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order to be significant. The only priority is that maintainer goes
before herd, that's all.
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in the tree. Well, EAPI is the way to go. Remember EAPI is
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folks! =/
-Jeremy
As a service to users, you might want to create an empty library:
touch foo.c
gcc -shared foo.c -o libxcb-x11.so.0.0.0
That's all
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[1]: http://github.com/sjnewbury/multilib-overlay/tree/portage-multilib
Good work,
Unfortunately my 64 bit system is currently non-functional, but when it is
working again (when I replace parts) I'll try the portage stuff out.
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) solution to
the multi-ABI problem as in (x86_64 vs. ix86). The biggest issue is to
handle multiple instances of the same package and how to handle
overlapping (ABI independent) files.
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description is certainly nicer if the 80 char limit no longer applies.
What about:
djvu: support DjVu, a PDF-like document format esp. suited for scanned
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On Feb 13, 2008 10:44 AM, Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do you think about adding support to base.eclass for running
eautoreconf?
so instead of
src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}
cd ${A}
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would just add
EAUTORECONF=yes
inherit base
Sounds
not require
binary kernel modules either.
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in time there used to be some policy about this, but it seems to have
disappeared. Perhaps something that might be discussed.
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:06:07 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
- HOMEPAGE changes
- LICENSE changes
- arch-specific patches/dependencies - If someone is requesting KEYWORD
changes on a package and it requires a patch or additional dependencies
for your architecture, you are not only permitted, but
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:19 Duncan wrote:
Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Why don't we create the gentoo-project mailing
list, and, you know, actually wait a bit to see how that actually goes.
Then we can talk
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:11:55 Seemant Kulleen wrote:
This leaves two courses of action.
1. Officially install him as such; or
2. Stop letting him wield his power over you. (yes, you, not us --
concentrate on how much you let him affect you).
I guess you know my vote. Option 1 is
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:34:17 Thomas Tuttle wrote:
Personally, I prefer quicker mechanisms to slower ones, but some people
dislike real-time communications because they can interrupt their work
constantly. I think what's important is not the signal-to-noise ratio,
per se, but the
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 03:01:52 Jeroen Roovers wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:21:12 +0200
Ulrich Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today I stumbled over a package that has the following funny licence
in its file headers:
;; Bozoup(P) 1995 The Bozo(tic) Softwar(e) Founda(t)ion, Inc.
;; See
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:12:02 Olivier Crête wrote:
On Fri, 2007-29-06 at 09:30 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
Paul de Vrieze wrote:
There are various problems that need to be addressed for cross
development and (especially) multilib/abi. One of the other ones that
you didn't mention is some
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Seemant Kulleen wrote:
On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 13:29 +0200, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
Why not simply allow trustees to veto a council decision ? This does
not give trustees enough power to be a second council, but would
permit them to stop something that they believe will damage Gentoo.
This is very
Petteri Räty wrote:
Paul de Vrieze kirjoitti:
Hi all,
Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting for the
visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set ourselves up. Our
computers however are being shipped as we speak and will only arive in
australia
Danny van Dyk wrote:
If anybody is interested, i can provide you (this is all gentoo ebuild
devs*) either with lists of QA problems in the tree to fix, or with
tools that enable you to search for one particular (kind of) QA
violation in the whole tree, whatever your prefer.
It might be an
Hi all,
Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting for the
visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set ourselves up. Our
computers however are being shipped as we speak and will only arive in
australia after roughly 6 weeks. I'm looking to buy a laptop,
of any page that uses all features, but if you look
around you can find some.
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be offered but are
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On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
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I do (sort of), and it is documented at:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/projectxml.xml
Unfortunately I don't know of any page that uses all features, but if you
look
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a better explanation of the closure in the comment that goes along. So
yes, I do think that closing as INVALID can be received as you actually
wasted our time (and what that means to a user).
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stuff).
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have to give order or write out all possible orderings. The
stylesheet hapilly accepts any ordering, but expects certain things to be
there.
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version used and using big fat warnings if that changes.
The static version is probably better as it protects against the berkeley db
version used just disappearing from below. And breaking an authentication
system really sucks (as in not being able to log in).
