Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: FRC: debtools herd creation

2008-05-20 Thread Natanael Copa
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 20:06 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Yuri Vasilevski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will be adding some debian build tools to the tree, and would like to create the debtools herd to associate with the packages. Just please don't add Debian-OpenSSL ;)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-07 Thread Natanael Copa
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 16:23 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: I'd be happy if some other unpacker is used than lzma-utils - one that does not depend on libstdc++ - I'm sure it can be done, heck it's done in integrated form in some other projects in less than a couple kilobytes of code for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing to see if services have crashed on hardened

2008-03-21 Thread Natanael Copa
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 10:20 +, Roy Marples wrote: Hi List. I've just removed the code to check for euid when running services and instead relying on permissions of the service state dir and testing errno. This is a good thing, but it does have one side effect. OpenRC can track

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing to see if services have crashed on hardened

2008-03-21 Thread Natanael Copa
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 12:08 +, Roy Marples wrote: On Friday 21 March 2008 10:44:12 Natanael Copa wrote: err... run rc-status as root? I mean if you are not supposed to see if a process is running or not as normal user, then hardned is doin it's job when does not allow rc-status

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-14 Thread Natanael Copa
On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 10:09 +0100, Jan Kundrát wrote: Natanael Copa wrote: So since I build a distro where size does matter (uclibc) I realised that even if I submit bugs for broken RDEPEND, there will never be an end to those bug reports. Looking at this thread, it seems i was right

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me a lot of headaches (along with localizations). For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105 I'm another distro builder that uses

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Natanael Copa
Rémi Cardona wrote: Natanael Copa a écrit : But somethimes you just need to accept we don't live in a perfect world. I understood early that nobody cares that much about binpkgs anyway and moved on. I'd say you're mistaken. A lot of people care about binpkg. It's not because a majority

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Natanael Copa
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 14:34 +0100, Natanael Copa wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:35 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me a lot of headaches (along with localizations). For reference, please have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-10 Thread Natanael Copa
On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 21:21 -0800, Alec Warner wrote: On 3/9/08, Natanael Copa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 19:48 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: What exact time constraints and responsibilities are people afraid of? Are those concerns real or just myths

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-09 Thread Natanael Copa
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 19:48 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: What exact time constraints and responsibilities are people afraid of? Are those concerns real or just myths? As someone who just sent in the quiz, yes its real concerns. What scared me off mostly is the gentoo politics. The entire

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-02-02 Thread Natanael Copa
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 08:54 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 01 February 2008, Natanael Copa wrote: On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:46 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2008, Natanael Copa wrote: ... I can create a bug on this so we get rid of both perl and debianutils

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-02-01 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:46 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2008, Natanael Copa wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 12:35 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 080128 Mike Frysinger wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-31 Thread Natanael Copa
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 12:35 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 080128 Mike Frysinger wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is part of

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and portable

2007-11-02 Thread Natanael copa
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 01:19 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 02-11-2007 17:35:08 +, Roy Marples wrote: I don't see them as inferior. I see them as more portable and less confusing. Please stop calling it more portable. The shell code you see in configure can in a way be called

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Opinions Wanted - Arrays again :)

2007-10-29 Thread Natanael Copa
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 06:46 +, Steve Long wrote: Failing that, a plaintext config file along the lines discussed in [1] would be cool. awk could parse it pretty quickly. [1] http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/b//archives/2007/01/20/T11_58_29/ Something like Debian's /etc/network/interfaces?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass)

2007-10-09 Thread Natanael Copa
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 20:25 +0100, Steve Long wrote: Natanael Copa wrote: If you're that motivated why not just start hacking on binary support in portage/pkgcore/paludis? There's always open bugs. I think I did contribute with some patches for qmerge in portage-utils. Unfortunally, its

[gentoo-dev] GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass)

2007-10-08 Thread Natanael Copa
On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 21:26 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: Fabian has summed it up nicely, thanks. i could care less what your userland is outside of the ebuild environment since it doesnt matter to ebuild writers. you want a deficient runtime environment, more

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass)

2007-10-08 Thread Natanael Copa
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 06:52 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: On 10/8/07, Natanael Copa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 21:26 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: Fabian has summed it up nicely, thanks. i could care less what your userland is outside

