Re: [gentoo-dev] Concerns about WIPE_TMP change
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Mike Frysinger schreef: On Saturday 19 January 2008, Roy Marples wrote: On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 02:48 +0100, Stefan de Konink wrote: In my opinion WIPE_TMP should be in the same state as RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP. That's a fair point. how ? these two options are not related in the slightest. Because both options should be enabled manually under the presumption if one knows what one is doing. Potential dataloss vs Potential boot problems, I think that is the same ball park. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHkmWYYH1+F2Rqwn0RCsuKAJ9JYYk75AU0DkmDKV7nS/MPdeNLRACeIaIl jZnOJaxMD4MnO0wGS4JnZSk= =fK5B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Concerns about WIPE_TMP change
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Mike Frysinger schreef: i can add an elog, but the arguments for not turning it on by default are far from convincing Please, only do this, and I'll stop about this subject. :) So something like *beep*beep*beep* /tmp will now by default cleaned upon restart, this behavior is configurable in /etc/conf.d/bootmisc. For more permanent temporary storage use /var/tmp. For more information about /tmp look at: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#TMPTEMPORARYFILES Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHkmzDYH1+F2Rqwn0RCvVLAJ95si3oUVrzvmvhyozzYcqf58UJEwCfYCz7 Ieark6Y+rPn+Q7NKH9ZB8lU= =xkJy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Concerns about WIPE_TMP change [offtopic]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Duncan schreef: Richard Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:55:53 -0500: Obscure? It's the directory name (says another with both /tmp and /var/ tmp on tmpfs). ...very offtopic but how are you all compiling stuff like firefox on a ram disk. Or is 8GB of ram very cheap suddenly? Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHkoUjYH1+F2Rqwn0RCiGcAKCFWHbUfmXHA6OJ47owQ23ACpfMFwCfVqFf tQ5D4kN+U2Oxs8WjaCl8FP0= =5UKn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Concerns about WIPE_TMP change [offtopic]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alec Warner schreef: But who compiles firefox? :) Probably everyone that noticed that the segmentation faults coming from the precompiled versions are annoying? Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHkpfdYH1+F2Rqwn0RCjLoAJ9dA6BN/2011ed1IFZ9aabPqoRtFQCeJAsF w8Pf3sgIwIyDQwQNY/O6t10= =PqIa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Concerns about WIPE_TMP change
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, I joined this mailinglist because of my concern pointed in: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206604 How stupid anyone could be that stores anything in /tmp. I think it is a problem to change the default behavior of a system that in essence will result in data loss. As pointed out by others you should not use /tmp to store data, my return question is then, why are the other ./tmp directories not wiped? If any ./tmp on a partition was 'kernel' governed I could agree that a semi-ramdisk would be gone upon reboot, or after an application was done running. But it is not. In any case my request would be to put a message with bells and beeps in the ebuild that cause the /etc/conf.d/bootmisc change announcing that by then the default option for /tmp is deletion on boot. To be consistent, also delete /var/tmp. If anyone thinks wiping /var/tmp is evil, please reconsider /tmp too. In my opinion WIPE_TMP should be in the same state as RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP. Unless anyone can make sure a user knows what he is doing, disable it. Yours Sincerely, Stefan de Konink ps. No I did not have data loss, like any good admin I read before I apply. And yes I prefer to store anything that will not cause harm, such as extracted sources for gdb use in /tmp. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHkVb/YH1+F2Rqwn0RCsK4AJ4wEQPC5MrCrZdIEzKIjJkh+pKNoQCfX1BG alIrUmXiM2kulk3p635PiZk= =57tK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list