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The reasons why not to use which still apply. Even though which is used in a
script instead of the ebuild itself.
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or impossible. Refusing to accept new contributions is,
while a very harsh measure, a possibility.
Paul
ps. Let me remind everyone that this is about new conduct, not about past
behaviour. If anyone is afraid of the measures, all they have to do is behave
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the contributions of someone, the situation has
already gotten out of hand. I don't believe that people are that
irreplaceable. Even if they are, that is something that is damaging to the
projects continuity.
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a competing spec.
I actually know so, but as it seems that much work to write, it is quite a
hurdle for someone else to step up with an alternative. It might be tempting
to ignore a bias.
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can get away with
rather than having a proper technical discussion.
Ciaran,
could you please do this in private. We don't need pissing contests and
flamefests on this list.
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. As such we must be warry of what we
allow.
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any proper structure just makes
things even harder to manage.
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, this
is fine. It is a part of the standard however, and this makes the compiler
not except all standard-compliant code. These options are there to enable
better code generation when it is known that the named features are not
needed. They should never be globally enabled.
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this is not valid syntax, but it is just to convey the idea.
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, but this was already a known issue over 3 years ago. And yes, the
way portage handles ebuilds does not necessarilly win any beauty contest.
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On Thursday 22 February 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
By that same argument, anybody who ever had to deal with abuse from bug
wranglers wouldn't be using Gentoo. Which would mean a whole lot
fewer users.
Grow up.
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on exactly the same
project, or at least it was last year.
Perhaps the google people might have some suggestions on this. It seems that
they should also be interested in getting value for their money.
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to speed up boot, the dependency generation is probably what's
eating most time.
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? The shared data shouldn't be.
The binaries don't live there either, and could be restricted themselves.
This seems to be an arbitrary restriction of the shoot yourself in the foot
kind.
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time to accomplish.
No, just have some hack that fixes the permission on the /usr/games/lib
directory to include read for others (if needed).
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because of two borked packages in the tree and we should not
introduce any more packages borked in a similar way into the tree.
I agree. The restrict should only be even considered when it is clear that the
sandbox is indeed flawed by concept and cannot be fixed.
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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 22:54, Steve Long wrote:
Paul de Vrieze wrote:
I know that I'm a bit late on this, but to me the version 2 or later is
a license by itself. Let's call it GPL-RENEW and let the file have
contents like:
This package is licensed with the version x or later clause
as LICENSE=|| (GPL-2 GPL-3) GPL-RENEW
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brought mayhem over themselves.
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is that for the applications, it is not only glibc+gcc that
determines the ABI. It is all libraries used (sometimes useflags even make a
difference) that are also ABI for applications. That would lead to a
gazillion configurations that would be nearly impossible to track.
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forwarding. Cox (rhyme it as you will), my cable provider,
doesn't allow 25 to leave their network. To send mail, I *have* to relay
through their mail servers.
For that reason there is a special port (587) for mail submission that should
be supported by the gentoo servers.
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flows through it too.
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that because of legalities you
never got to serve on the board of trustees. For the rest, all the best of
luck and see you around.
Greetings,
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#cat $OLDPKGS $NEWPKGS $NEWPKGS|sort |uniq -u
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Simon Stelling wrote:
Paul de Vrieze wrote:
I would go for the EAPI bump. Even then I think it would be smart to
wait a short while for packages to use this as we ensure that the
supporting portage version is stable.
Err, EAPI was designed to assure that a supporting version is actually
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:12:40 +0100 Stuart Herbert
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| As the default USE flags are metadata about the package (not the
| profile), it makes sense to store that data in the ebuild, along with
| the rest of the package's metadata.
No no on. Default
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| It's a stupid statement, not providing any further backing for your
| position; please dear god spare us all the waste of time reading
| your emails if that's how you're going to push for what you want...