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Natanael Copa
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 23:30 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: On Monday 01 October 2007 22:59:40 Roy Marples wrote: This version, I believe, is more readable and maintainable then the one currently in portage. It also uses a lot less code and has the bonus of being pure sh. It should be noted

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Natanael Copa
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 09:29 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 01-10-2007 22:59:40 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: I would like to propse a new versionator.eclass for consideration (attached). This version, I believe, is more readable and maintainable then the one currently in portage. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Natanael Copa
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 05:39 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: I don't think there is a technical reason to avoid using bash. Ofcourse there is. See first issue mentioned in BUGS section in bash manpage. -nc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Natanael Copa
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 09:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 02 October 2007, Luca Barbato wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: in the general case, dash will typically parse faster than bash. but is this speed gain relevant ? if dash can parse an ebuild in 10% of the time that it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-servers/nginx: ChangeLog nginx-0.6.13.ebuild nginx-0.6.12.ebuild

2007-09-26 Thread Natanael Copa
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 00:43 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 07:16 Tue 25 Sep , Konstantin Arkhipov (voxus) wrote: voxus 07/09/25 07:16:42 I take it that, for some obscure reason, use_with() doesn't work? if [ ! -f /etc/ssl/${PN}/${PN}.key ]; then Are you

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-08-23 Thread Natanael Copa
://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200708/0025.html Does anyone have any suggestion to do dynamic variables cleanly without using arrays? Natanael Copa Thanks Roy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] SSL certificates in binary packages

2007-08-22 Thread Natanael Copa
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 13:29 +0200, Raphael Marichez wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Natanael Copa wrote: Hi, I use the gentoo framework to build binary packages. I noticed that most packages creates the ssl certificate during src_install(). This makes all binary packages contain the ssl

[gentoo-dev] SSL certificates in binary packages

2007-08-21 Thread Natanael Copa
net-mail/dovecot net-misc/stunnel net-nntp/inn www-servers/nginx Should I create a bug for every vulnerable package? From a binary packagers perspective I would really prefer to create the certs from init.d script. Thanks! Natanael Copa -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-12 Thread Natanael Copa
to make things harder for random developers here. I tried to write some scripts some time ago and it was completely horrible. I wish more people would have been thinking like Ciaran earlier. btw.. I keep hearing about this paladius. Is it more script-friendly than emerge? -- Natanael Copa -- gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paladius (was: GLEP 42?)

2006-10-12 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 16:18 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:24:36 +0200 Natanael Copa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | btw.. I keep hearing about this paladius. Is it more script-friendly | than emerge? Once we get the Ruby interface fleshed out it will be... What about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-05 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 00:00 +0100, Duncan Coutts wrote: On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 17:13 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: With the increase in developer and project overlays, I see the possibility for reducing work needed to maintain many packages. As Natanael Copa, it would be nice for him

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)

2006-10-05 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 09:52 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: Natanael Copa wrote: Nobody has ever showed interest and I'm not pushing my services on anyone. Why exactly you don't want to become a Gentoo dev? Because of the byrocracy? Is it worth it to only maintain one single package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)

2006-10-05 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 10:18 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 05 October 2006 10:06, Natanael Copa wrote: When I submit a fix/version bumb (I submit as maintainer update) to freebsd ports, its normally committed within hours, even if its not a popular port. ... And I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 00:00 +, Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer wrote: Tach Natanael, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) Natanael Copa schrieb: Can I become a Gentoo dev, even if I'm only maintainer of 1-3 packages? I'm trying to be realistic. You can. And you can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers

2006-10-05 Thread Natanael Copa
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 15:47 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:39:50 +0200 Natanael Copa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm initially only interested in maintaining packages where I'm the | upstream maintainer as well. Ick. Rarely a good idea. That removes a layer of QA. ok

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide

2006-10-04 Thread Natanael Copa
there are a few packages I could maintain, but I don't think its worth becomming a developer to just maintain 1 single package. I think this how the do with the freebsd ports tree. I am maintainer for 1 single freebsd port without being a committer. -- Natanael Copa -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing