Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-10 Thread Roy Bamford
right now, > > and none of them look to be critical, so I vote "no" on your > proposal unless > > there is some verifiable reason why eudev is no longer suitable to > be the > > default udev provider. > [snip] > ...because of fear of > what

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.08.08 23:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 4:17 PM Roy Bamford > wrote: > > > > With the declared aim from upstream of making udev inseparable from > > systemd, its not something to be done lightly. > > That's the entire reason that eudev was n

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-08 Thread Roy Bamford
making udev inseparable from systemd, its not something to be done lightly. That's the entire reason that eudev was necessary. I would want some convincing that it was not another step on the road to Gentoo being assimilated by systemd. We had this discussion several years ago when the default

Re: [gentoo-dev] */*: Mask Py2 only packages

2020-06-20 Thread Roy Bamford
2 is not on your list. Be first into the future by masking this stuff and Last out of the past by leaving up to users to decide. It could stay in the tree, masked, as long as python2. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 pgp9CIkLXPSD0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Foundations Trustee Election 2020 - Election Team Formation

2020-06-17 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.06.17 10:40, David Abbott wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:08 AM Roy Bamford > wrote: > > > > Team, > > > > Its time to kick off the Trustee Election for this year. > > > > It will span June 21 to about August 3. > > We need two

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Foundations Trustee Election 2020 - Election Team Formation

2020-06-17 Thread Roy Bamford
candidates should not apply. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 pgpzBD_87RDHL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Election 2020 - Call For Election Officials

2020-05-30 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.05.30 13:14, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 6:09 AM Roy Bamford > wrote: > > > > We sill need more volunteers. > > > > Not going to be running, so I'm happy to pitch in. > > -- > Rich > > > Rich, Thank you. -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Election 2020 - Call For Election Officials

2020-05-30 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.05.29 21:10, David Abbott wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 4:03 PM Roy Bamford > wrote: > > > > Team, > > > > Our current council will hold their last meeting on 14-Jun-20. > > We therefore need to elect a new council before the July meeting. >

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Election 2020 - Call For Election Officials

2020-05-29 Thread Roy Bamford
and again, real life can intervene at the last moment. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 pgpQSMgQtzZQs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] zoom concerns

2020-04-07 Thread Roy Bamford
to publish advice based on beliefs or opinions, there is no requirement for beliefs or opinions to be based on fact but we are not discussing beliefs or opinions here. In summary, we can't be sure of our facts. We can't be sure that any warning complete and correct. Gentoo must not single out an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources

2020-01-05 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.01.04 13:43, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > On 2020-01-04 14:08, Roy Bamford wrote: > > emerge -1 vanilla-sources > > eselect kernel ... > > genkernel all > > ... > > Please tell user to do > > genkernel --kernel-config=/proc/config.gz all >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources

2020-01-04 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2020.01.04 12:54, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 6:42 AM Roy Bamford > wrote: [snip] > > Apparently git and tar are too complicated for Gentoo users, but > managing symlinks, using make, managing a bootloader, dealing with the > kernel's configuration system,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources

2020-01-04 Thread Roy Bamford
re are probably other packages that only install whatever they fetch. Could they be dropped? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 pgpNeBPcQXuuf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need ARM/AArch64 test data for cpuid2cpuflags

2019-10-01 Thread Roy Bamford
fail there, as it does not have them but they might work on the Pi, as it does. Other than pointing out the problem, I don't know how to test further. Guidance welcome. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 pgp5Xqz7kShdv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Mass last-riting of x86-but-not-amd64 packages

2019-08-31 Thread Roy Bamford
4 multilib compat by > now. > > --- > [snip list] > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > > -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 pgp66BNhk29KZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New QA policy: Packages must not disable installing manpages via USE flags

2019-07-17 Thread Roy Bamford
aware of users that do. I like to have the choice to not build documentation on low power systems. Its a part of Gentoos flexibility that should not be removed. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods arm64 pgpsuZgzBJDUh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [News item review] amd64 17.1 profiles are now stable

2019-05-19 Thread Roy Bamford
ee the wiki article > on AMD64 multilib layouts [2]. > > [1]:https://bugs.gentoo.org/506276 > [2]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:AMD64/Multilib_layout > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > > > > > Team, "These profiles switch to a more standard 'n

Re: [gentoo-dev] State of elogind integration and the default +elogind local USE flag on xorg-server.

