+1, been using eudev since starting with gentoo, in fact, it was one of the prime motivators of trying out gentoo [1].
[1]: using gentoo for about a year now and primary reason for me and about 2 colleagues who switched with me was "a linux distro with enough flexibility to completely avoid systemd/logind/polkit/policykit/networkmanager/modemmanager at ./configure level". The resulting system is extremely simple conceptually, with a low process count. On 02/09/16 18:18, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:44:03 -0500 > Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> I'll admit this has been a bit of an emotional thread for me. I think >> my frustration comes from the fact that it seems like the whole reason >> that eudev exists is because people really strongly believe that >> systemd isn't the right way to go, and yet those same people don't >> seem to realize that others might feel just as strongly that eudev >> isn't the right way to go. >> > > I started the replies with a simple +1, and that I had switched to > eudev... No, "Down with the evil systemd.borg" comments > > As one of the few huge threads that I have been reading. It is you > that has been taking this thread more in the direction of something > akin to a preacher shouting we're all going to burn in hell for even > considering switching the default. While you were obviously more > emotional, Anthony was very calmly, and clearly refuting many of your > statements. > > >> Surely anybody suggesting switching to eudev as the default >> virtual/udev provider had to have realized that this would create a >> huge controversy. >> > > BUT WHY DOES it have to be!!!!! > > Why can't we as a group simply respond to something like this with a > simple +1, -1 and a few pros/cons > > Why must it become yet another shouting match. And I'm sorry to have to > tell you this, but you have been leading the charge in that direction. > > >> Even if standalone udev is a dead-end (something that is speculation >> at this point), it isn't like the code that exists today will suddenly >> stop working. Worst case we just have to change the default at a >> later point in time. >> >> Even just kicking the can down the road has a lot of advantages: >> 1. Everything works fine today. > > yes > >> 2. We don't know for sure that it will ever stop working. > > no, we don't > >> 3. Deferring a decision means we don't have to wage a huge battle >> over which way the decision ought to go. > > As I pointed out above, you seem to be leading the battle charge. > > Why couldn't you have simply replied "-1 I use systemd like most other > distros" and "It works for me as is" and leave it at that. > >> 4. If we do have to make a decision in the future, we'll have more >> information to act on. >> > > put off till tomorrow what you can avoid doing today... tsk, tsk, tsk > > IT IS A SIMPLE POLL of the possibility of switching the default VIRTUAL > we were suppose to be talking about/voting on!!!! > > > > Sorry everyone for a little shouting of my own. >
