and shared patches between these products.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Mike Auty
Forgive me, I'm a little new at this and I really don't want to get involved, but since my inbox has seen nothing but this for the past day or two, I'm going to ask a few questions I'm interested in the answers to... First and foremost is, will adding this to the tree be used for

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