Not at all. Your argument could be rephrased like this: There
Maurice van der Pot wrote:
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 05:42:59AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I added ~100 joined dates thus far, however the
archives (esp. for -core) that I have access to are not complete, and
don't go back nearly as far as the depths of Gentoo history,
Have you considered
Zac Medico wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've written a patch for portage [1] that implements per-package default USE
flags at
both the ebuild and profile levels (discussed a couple of months ago [2] on this
list). At the ebuild level, default flags are specified in IUSE with a +
prefix as
described
Duncan wrote:
Anybody doing Gentoo on even a Pentium original is going to be compiling
for awhile unless they do GRP only, and that's inadvised as GRP isn't
security updated until the next release, six months later! A couple years
ago when I first started with Gentoo and was on the main user
Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
No... but didn't one download and burn that CD that is being used for
the _networkless_ install? One could also download the stage needed,
slap it on a usb key, and viola! Of course, the other option, is to use
that crazy installer option Networkless - I could be
Maybe it depends on what you mean by 'in control'. What I mean is that
you have a good stable base from which to work on, but nothing prevents
you to tweak things like you want: Gentoo doesn't get in your way.
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml mentions Extreme
Configurabiliy and the main
exact goals is a very useful first step.
As much as ISO-9002 certification doesn't guarantee quality products/services,
a GLEP does not ensure correct decisions. It just ensures that some things
will not get done because they are red-taped to death.
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have one value and are overridden
instead of appended.
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to the metadata.xml file. Don't do it in this
less than obvious way. The maintainer must still be someone with a gentoo
email.
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The GPL sucks in linking respect. Given the GPL however linking GPL-ed
software to non-system libraries that are not GPL licensed (Not even LGPL) is
a violation of the GPL. The GPL is very vague on the subject though.
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On Friday 01 September 2006 16:31, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Friday 01 September 2006 15:36, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
The build scripts are part of the source code. And as such must be
licensed under the GPL.
It's opinable, as you don't mix them with the actual code. I think it's one
this. I particularly find the notification 7 days
before setting the agenda troublesome. It basically means that decisions can
only be made half a month after the discussion has finished on -dev.
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. As long as things don't break beyond repair
I see no reason whatsoever to remove xmms (or any other largely unmaintained
package in the tree).
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not agree with the
council, vote someone else the next year.
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A big issue, that I hope to correct is exactly this indeciciveness in the
council. It is my position that the council needs to be proactive in
decisions and in setting a goal for the distribution.
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community distribution is not an
organisation in the traditional sense.
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) this is not easy to
achieve.
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is mplayer?
Use the aplay binary provided by alsa-utils.
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to be
dismissed as a extremist (though, hopefully not by your mother).
Intentionally offending the very people we need to convince does not help
us at all.
While it is accurate, I agree with you that it is indeed offensive.
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language is not software, it is couple of
abstract concept for actually writing software.
You forget the main part of a language is the library. Basically there is not
yet a good complete open java standard library available.
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that. The whole point of gentoo having (a reputation of having)
good documentation is because people need it.
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sit down and fix the ebuilds.
First fix your attitude problem, then come with good suggestions stated in a
more friendly way.
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been
active and built up a reputation.
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the dependent libs of a dependency.
That way you don't need to recompile if (say gtk was compiled with a new
libpng version)
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have FEATURES=test set yourself you
should know how many fail. It's not insignificant.
Part of the problem is that many test suites themselves are broken. Or broken
on some architectures. Other times the tests fail because of broken
dependencies.
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the bindings.
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exactly. The point is that it is not on a dev's turf.
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didn't claim to know exactly what the
real problem is, merely that it's not what's being solved here.
Herds do not have turfs. They specialise in particular areas but that doesn't
mean that all packages in that area have to fall under the herd.
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I'm one of those. Portage namely is also a package manager allowing what using
the tarbal method does not: file tracking and deinstallation.
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). To disable webdav support would cripple the
subversion client. It is something one should only do when aware of the
consequences.
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but the dummies. ;)
I don't mind that much not doing anything with -ffast-math, but filtering it
out should not be done. It is a broken flag. Filtering it out gives the
message that it isn't unsafe to use.
Paul
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documentation itself says it is dangerous. That
should be enough.
Paul
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On Thursday 13 July 2006 18:53, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:55:57 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| The dev manual is *wrong*.
No, the devmanual reflects what's actually being done, rather than an
impractical definition that was written years ago
much...
I agree that in most cases team=herd and there is not formal project and it
really doesn't matter if you say that a herd maintains something when it's
the herd's maintainers that do so.
Paul
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