2019-03-22 Thread Roy Bamford
curity -xephyr -xnest" elogind is hard masked and suid is being turned off. Its arm64, so I expect to find a few rough edges. However, changes like this need to be coordinated across all arches. Take a pat on the back for the elogind work and a slap on the wrist if my arm64 systems don'

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP r3] Gentoo binary package container format

2018-11-30 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2018.11.30 17:06, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 21:43 +0000, Roy Bamford wrote: > > On 2018.11.26 18:58, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Here's the newest version. > > > > > > Changes: > > > > > > - added explicit

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP r3] Gentoo binary package container format

2018-11-26 Thread Roy Bamford
cluded as the last of the files in the binary package container. [snip] > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > Its a nit today but that says that any future extensions, none yet planned, should be placed before the image archive. The specification needs to avoid the use of re

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP r1] Gentoo binary package container format

2018-11-19 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2018.11.19 19:33, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:21 PM Roy Bamford > wrote: > > > > "The archive members support optional OpenPGP signatures. > > The implementations must allow the user to specify whether OpenPGP > > signatures are to be ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP r1] Gentoo binary package container format

2018-11-19 Thread Roy Bamford
ned with the same key? That could happen if one person makes a binpackage and someone else updates the metadata. > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpX6ueFyt3EF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Fwd: Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Gentoo binary package container format [gen...@jonesmz.com]

2018-11-18 Thread Roy Bamford
See attached. Replying off list because I am not on the whitelist ... -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods --- Begin Message --- On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 5:04 AM Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2018.11.18 09:38, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sun, 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Gentoo binary package container format

2018-11-18 Thread Roy Bamford
e use of any Gentoo specific tooling. The current tarball of tarballs proposal would satisfy that requirement. Its unlikely that a custom binary format would. Of course, this being Gentoo someone would write a run anywhere script that did the unpicking, We already have deb2targz and rpm2targz. We h

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Gentoo binary package container format

2018-11-17 Thread Roy Bamford
single package stage3 when a user needs a get out of jail free card. Does this proposal allow for installing the payload without the use of the Gentoo package manager from some random distro being used as a rescue media? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-o

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Solving the problem of huge number of wrong LICENSES=*GPL-[23]

2018-08-26 Thread Roy Bamford
ndled libs? Do you trust upstream to have that that right too? It looks like a lot of work for what is at most, a convenience to users. What matters most is the licensing for things we distribute as binaries. That would make an interesting and more manageable test case. As has already been pointed out. Fixing it is one thing, keeping it fixed is another. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgplAdhXytuo_.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-20 Thread Roy Bamford
something similar comes to mind. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of arm64 elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpU9UN94Wo7a.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

2018-06-23 Thread Roy Bamford
entire Linux community, a point already made by others. In volunteer groups things get done by those who want to do them. Others join later. I think the quote I'm looking for is "Build it and they will come". -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpVfuXnGRrnH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestions for simplifying VIDEO_CARDS situation

2018-06-17 Thread Roy Bamford
CARDS flags according to the > video card(s) you have. > > This would be along the same lines as the > app-portage/cpuid2cpuflags pkg. Then the pkg is updated as new > drivers > and combinations are changed. Perhaps have it run in pkg_postisnt to > print any irregular

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Portage fork: sys-apps/portage-mgorny

2018-03-23 Thread Roy Bamford
the one in the tree and it gets masked too. Its not a problem to me as I know how to manage it. Its just untidy. With apologies to Pacho for citing his name in the worked example. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpTpwKGF0FbM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions on overlays, repositories and PMS

2018-02-24 Thread Roy Bamford
that portage's current effort is to have all > configuration files in /etc/portage or in the profile. > > Best, > Michael Lienhardt > > > Michael, 'Support' can be as simple as nagging the user to move with the times and failing. I suspect that many older syst

Re: [gentoo-dev] SAT-based dependency solver: request for test cases

2018-02-06 Thread Roy Bamford
kage.accept_keywords" but thats a recent name change. PACKAGE_KEYWORDS="/etc/portage/package.keywords" is the old name and my older systems still use that. You probably need to harvest both and process both as portage does. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpjZkguBNLdT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Split distfile mirror directory structure

2018-01-27 Thread Roy Bamford
d foo.tar.gz bar.tar.gz > > ...and it will place the files in the right subdirectories. > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > > > > Michał, How does this work for fetch restricted files and finding other files no longer on the mirrors? Its no longer a download

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-11 Thread Roy Bamford
l address from the ML not require that process too? Gentoo does not have any other disiplinary process than the action by comrel that you describe. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgp0aZ8m0b6IP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Roy Bamford
> Gentoo Linux developer > (council, toolchain, perl, libreoffice, comrel) Andreas, Being somwhat old and cynical, I'm seeing signs of history repeating itself. Does being 'struck off' the list in this way apply to devs, including Council and comrel members? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddy

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-21 Thread Roy Bamford
fline before pushing the binaries to production. Then they can run whatever they want. Every Gentoo install is different and very few possible combinations are actually tested. By all means lower the bar for ~arch. Say, to "builds and works for me, needs more testing". The down side is that it will create more bug reports and more work, so it may only exchange one problem for another. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgp1acaAGrvTc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread Roy Bamford
ou can start with gcc-5.4 with the gcj use flag. That will bootstrap icedtea:7 icedtea:7 will bootstrap icedtea:8 Tested on arm64. With icedtea:7 going and gcc-5.4 not having a very long future, building icedtea for a new arch will be painful. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpgyRdsSikdz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] GLEP 74: Full-tree verification using Manifest files

2017-10-26 Thread Roy Bamford
Pruning the repository at rsync time will therefore remove the manifents and the files that they cover. Is that understanding correct? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgp6HmH_FLlOR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] The status of grsecurity upstream and hardened-sources downstream

2017-06-23 Thread Roy Bamford
Leader > Mail: Alice Ferrazzi <ali...@gentoo.org> > PGP: 2E4E 0856 461C 0585 1336 F496 5621 A6B2 8638 781A > > Alice, Forking with what aim? Keeping the existing functionality alive in line with kernel developments or that and adding new features. -- Regards, Roy Bamford

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Restricted version of gentoo-dev mailing list

2017-05-29 Thread Roy Bamford
s://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander > > ... and some of those lost users might have gone on to become devs. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpLoBjumJszq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Pre-GLEP: Security Project

2017-03-12 Thread Roy Bamford
re is no pulse from the Security Project? This isn't really a Security Project issue. If its ever needed, the Security Project isn't active. It affects other projects too, like comrel, QA and others. Perhaps there is a common solution to taking a proqcts pulse and reacting when there

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab update

2016-10-27 Thread Roy Bamford
epreciate the use of udev symlinks in fstab. Some time later, remove udev-settle and have another news item. By now, users will have reacted to the first news item or sympathy can be minimal. In the interim, nothing should break because a news item was not read and acted on immediately. That's the important bit ... nothing breaks on user systems. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods pgpRXKeMRcwoT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFD] Adopt-a-package, proxy-maintenance, and other musings

2016-01-22 Thread Roy Bamford
o remove it from the tree. Actively building every package in the tree to discover candidates for removal takes a lot more resources than searching bugs to identify potential candidates. Its the old case of absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFD] Adopt-a-package, proxy-maintenance, and other musings

2016-01-21 Thread Roy Bamford
those old > packages around more power to them, but they definitely do not > belong in the main tree if they are unmaintained for an extended > period > of time. > > William > > There is no point in removing unmaintained but perfectly functional software from the tree. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hello Everyone

2015-02-22 Thread Roy Bamford
. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpdW2SQKTl3b.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild copyright assignment

2015-02-22 Thread Roy Bamford
entities, so are subject to New Mexico law. Of course, if you are not in New Mexico, or even the USA, that law may not apply to you and that's where the minefield starts. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpxPySl2nRlI.pgp Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] PowerPC status

2014-09-20 Thread Roy Bamford
(halcy0n) Gysbert Wassenaar (nixnut) Michael Weber (xmw) [snip] Thanks, -- Jack Morgan Pub 4096R/761D8E0A 2010-09-13 Jack Morgan jmor...@gentoo.org Fingerprint = DD42 EA48 D701 D520 C2CD 55BE BF53 C69B 761D 8E0A I'm fairly sure nixnut retired. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch

2014-06-30 Thread Roy Bamford
to the old way. This just represents a change of workflow with time. The question then is do we need to formalise the changed workflow, or can both be allowed to continue side by side? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpwJVV2X65ZZ.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch

2014-06-30 Thread Roy Bamford
in a few minutes. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpjfKriB3eLY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using .xz for doc/man/info compression

2014-05-14 Thread Roy Bamford
block size (unless you really want to), choose a static limit below which compression will not be applied. That eliminates the discussion about small files. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpN77XN8fctg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-03-02 Thread Roy Bamford
become the centre of a religious war with Zelots on both sides. All an INSTALL_MASK_OVERRIDE would do is escalate the war. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpLFfXk4wQ0s.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

2014-01-11 Thread Roy Bamford
. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpE_PYpv0WRt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New project: Licenses

