Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] VCS used for development of portage

2010-03-07 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 06 March 2010, Robin H. Johnson wrote: In either case, I'm starting to wonder if the change is just trivial enough to get done in svn2git or git-svn directly. I think other properties are already there. The git-svn man page states that a transformation is not trivial. I don't know

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Marking bugs for bugday?

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 02 March 2010, Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 03/02/10 20:28, Nathan Zachary wrote: This looks like overkill to me. One keyword should be enough, and for supplementary information Status Whiteboard could be used. I agree. Simply having the BUGDAY keyword should be sufficient,

[gentoo-dev] g15 and freevo up for grabs

2010-01-18 Thread Robert Buchholz
Hello, I want to drop maintenance for some of the packages that I have acquired over the years. Some of them are still co-maintained, some are now unmaintained. === Freevo === Freevo is split up in different Python components. They are all maintained by a herd, but a dedicated maintainer is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-26 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 24 October 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22 Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-10-01 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday 01 October 2009, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 18:17 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Pipping: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Sure. Just periodically fetch the repository centrally. Have a master list of sync URLs with expected repository names, and use that to generate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-20 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 20 September 2009, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: Some packages (whose older versions might be stable) might soon start requiring Python 3. Stabilization of these packages cannot be delayed due to the fact that some other packages don't work with Python 3. Of course they

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-21 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 22 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: It's true, but being able to modularize profile may outweights the need to be strict-with-the-book here - it's a matter of usefulness. I think it should be decided by those who actually do the work in profile, whether it's worthy to push this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-08-19

2009-08-19 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Wednesday 19 August 2009, Duncan wrote: FWIW, It'd be useful to know about @system packages as well, particularly portage, I'd guess, and there's likely others. AFAIK smolt depends on portage ATM, but the particular versions installed and percentage for each could be /very/ helpful as more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-12 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Wednesday 12 August 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: cvs Missing documentation, but valid, see make.conf.example split-debug This is probably invalid. preserve-libs splitdebug unmerge-logs These are documented in Portage 2.2 make.conf(5). Robert signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 11:08:34 Robert Buchholz wrote: In my opinion, the entrance barrier for devs is lower on git.overlays, there is no signup, password, mail verification required. There's scripts to keep the ssh keys in LDAP

Re: [gentoo-dev] autobuilds and the current* symlinks

2009-08-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 09 August 2009, Robin H. Johnson wrote: In the wake of bug #279260 that continues to break the ISO builds, I've restructured the symlinks under releases/$ARCH. Previously with autobuilds, we only have one symlink, current/, at the same level as autobuilds. Now there are two [1]

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-soc] Re: Progress on Universal Select Tool

2009-07-23 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday 23 July 2009, Sérgio Almeida wrote: You changedir, you call uprofile, and voila, new profile. You login again, default profile. Most shells have the ability to execute a command when a new prompt is generated. Users do not need to call uprofile themselves, they could set up their

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: 14 X input drivers

2009-07-13 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 13 July 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 13/07/2009 16:56, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) a écrit : All have in common that they've been broken (in portage) for many months and no-one noticed until Sabayon folks started doing tinderbox builds :) We're using the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] repo_name/layman-global.txt overlay name mismatches

2009-07-12 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 12 July 2009, Fabian Groffen wrote: since I assume you can't reliably use the checked out version of the overlay (by e.g. layman), can you try to retrieve the repo_name file from the overlay? Probably a lot of efforts. So alternative, what if we extend the layman-global.txt (which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wanted: Stats collection (not submission!) testimonials

2009-07-12 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 12 July 2009, Tobias Klausmann wrote: Interestingly, my cross-compile alpha setup (created using crossdev) is noticed as a secret package - I presume that is on purpose? That's an interesting phenomenon that pops up with both g-cpan and crossdev, because they generate new ebuilds. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] repo_name/layman-global.txt overlay name mismatches

2009-07-12 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 12 July 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: Robert Buchholz wrote: 1. has no DTD/xml validation schema I'd like to be part of the schema creation process but feel that having pre-mature schema's on the list and it's archives is not a good idea. It's probably wise

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: One of the stronger points for collaborating at the source is that poeple who are not Gentoo devs (yet) and therefore have no write access to the Gentoo tree can still extend and fix the Gentoo packagemap entries. Doing it downstream would

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 15 June 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: However there are a few more things to take into account, please have a look at my reply to Paul: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/popcon-developers/2009-June/ 001759.html Sorry for not CC'ing you, I should have though of that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Apache herds needs your help

2009-06-08 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 08 June 2009, Benedikt Böhm wrote: Hi all, currently I am the only active developer in the apache herd, but quite busy with work and life, so I'd like to ask all of you to fix bugs assigned to apache-bugs@ if you come across them/if they annoy you etc, since i cannot keep up with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy regarding enabling IUSE defaults application in ebuild

2009-06-08 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 08 June 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: ... While it usually doesn't do any particular harm (but I guess security and prefix/alt team won't agree on this) - insanely enabling everything by default is not the best idea in my opinion. The Security Team supports all use flag combinations,

[gentoo-dev] RFC: GLSA-2, a new DTD for GLSAs

2009-05-26 Thread Robert Buchholz
Hello, the Security Team would like to create a new DTD for our GLSAs. GLSAs are distributed via our web site and the tree. Their format is defined by a DTD. When the format was initially defined in 2004, some use cases were considered that never got implemented or used. Other use cases only

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLSA-2, a new DTD for GLSAs

2009-05-26 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 16:19 +0200 schrieb Robert Buchholz: I would like to announce the changes we want to introduce. If you have any feedback, please speak up. This can include feature requests. Maybe add a 'tag' attribute

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 23 May 2009, Roy Marples wrote: Basically as Doug said, each OpenRC version comes with a few big chances. Well not massive as in your box will break now, but just a different spin on how things should work. OpenRC-0.5 will have the biggest re-spin to date - net.lo (net.eth0 etc) is

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 25 May 2009, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: On So, 2009-05-24 at 20:04 +0200, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: [...] app-admin/equo (sabayon overlay -- Entropy Framework client) supports the postfix @repository

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 25 May 2009, Ben de Groot wrote: Robert Buchholz wrote: If we use repo_name as the overlay identifier, we must rethink how layman-global.txt is currently handled. Many overlays in there have that file missing, and some have different identifiers than what layman displays

Gentoo Security Project Summary -- was Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
. It was determined unanimously that Pierre-Yves Rofes (py) and Robert Buchholz (rbu) will be the new French-German duo that is our Team Leads. We would like to publicly thank Raphael Marichez (falco) and Matthias Geerdsen (vorlon) for doing the job the years past. They were both not available

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 21:52, Dale wrote: Also, the link to your thread does not exist. I get The topic or post you requested does not exist. The project should be viewable. The forum post will only be visible for mods, admins and devs I guess,

Re: versionator.eclass terminator, was [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 18 May 2009, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2009 16:16:46 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Why do you think I wrote the awful hack that is versionator? Why don't you explain why, historically, you put that in the tree? It would help us now if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-17 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 17 May 2009, Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: Hello, I have just updated GLEP 55 [1], hopefully making it a bit clearer. Just FYI, my order of preference of solutions is: 1. EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (obviously) 2. EAPI in the filename with one-time extension change 3. Easily fetchable EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Have a look at every package using a MY_PV style thing. Group those into upstream's doing something dumb and upstream's being sensible but our arbitrary restrictions on rules means we can't follow what they do. I like the fact that our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries - Alpha Arch Team

2009-05-06 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Tobias Klausmann wrote: I've been toying with the idea of offering something akin to Debians popularity contest tool. Some people are rather uncomfortable with data gathering tools that send stuff to some strangers, so I don't know how well it would work. I list this

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 30 March 2009, Thomas Sachau wrote: Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. I'd like to suggest the following too: * If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-23 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 23 March 2009, Tiziano Müller wrote: Spec needed. DOCS or no DOCS? DOCS, and non-empty default value, please [1]. Some eclasses already do this (not base, but others), and if that default doesn't cover it for you, the function can be overridden. Concerning the argument of declarative

Re: [gentoo-dev] perforce client proper license

2009-03-22 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 22 March 2009, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: I think you will encounter namespace collisions, thats why I CC'd zac as he maintains mirror-dist ;p Why the hell didn't we think of this before!? :o The mirror-dist

Re: [gentoo-dev] perforce client proper license

2009-03-21 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 21 March 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: Doing some research I found out that perforce-cli was in the portage back in 2006 but not anymore. Can somebody recall the reason why it is not there anymore? If it wasn't a license issue , I want to bring it back ( at least the client

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-03-08 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 08 March 2009, Tiziano Müller wrote: Hi everyone With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of new problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package you depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an example). So I think it's time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, Petteri Räty wrote: Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Thanks for opening a spot to voice our opinions

