Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
de Vrieze Researcher Mail: paul.devri...@gmail.com Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] metdata.dtd should require herd/

2009-12-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
for order to be significant. The only priority is that maintainer goes before herd, that's all. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
in the tree. Well, EAPI is the way to go. Remember EAPI is not established by Ciaran, but by the council. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Email: pau...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking of libxcb 1.4 and related libs in !2008.0 profiles

2009-08-19 Thread Paul de Vrieze
folks! =/ -Jeremy As a service to users, you might want to create an empty library: touch foo.c gcc -shared foo.c -o libxcb-x11.so.0.0.0 That's all -- Paul de Vrieze Researcher Mail: paul.devri...@gmail.com Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-08-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
[1]: http://github.com/sjnewbury/multilib-overlay/tree/portage-multilib Good work, Unfortunately my 64 bit system is currently non-functional, but when it is working again (when I replace parts) I'll try the portage stuff out. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Email: pau...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs (for Python modules etc.)

2009-08-01 Thread Paul de Vrieze
) solution to the multi-ABI problem as in (x86_64 vs. ix86). The biggest issue is to handle multiple instances of the same package and how to handle overlapping (ABI independent) files. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] global useflags

2008-02-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
description is certainly nicer if the 80 char limit no longer applies. What about: djvu: support DjVu, a PDF-like document format esp. suited for scanned documents -- Paul de Vrieze Researcher Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-12 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Feb 13, 2008 10:44 AM, Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think about adding support to base.eclass for running eautoreconf? so instead of src_unpack() { unpack ${A} cd ${A} eautoreconf } would just add EAUTORECONF=yes inherit base Sounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2007-09-07 Thread Paul de Vrieze
not require binary kernel modules either. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-08-09 Thread Paul de Vrieze
in time there used to be some policy about this, but it seems to have disappeared. Perhaps something that might be discussed. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:06:07 Chris Gianelloni wrote: - HOMEPAGE changes - LICENSE changes - arch-specific patches/dependencies - If someone is requesting KEYWORD changes on a package and it requires a patch or additional dependencies for your architecture, you are not only permitted, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:19 Duncan wrote: Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:53 -0600: Why don't we create the gentoo-project mailing list, and, you know, actually wait a bit to see how that actually goes. Then we can talk

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:11:55 Seemant Kulleen wrote: This leaves two courses of action. 1. Officially install him as such; or 2. Stop letting him wield his power over you. (yes, you, not us -- concentrate on how much you let him affect you). I guess you know my vote. Option 1 is

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:34:17 Thomas Tuttle wrote: Personally, I prefer quicker mechanisms to slower ones, but some people dislike real-time communications because they can interrupt their work constantly. I think what's important is not the signal-to-noise ratio, per se, but the

Re: [gentoo-dev] package with funny licence

2007-07-04 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 03:01:52 Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:21:12 +0200 Ulrich Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I stumbled over a package that has the following funny licence in its file headers: ;; Bozoup(P) 1995 The Bozo(tic) Softwar(e) Founda(t)ion, Inc. ;; See

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] new dep list (useful just for cross stuff)

2007-07-04 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:12:02 Olivier Crête wrote: On Fri, 2007-29-06 at 09:30 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: There are various problems that need to be addressed for cross development and (especially) multilib/abi. One of the other ones that you didn't mention is some

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] new dep list (useful just for cross stuff)

2007-06-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Hiatus (sort of)

2007-06-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
in action again. Now from Hobart, Tasmania (Australia) Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpT5CxtoeLta.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-10 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 13:29 +0200, Denis Dupeyron wrote: Why not simply allow trustees to veto a council decision ? This does not give trustees enough power to be a second council, but would permit them to stop something that they believe will damage Gentoo. This is very

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hiatus (sort of)

2007-04-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Petteri Räty wrote: Paul de Vrieze kirjoitti: Hi all, Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting for the visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set ourselves up. Our computers however are being shipped as we speak and will only arive in australia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Danny van Dyk wrote: If anybody is interested, i can provide you (this is all gentoo ebuild devs*) either with lists of QA problems in the tree to fix, or with tools that enable you to search for one particular (kind of) QA violation in the whole tree, whatever your prefer. It might be an

[gentoo-dev] Hiatus (sort of)

2007-03-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Hi all, Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting for the visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set ourselves up. Our computers however are being shipped as we speak and will only arive in australia after roughly 6 weeks. I'm looking to buy a laptop,

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project, Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
of any page that uses all features, but if you look around you can find some. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpGInWKoiyb5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
be offered but are not. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpHbA1mbup1V.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project, Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Denis Dupeyron wrote: On 3/28/07, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do (sort of), and it is documented at: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/projectxml.xml Unfortunately I don't know of any page that uses all features, but if you look

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
a better explanation of the closure in the comment that goes along. So yes, I do think that closing as INVALID can be received as you actually wasted our time (and what that means to a user). Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project,Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
stuff). Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgptWlolmiQmR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project,Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
have to give order or write out all possible orderings. The stylesheet hapilly accepts any ordering, but expects certain things to be there. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpGhYLZrAX4l.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Re: two more tentative SOC ideas

2007-03-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
version used and using big fat warnings if that changes. The static version is probably better as it protects against the berkeley db version used just disappearing from below. And breaking an authentication system really sucks (as in not being able to log in). Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] dont use `which` in ebuilds

2007-03-18 Thread Paul de Vrieze
. The reasons why not to use which still apply. Even though which is used in a script instead of the ebuild itself. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpY9jyEZ0nad.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
or impossible. Refusing to accept new contributions is, while a very harsh measure, a possibility. Paul ps. Let me remind everyone that this is about new conduct, not about past behaviour. If anyone is afraid of the measures, all they have to do is behave properly. -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
the contributions of someone, the situation has already gotten out of hand. I don't believe that people are that irreplaceable. Even if they are, that is something that is damaging to the projects continuity. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
it. -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgprrQKZpDyVy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Paul de Vrieze
warned not to do so. -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpraoQ9QYRxV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-07 Thread Paul de Vrieze
a competing spec. I actually know so, but as it seems that much work to write, it is quite a hurdle for someone else to step up with an alternative. It might be tempting to ignore a bias. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
can get away with rather than having a proper technical discussion. Ciaran, could you please do this in private. We don't need pissing contests and flamefests on this list. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpdayJ6857k1.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
. As such we must be warry of what we allow. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpCYS0DOWj7a.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
at all. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgphaDr9SBWEN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
any proper structure just makes things even harder to manage. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpbEJeycMGz3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] custom-cflags global USE

2007-02-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
, this is fine. It is a part of the standard however, and this makes the compiler not except all standard-compliant code. These options are there to enable better code generation when it is known that the named features are not needed. They should never be globally enabled. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reliance upon || ( use? ( ) ) behaviour

2007-02-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
this is not valid syntax, but it is just to convey the idea. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp6oF8eRTQsv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-22 Thread Paul de Vrieze
, but this was already a known issue over 3 years ago. And yes, the way portage handles ebuilds does not necessarilly win any beauty contest. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpYNgPY0OcPR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))

2007-02-22 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 22 February 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: By that same argument, anybody who ever had to deal with abuse from bug wranglers wouldn't be using Gentoo. Which would mean a whole lot fewer users. Grow up. -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-19 Thread Paul de Vrieze
on exactly the same project, or at least it was last year. Perhaps the google people might have some suggestions on this. It seems that they should also be interested in getting value for their money. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
to speed up boot, the dependency generation is probably what's eating most time. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpS9X5o4MDYx.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
LD_PRELOAD. Now understand the trust placed into the hands of the developers. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpCFSOXjVR4C.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Abusing RESTRICT={no,}userpriv (was [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT)

2007-01-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
? The shared data shouldn't be. The binaries don't live there either, and could be restricted themselves. This seems to be an arbitrary restriction of the shoot yourself in the foot kind. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Abusing RESTRICT={no,}userpriv (was [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT)

2007-01-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
time to accomplish. No, just have some hack that fixes the permission on the /usr/games/lib directory to include read for others (if needed). Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp2f46FSkZKQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-10 Thread Paul de Vrieze
because of two borked packages in the tree and we should not introduce any more packages borked in a similar way into the tree. I agree. The restrict should only be even considered when it is clear that the sandbox is indeed flawed by concept and cannot be fixed. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2007-01-04 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 22:54, Steve Long wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: I know that I'm a bit late on this, but to me the version 2 or later is a license by itself. Let's call it GPL-RENEW and let the file have contents like: This package is licensed with the version x or later clause

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2007-01-03 Thread Paul de Vrieze
as LICENSE=|| (GPL-2 GPL-3) GPL-RENEW Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpnjrniXQsr2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2006-12-17 23:59 UTC

2006-12-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
fullname in the util.xsl file. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpYIxnH2ngC4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing metadata.xml

2006-11-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
brought mayhem over themselves. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp3YMOUSQ20U.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 1.x and GNOME 1.x dependent package masking

2006-11-11 Thread Paul de Vrieze
a non-installed libgdk. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpVuNDHFCX0V.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-08 Thread Paul de Vrieze
is that for the applications, it is not only glibc+gcc that determines the ABI. It is all libraries used (sometimes useflags even make a difference) that are also ABI for applications. That would lead to a gazillion configurations that would be nearly impossible to track. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Paul de Vrieze
forwarding. Cox (rhyme it as you will), my cable provider, doesn't allow 25 to leave their network. To send mail, I *have* to relay through their mail servers. For that reason there is a special port (587) for mail submission that should be supported by the gentoo servers. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-05 Thread Paul de Vrieze
flows through it too. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpCLX7xLtF5c.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2006-11-03 Thread Paul de Vrieze
that because of legalities you never got to serve on the board of trustees. For the rest, all the best of luck and see you around. Greetings, Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpoVl6oTu06M.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: put new additions along with removals in GWN

2006-10-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
: #cat $OLDPKGS $NEWPKGS $NEWPKGS|sort |uniq -u mv $NEWPKGS $OLDPKGS = end = Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp2RvKjuIfSk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Dreaded herd tag

2006-10-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
as a temporary solution. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpAVlEqEbNKP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Simon Stelling wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: I would go for the EAPI bump. Even then I think it would be smart to wait a short while for packages to use this as we ensure that the supporting portage version is stable. Err, EAPI was designed to assure that a supporting version is actually

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:12:40 +0100 Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | As the default USE flags are metadata about the package (not the | profile), it makes sense to store that data in the ebuild, along with | the rest of the package's metadata. No no on. Default

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | It's a stupid statement, not providing any further backing for your | position; please dear god spare us all the waste of time reading | your emails if that's how you're going to push for what you want... Not at all. Your argument could be rephrased like this: There

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking the missing dates that past and present developers joined Gentoo.

2006-10-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Maurice van der Pot wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 05:42:59AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I added ~100 joined dates thus far, however the archives (esp. for -core) that I have access to are not complete, and don't go back nearly as far as the depths of Gentoo history, Have you considered

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-13 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Zac Medico wrote: Hi everyone, I've written a patch for portage [1] that implements per-package default USE flags at both the ebuild and profile levels (discussed a couple of months ago [2] on this list). At the ebuild level, default flags are specified in IUSE with a + prefix as described

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-10 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Duncan wrote: Anybody doing Gentoo on even a Pentium original is going to be compiling for awhile unless they do GRP only, and that's inadvised as GRP isn't security updated until the next release, six months later! A couple years ago when I first started with Gentoo and was on the main user

Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: No... but didn't one download and burn that CD that is being used for the _networkless_ install? One could also download the stage needed, slap it on a usb key, and viola! Of course, the other option, is to use that crazy installer option Networkless - I could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-04 Thread Paul de Vrieze
Maybe it depends on what you mean by 'in control'. What I mean is that you have a good stable base from which to work on, but nothing prevents you to tweak things like you want: Gentoo doesn't get in your way. http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml mentions Extreme Configurabiliy and the main

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
exact goals is a very useful first step. As much as ISO-9002 certification doesn't guarantee quality products/services, a GLEP does not ensure correct decisions. It just ensures that some things will not get done because they are red-taped to death. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] colon separated variables in /etc/env.d/

2006-09-11 Thread Paul de Vrieze
have one value and are overridden instead of appended. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpNjh6gLevKm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-03 Thread Paul de Vrieze
to the metadata.xml file. Don't do it in this less than obvious way. The maintainer must still be someone with a gentoo email. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgppqk7iNIoRS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] cdrtools license issues

2006-09-01 Thread Paul de Vrieze
. The GPL sucks in linking respect. Given the GPL however linking GPL-ed software to non-system libraries that are not GPL licensed (Not even LGPL) is a violation of the GPL. The GPL is very vague on the subject though. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http

Re: [gentoo-dev] cdrtools license issues

2006-09-01 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 01 September 2006 16:31, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Friday 01 September 2006 15:36, Paul de Vrieze wrote: The build scripts are part of the source code. And as such must be licensed under the GPL. It's opinable, as you don't mix them with the actual code. I think it's one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for September

2006-09-01 Thread Paul de Vrieze
this. I particularly find the notification 7 days before setting the agenda troublesome. It basically means that decisions can only be made half a month after the discussion has finished on -dev. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
. As long as things don't break beyond repair I see no reason whatsoever to remove xmms (or any other largely unmaintained package in the tree). Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpBsdir4vVPi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
not agree with the council, vote someone else the next year. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpmG5syi0nDV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
. A big issue, that I hope to correct is exactly this indeciciveness in the council. It is my position that the council needs to be proactive in decisions and in setting a goal for the distribution. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
community distribution is not an organisation in the traditional sense. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpc3EzIIn3kS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
) this is not easy to achieve. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgplWnkKfBDKa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

2006-08-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
is mplayer? Use the aplay binary provided by alsa-utils. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpAwtHYbRzzH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] If I may interject...

2006-08-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
to be dismissed as a extremist (though, hopefully not by your mother). Intentionally offending the very people we need to convince does not help us at all. While it is accurate, I agree with you that it is indeed offensive. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
language is not software, it is couple of abstract concept for actually writing software. You forget the main part of a language is the library. Basically there is not yet a good complete open java standard library available. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-10 Thread Paul de Vrieze
that. The whole point of gentoo having (a reputation of having) good documentation is because people need it. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpseQ8PrKYKO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-07 Thread Paul de Vrieze
sit down and fix the ebuilds. First fix your attitude problem, then come with good suggestions stated in a more friendly way. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp3sJxZmsRPa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-07 Thread Paul de Vrieze
been active and built up a reputation. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpsZB8sBqVs8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-07 Thread Paul de Vrieze
the dependent libs of a dependency. That way you don't need to recompile if (say gtk was compiled with a new libpng version) Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgp5RxbtO9jVz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
have FEATURES=test set yourself you should know how many fail. It's not insignificant. Part of the problem is that many test suites themselves are broken. Or broken on some architectures. Other times the tests fail because of broken dependencies. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
the bindings. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpdZdw3ru1yg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

2006-08-03 Thread Paul de Vrieze
exactly. The point is that it is not on a dev's turf. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgplHPp1Cr8hj.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation

2006-08-03 Thread Paul de Vrieze
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: webdav global use flag and default

2006-08-03 Thread Paul de Vrieze
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: webdav global use flag and default

2006-08-03 Thread Paul de Vrieze
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-08-02 Thread Paul de Vrieze
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

2006-08-02 Thread Paul de Vrieze
didn't claim to know exactly what the real problem is, merely that it's not what's being solved here. Herds do not have turfs. They specialise in particular areas but that doesn't mean that all packages in that area have to fall under the herd. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
. I'm one of those. Portage namely is also a package manager allowing what using the tarbal method does not: file tracking and deinstallation. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpr68D6w9f3V.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] webdav global use flag and default

2006-07-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
). To disable webdav support would cripple the subversion client. It is something one should only do when aware of the consequences. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgplBDFU7dRLt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
but the dummies. ;) I don't mind that much not doing anything with -ffast-math, but filtering it out should not be done. It is a broken flag. Filtering it out gives the message that it isn't unsafe to use. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
documentation itself says it is dangerous. That should be enough. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net pgpZInD51vioS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-07-16 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 13 July 2006 18:53, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:55:57 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The dev manual is *wrong*. No, the devmanual reflects what's actually being done, rather than an impractical definition that was written years ago

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