2013-11-29 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2013.11.22 09:38, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Roy Bamford wrote: Indeed, that's one of the two TLPs that were suggested. The past QA disliked having Licenses as their subproject, though. It depends on how the role of QA is defined: If it is seen as primarily

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: New project: Licenses

2013-11-21 Thread Roy Bamford
... or maybe a sub committee of the Gentoo Foundation Inc? because of the non technical and legal implications of the work. Trustees get involved with licence corner cases anyway, so a team of advisors would be a good fit. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Roy Bamford
around for three years, iirc. Don't we do that ? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpWUwOIhL2tc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-10 Thread Roy Bamford
...@gentoo.org The Gnome team has made their choice. I'm the light of that, users can now make their own choices. That's what Gentoo is about after all ... choice. I fully support the Gnome teams choice ... now I have to make one of my own. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Roy Bamford
a warning about the upcoming change so I cam manage it for myself, if I'm feeling nervous. Any notification of key packages changing like this is appreciated. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpdJ1Fe7qHuW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council constituent meeting 30 July 2013 at 19:00 UTC

2013-07-23 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2013.07.22 22:51, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org [snip] Please keep voting in public. Its good for accountability. If not in IRC, find a way to publish who voted and now. Council do not get a secret ballot. Agreed. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council constituent meeting 30 July 2013 at 19:00 UTC

2013-07-23 Thread Roy Bamford
stupid that sounds? -Zero [snip] Rick, The council should not be denied the ability to reach decisions between meetings for the few times it will actually be needed. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpkeMSUUdHPC.pgp Description

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council constituent meeting 30 July 2013 at 19:00 UTC

2013-07-21 Thread Roy Bamford
it be? [with apologies to Douglas Adams] [snip] Best, Andreas -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer (council, kde) dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpOBoQV65j2k.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-25 Thread Roy Bamford
me? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpbYloqrAwkT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Temporary DevRel actions for CoC violations

2013-06-20 Thread Roy Bamford
. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) an member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item -- baselayout-1.x deprecation final warning

2013-04-07 Thread Roy Bamford
the baselayout-1 syntax in /etc/conf.d/net and friends a while longer. A friendly link to the update guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml may be in order too. I've seen many users on baselayout-2 with baselayout-1 net files. This news item will bypass them. -- Regards, Roy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Bugday

2013-02-28 Thread Roy Bamford
the forums announce. Eventually, it will be a habit. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgppEk_DtZefo.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Bugday

2013-02-27 Thread Roy Bamford
announce for the old bugday. That can be revived too if you want. The old bugday ran to a calender, so the announces went up a week beforehand. Are you goings to stick to the first Saturday in the month ? Good luck with the revived bugday. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: linux-firmware

2013-02-22 Thread Roy Bamford
can't imagine the other Trustees would be opposed)! Rich Works for me too, so thats a majority vote of Trustees. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpJWmB3h542p.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-05 Thread Roy Bamford
reason that everything else happens in Gentoo. Someone is interested in doing it. I agree its not 'core business' but Gentoo isn't a business. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpdIQacGgwHH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Roy Bamford
, improvement means change but change is not always improvement. I'll summarise it in a post French revolution saying ... Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. What would make Gentoo more awsome next year? Getting more devs on board so existing things can move faster. -- Regards, Roy Bamford

Re: [gentoo-dev] gen_usr_ldscript --libdir=/lib

2012-12-28 Thread Roy Bamford
. William I don't think the 'luddites' have quite so black and white a view as that but if I expand on it much more, I'll reignite a flamewar we have already had. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpM7U4Uf69D8.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing

2012-12-22 Thread Roy Bamford
in their own time with their own resources. thanks, greg k-h -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpom4yRBTmZ3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] College Course in Gentoo Development

2012-12-17 Thread Roy Bamford
? Will the lectures be recorded? -ZC I would be interested in an online version too. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpNo4gexStsn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-17 Thread Roy Bamford
, if we decide to outsource the website project, it needs to be carefully controlled. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpTJWDmoCdNZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Roy Bamford
. Success comes in many forms, so I won't try to predict exactly what that means. Suffice to say, we will all recognise it when we see it. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpXmthqMgHAa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] fixing LICENSE issues without reporting bugs

2012-11-25 Thread Roy Bamford
have different opinions. What seems trivial today, may not be trivial tomorrow if a licencor gets upset. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpnkQh05fT1u.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] fixing LICENSE issues without reporting bugs