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling Launchpad SRC_URI

2009-01-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 25 January 2009, Josh Saddler wrote: Right now, there's no canonical (heh) way of handling SRC_URI for projects that have their files at launchpad.net. We need a standard way of handling Launchpad SRC_URIs, similar to what we do with mirror://sourceforge/ SRC_URIs. 1. Some packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-04 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 19 October 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Now into it's Nth great year, I bring you the fourth edition of the automatic assignment proposal. /truman-show Previously: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48485 [v1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/49601

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-04 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 04 January 2009, Mike Auty wrote: Jeroen Roovers wrote: The order (first maintainer as assignee or first maintainer/herd as assignee) is open to discussion and I think this is the proper forum to have that discussion. It seems sensible to me. I would've thought that being more

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 03 January 2009, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:50:07PM -0600, Jeremy Olexa wrote: So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what? layman -i overlay name As a start: 1. How about somebody actually taking ownership of the layman.txt

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 03 January 2009, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:50:07 -0600 Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what? I specifically didn't go into the minor technical details (of files and formats and so on)

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI change: Call ebuild functions from trusted working directory

2008-10-24 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday 17 October 2008, Robert Buchholz wrote: On Monday 13 October 2008, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: It's a retroactive change to EAPI 0 that requires changes from package managers and has security implications... Robert isn't requesting that we specify and mandate existing behaviour here

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2008-10-19 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 19 October 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Now into it's Nth great year, I bring you the fourth edition of the automatic assignment proposal. /truman-show Yay! 5. Javascript then appends the server results into the Additional Comments box: a suggested assignee and suggested CC

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI change: Call ebuild functions from trusted working directory

2008-10-16 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 13 October 2008, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:42:21 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that this is an EAPI=0 change. Since EAPI=1 and EAPI=2 are just differences to EAPI=0, they wouldn't be voted on. Since EAPI=0 isn't actually

[gentoo-dev] EAPI change: Call ebuild functions from trusted working directory

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
Hello, currently, PMS section 10.1 states: Some functions may assume that their initial working directory is set to a particular location; these are noted below. If no initial working directory is mandated, it may be set to anything and the ebuild must not rely upon a particular location

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday 05 October 2008, Thilo Bangert wrote: Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:44:20 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either we need special cases to declare that it no longer has a homepage, or we need to allow the empty HOMEPAGE.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI

2008-10-05 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday, 5. October 2008, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: dodoc ${DOCS} || die dodoc failed This seems alright fine to me It's not. If you want to have default DOCS then you should loop through the items and check with [[ -e ]] before trying to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI

2008-10-05 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday, 5. October 2008, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Robert Buchholz wrote: It's not. If you want to have default DOCS then you should loop through the items and check with [[ -e ]] before trying to install them. So, maybe just do a 'dodoc ${DOCS}' and omit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI

2008-09-23 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Thomas Sachau wrote: Ulrich Mueller schrieb: And I still don't see why we would need the most general solution for a *default* function. There's always the possibility to write your own src_install() for the few ebuilds that need it. Ulrich I aggree with

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for September

2008-09-11 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday 11 September 2008, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:43:54 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [2] http://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/portage/eapi/eapi-2-draft.html By table 6.11, are you implying that you consider the new pkg_ phase order to be part of EAPI 2?

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday 05 September 2008, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 12:39:16AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: David Leverton wrote: 2008/9/5 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Both approaches are essentially equivalent but it's a little simpler for ebuild writer if they don't have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI 2 Draft

2008-09-05 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday 05 September 2008, Mike Auty wrote: From what I understand of the idea, the eclass will just change the SRC_URI field from the first case (sf=tgz) to the second case (-). Eclasses have to be sourced before the SRC_URI is determined because they can already add (and presumably alter)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-19 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 19 August 2008, Mark Loeser wrote: I am not sure how we would be able to enforce this across the board for forcefully retired developers. If we are talking policies, can someone please define the term 'forecefully retired'? What about people whom had been complained about to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday 01 August 2008, Chrissy Fullam wrote: Debian did exactly the same a couple of months ago prior to them moving out to OFTC (http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604) This addresses a question I raised a few days back regarding whether we were concerned that Gentoo moving to any

[gentoo-dev] Merging or overwriting KEYWORDS from eclass

2008-06-23 Thread Robert Buchholz
Hi, I've stumbled upon an inconsitency between package managers the other day [1], which was due to both an ebuild and an eclass defining inconsisting KEYWORDS. bla-1.ebuild: inherit myeclass KEYWORDS=~arch myeclass.eclass: KEYWORDS=arch Portage will resolve this by overwriting the

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.8 / gcc-4.3 build failures

2008-06-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 09 June 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: it seems packages are failing when built with glibc-2.8 and/or gcc-4.3. these are issues in the package, not the toolchain. previous versions were lazy and included API bleeding which packages took advantage of. with these newer versions, things

Re: [gentoo-dev] VCS repository overview for Gentoo

2008-06-01 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday 30 May 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: This is more of a reminder email than anything else, in my capacity as the VCS administrator for Gentoo. Thanks a lot for the overview, especially the part about public/private repositories. It would be great if this list could be maintained as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-05-18 23h59 UTC

2008-05-19 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 19 May 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Removals: ... dev-libs/libsigcx 2008-05-14 11:43:18 uid2153 Why was the username screwed up here? Judging from bug 191855, it was Remi who deleted it. Also, do we need the mail cross-posted to both -dev and -dev-announce? Robert

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new 'virtualization' project or herd

2008-05-18 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday, 16. May 2008, Tiziano Müller wrote: Mike Auty wrote: As one of the primary vmware devs, I'm not sure that vmware easily fits into this group based on it's closed-source nature, and the complex (but just about workable) module system we've put in place. I also wouldn't want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday 08 May 2008, Doug Goldstein wrote: Additionally to follow myself up, I believe one of the security issues was execution of arbitrary data either when untarred or just decompressed (assuming a  specially crafted lzma file). Can you please point me to the location where this is

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite: sys-apps/systrace (security/treecleaners)

2008-04-21 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 21 April 2008, Santiago M. Mola wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (21 Apr 2008) # Masked for removal in 30 days. Doesn't build # wrt bug 178036 and has open CVE-2007-4773 wrt # security bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Bugzilla enhancements wrt AT work

2008-03-18 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 18 March 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: As the Bugzilla admin, this sounds reasonable, and it plays into some of my plans wrt to Bugzilla3. In that, depending on some bits with Bugzie3, I'd like to consider a radical re-arrangement of Products and Components, to help users find the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New keyword monkey: Kenneth Prug (ken69267)

2008-03-08 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 08 March 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: Joining us from the zoos of Florida, we have Kenneth keninsert random numbers here Prugh. Ken did such a fine job testing all those random packages for amd64 that it will be the sole purpose of his life from now on. He tells me his hobby is to

Re: [gentoo-dev] retiring + looking maintainers for sendmail, tenshi, scapy, ftester

2008-02-07 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Andrea Barisani wrote: Hi folks, I'm retiring. Sorry to hear that. I was maintaining the following packages: app-admin/tenshi (note: I'm upstream as well) mail-mta/sendmail net-analyzer/scapy net-analyzer/ftester (note: I'm upstream as well)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday, 14. January 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for questions to put on a new user survey. For style of questions, multiple choice (both pick-one and pick-many) or simple integers would be best. However some freeform

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving use.desc

2008-01-05 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday, 4. January 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 14:59 Wed 02 Jan , Mike Kelly wrote: While you're at it, I think almost everything in desc/video_cards.desc, desc/input_devices.desc, and a few more, could use some attention. In particular, things like nv vs. nvidia are quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] scm package version suffix

2007-12-10 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday, 10. December 2007, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Why not just have something like sys-devel/gcc-4.2.3_p20071127-scm_b${BRANCHNAME}-r1 ? 1) You cannot define a total order on those names: Is maa/moo-3-scm_bONECOOLFEATURE maa/moo-3-scm_bOTHERCOOLFEATURE ? 2) It will break updating

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] scm package version suffix

2007-12-10 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday, 10. December 2007, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Dec 10, 2007 6:29 PM, Robert Buchholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) You cannot define a total order on those names: Is maa/moo-3-scm_bONECOOLFEATURE maa/moo-3-scm_bOTHERCOOLFEATURE ? Why not have them block each other

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: pam_console

2007-11-15 Thread Robert Buchholz
# Diego Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] (15 Nov 2007) # Masked for security vulnerability, see bug #199193. # Will be removed on December 15th 2007. sys-auth/pam_console (in case of replies, please keep Diego in CC) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag transition: tetex and latex

2007-11-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
Am 07.11.2007 um 14:09 schrieb Ferris McCormick: On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 09:13 +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote: Hi, Yes, we should introduce tex, latex and kpathsea USE flags. Anyone? +1 for latex kpathsea. How/when do we start ? :) I'd say start moving useflags on a per package basis,

Re: [gentoo-dev] New staff : Elias Pipping (pipping)

2007-10-28 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday, 27. October 2007, Denis Dupeyron wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce Elias Piping (pipping) who is joining us as staff. He will do general development and bug solving for the Gentoo/alt project. Elias is familiar with Tcl, Ruby, Python, Perl, Java, sed, awk and bash. He admits

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php5/pecl-pdo*

2007-10-08 Thread Robert Buchholz
Am 08.10.2007 um 10:05 schrieb Christian Hoffmann: On 2007-10-08 at 05:37 +0200, Robert Buchholz wrote: On Thursday, 4. October 2007, Christian Hoffmann wrote: # Christian Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] (04 Oct 2007) # Outdated (no releases since May 2006), buggy and possibly vulnerable

Re: [gentoo-dev] new-style virtual/editor

2007-10-07 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday, 5. October 2007, Olivier Crête wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-10 at 11:46 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: How many packages depend on virtual/editor? Should it be a virtual at all? Tester_ !rdep virtual/editor jeeves virtual/editor - app-admin/sudo sys-process/fcron I think the answer

Re: [gentoo-dev] new-style virtual/editor

2007-10-07 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Sunday, 7. October 2007, Alec Warner wrote: On 10/7/07, Robert Buchholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 5. October 2007, Olivier Crête wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-10 at 11:46 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: How many packages depend on virtual/editor? Should it be a virtual at all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php5/pecl-pdo*

2007-10-07 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday, 4. October 2007, Christian Hoffmann wrote: # Christian Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] (04 Oct 2007) # Outdated (no releases since May 2006), buggy and possibly vulnerable # to security problems Anything security-related you know of or just a wild guess? Robert signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-fs/ncdu: ChangeLog ncdu-1.3.ebuild

2007-10-07 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday, 4. October 2007, Josh Sled wrote: Wolfram Schlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-03 19:12]: On 12:43 Wed 03 Oct , Wolfram Schlich wrote: And *please*, don't send such mails to this list *and* to my address in addition. You can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla improvements

2007-09-27 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday, 27. September 2007, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 03:05:28PM +0300, Olivier Cr?te wrote: Is this really required? It pushes the real content even farther down the window. Or if you really want to keep it for new users, please allow us to disable that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-tv/linuxtv-dvb-apps: ChangeLog linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.1.20070924.ebuild

2007-09-25 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday, 25. September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 20:04 Mon 24 Sep , Doug Goldstein (cardoe) wrote: if ! use usb; then sed -i util/Makefile \ -e '/ttusb_dec_reset/d' \ -e '/dib3000-watch/d' fi # do not

Re: [gentoo-dev] commit reviewing ... new list or keep it on -dev ?

2007-09-18 Thread Robert Buchholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 18.09.2007 um 01:33 schrieb Mike Frysinger: ive been sending private e-mails as i didnt want to make a lot of noise, but many of the comments i make i imagine would be applicable to a lot of people ... i also see others doing reviews and such

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

2007-09-15 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday, 15. September 2007, Samuli Suominen wrote: Is that legal? - drac http://www.cafepress.com/buy/gentoo/-/cfpt2_/copt_/cfpt_/source_searc hBox/x_0/y_0 CafePress is the official gentoo.org store, see: http://www.cafepress.com/officialgentoo/ I guess that includes our stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Release managment

2007-08-02 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday, 2. August 2007 19:35, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Martin Michlmayr, Debian Project Leader from 2003 to 2005, has finished his Phd thesis about Quality improvement in volunteer software projects [1] .. he gave a short introduction on the whole topic on Google Tech Talks:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday, 24. July 2007 14:26, Petteri Räty wrote: Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 +0200 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make it impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday, 20. July 2007 23:48, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 18:54 +0200, Thomas Scharl wrote: Anyways this is more of philosophical/social issue to discuss about than a technical one. One thing that I had been considering bringing up and getting help with is some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-19 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Thursday, 19. July 2007 22:39, Jeroen Roovers wrote: Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Associate an irc-channel with each package. Associate how? Sounds like a lot of work at the least and a lot of cruft at the worst. It could be included in the herds.xml: herd namekde/name

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC : New ebuild function pkg_create for creating corespondent sorce tarball

2007-07-17 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday, 17. July 2007 13:16, Mike Auty wrote: It also means that if a developer has had to move files around or in some way create the specific layout of the tarball for the ebuild, they won't be lost if the dev goes away, or retires, etc. So attaching the specific package creation code

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Buchholz
Am 13.07.2007 um 00:43 schrieb Chrissy Fullam: The -dev mailing list would be the list for development discussion. The reason it does not replace -core is because it would still be open to be viewed by the public. Many devs have stated that they do not wish to read -dev presently due to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-tv/freevo

2007-07-11 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Wednesday, 11. July 2007 21:28, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, # unmaintained, masked for removal, bug 156497 # You can find a new version in the sunrise overlay media-tv/freevo-1.7.2 I'll take over (proxy) maintenance of it, beandog (media-tv) agreed to lend a hand and we have _AxS_ from

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.6 / gcc-4.2 going into ~arch

2007-07-06 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Friday, 6. July 2007 10:09, Petteri Räty wrote: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: get your waaait dont do it votes in now, i plan on pushing: glibc-2.6 ~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86 gcc-4.2.0 ~amd64 ~x86 in the next day or so -mike About how many packages will break with the new gcc version?

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-13 Thread Robert Buchholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 12.06.2007 um 13:29 schrieb Christoph Mende: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:59:42 +0200 cilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:53 PM, cilly wrote: Additional: Sometimes the chance for the users to place the ebuild comfortably into

Re: [gentoo-dev] Increasing contributions and interest via personal project aggregation

2007-05-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 09.05.2007 um 07:44 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: Hi all, I'm sure I'm not the only one with a number of projects I'll never get to, but I'd really like them to happen anyway. I suggest we create some sort of page that aggregates all of these

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Robert Buchholz
Grant Goodyear wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Sat Mar 24 2007, 11:38:45AM CDT] On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:30:55 -0700 Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Goodyear wrote: [snip] PS. So, anybody have any actual technical comments about this proposal? Yes. pioto's proposal is weak.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-20 Thread Robert Buchholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 20.03.2007 um 09:35 schrieb Ioannis Aslanidis: What I personally think out of all this situation is nice propaganda for Gentoo, which we could somehow exploit in 'our benefit'. Anyone with ideas on how to promote our distribution even with that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: profile changelogs

2007-01-16 Thread Robert Buchholz
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 09:22 -0700, Steve Dibb wrote: Would that Changelog in profiles/ need to be updated for stuff recursively as well? I made some changes to default-linux/amd64/ stuff, but I added the changes to the ChangeLog for that directory. That would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add LCD_DEVICES to USE_EXPAND

2007-01-10 Thread Robert Buchholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10.01.2007 at 13:56, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 01:15 +0100, Robert Buchholz wrote: * Who will add the entries to base/make.defaults? Can I do this? Not only *can* you, but you absolutely *must* do this if you're making

[gentoo-dev] Add LCD_DEVICES to USE_EXPAND

2007-01-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
Hi *, both app-misc/lcdproc and app-misc/lcd4linux can use numerous kinds of displays. The device selections are right now handled via environment variables and/or single use flags. I would like to unify possible devices via the USE_EXPAND'ed LCD_DEVICES. Right now, this would contain about 50

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add LCD_DEVICES to USE_EXPAND

2007-01-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:15:45 +0100 Robert Buchholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I would like to unify possible devices via the USE_EXPAND'ed | LCD_DEVICES. Right now, this would contain about 50 devices [1]. How standardised is the naming of these devices? It's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: metadatabase

2007-01-04 Thread Robert Buchholz
Ryan Hill wrote: Steve Long wrote: Robert Buchholz wrote: Since the tree itself is the best database of the packages available, anything else would be a lot more overhead. I really don't agree, altho I could well be missing something. Surely there should be a maintenance/QA database which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages

2007-01-04 Thread Robert Buchholz
Steve Long schrieb: In terms of maintaining the metadata, am I right in thinking it's all just kept within the text files in the tree? Since the tree itself is the best database of the packages available, anything else would be a lot more overhead. I really don't agree, altho I could well be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages

2007-01-01 Thread Robert Buchholz
Steve Long wrote: Alec Warner wrote: Er, his point being that if you don't do the upgrade all at once, you have two classes of package. 1. Packages that don't require C-compiler 2. Packages that don't yet depend upon C-compiler When doing the upgrade over a period of time the two classes

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