2012-11-25 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2012.11.25 14:42, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: From the point of view of the licencor, the licence is just as important as the code, so there are no trivial licence issues. As a trustee, I am unhappy with losing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-28 Thread Roy Bamford
Duncan, You don't want to listen to Presidents too much. Look at other real life examples. Would you claim that the President of the Gentoo Foundation speaks for Gentoo? -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) Gentoo Foundation Inc. (President)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Killing UEFI Secure Boot

2012-06-21 Thread Roy Bamford
you build a dud kernel and flash your BIOS with it, and we all build the odd dud, your motherboard is bricked. Now what? Get out your JTAG adaptor and another PC I suppose. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgp8XbNre5giw.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New license: yEd Software License Agreement

2012-04-28 Thread Roy Bamford
. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-29 Thread Roy Bamford
, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-29 Thread Roy Bamford
packages that emerge -e world just updated for you. [snip] Rich -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees

Re: [gentoo-dev] Documentating advanced portage feaetures in Gentoo Handbook

2012-01-03 Thread Roy Bamford
to help in the introductory Gentoo text. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpFnzRv5ItmE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] License for Google Chrome

2011-08-27 Thread Roy Bamford
the licence before they install and subsequently use the package. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgppbhFEDuhtW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-25 Thread Roy Bamford
in. Thats no worse than being nagged about unread news. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpz8BkPEPndt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-20 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2011.08.20 23:20, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: As far as I am aware, under the current organisation there is no legal connection between the Gentoo Foundation Inc., and the Gentoo distribution. [snip] Regardless

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-19 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2011.08.19 07:50, Duncan wrote: Roy Bamford posted on Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:41:15 +0100 as excerpted: [snip] Just as long as we can provide the patch sets for a period of at least three years, in case someone asks. Thats a GPL requirement. Thats not to say the files need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-18 Thread Roy Bamford
need to be online but Gentoo needs to be able to provide them on request. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpLniAICC5Gs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council 2011 / 2012 election nomination

2011-06-08 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2011.06.08 01:50, David wrote: I nominate William Hubbs (williamh) -- David Abbott (dabbott) Gentoo http://dev.gentoo.org/~dabbott/ David, It has to be on gentoo-proj...@lists.gentoo.org or it doesn't count. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods

Re: [gentoo-dev] Test request: open-iscsi 2.0.872

2011-06-05 Thread Roy Bamford
. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpVYTuopcfuS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-30 Thread Roy Bamford
as I keep binpackages of everything I build. It still needed a liveCD boot. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpM8hqxKcRS8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations

2011-02-08 Thread Roy Bamford
up to date and it a trade off Gentoo users are aware off. Of course, that does not prevent them bringing breakages to our attention. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpXWHwIwNyRh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] avoiding urgent stabilizations

2011-02-08 Thread Roy Bamford
Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 I'll buy you a insert_refreshment_of_your_choice next time we meet. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgp1kdwTwgef8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Glep 48 update (as nominated for next meeting)

2011-01-29 Thread Roy Bamford
is not adhered to. [snip] jer Which is another way to say that QA is everyones job. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpC3h3asIyGY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Glep 48 update (as nominated for next meeting)

2011-01-28 Thread Roy Bamford
investigation, thats fine by me. Determining the root cause, and determining long term prevention takes some investigation. QA may present evidence but its Devrels job to weigh the evidence and pass sentence. Tom -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-21 Thread Roy Bamford
~/public_html has been deleted. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees pgpBmJ00REpD5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecate EAPIs 1 and 2?

2011-01-02 Thread Roy Bamford
you want to go back? Its a very educational experience but a reinstall is faster. The real killer is that some core system packages need EAPI0 to build. Personally, I don't regard tinderbox as any part of any officially supported upgrade path. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member

Re: [gentoo-dev] Technical talk ideas for FOSDEM

2010-12-13 Thread Roy Bamford
F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 Markos, Interesting - How can you address future strategy and plans without addressing Gentoos meta structure too. It could not be a purely technical talk ... but thats what interests me. It might be very Gentoo specific though. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon

Re: [gentoo-dev] install media and USB debugging

2010-12-11 Thread Roy Bamford
? This has the nasty side-effect of completely overwriting the kernel log buffer with junk when booting from a USB cdrom drive. [snip] Andrea Andrea, Please file a bug at bugs.gentoo.org That will get into the right developers work queue -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI versioning of files in profiles

2010-11-01 Thread Roy Bamford
metadata like this, or some other way, lets make it consistent throughout the tree. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees

Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011

2010-08-26 Thread Roy Bamford
a possibility. I might get there this year but I won't know until Christmas. -- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees

[gentoo-dev] Council Election Results

2010-07-04 Thread Roy Bamford
-- Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees

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