Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php5/ZendOptimizer

2011-03-03 Thread Thilo Bangert
On Thursday 03 March 2011 22:26:38 Ole Markus With wrote: # Ole Markus With olemar...@gentoo.org (03 Mar 2011) # Masked 30 days for removal. # Fetch restrictions. Does not work with =dev-lang/php-5.3 dev-php5/ZendOptimizer i dont run ZendOptimizer currently, but i have used it in the past to

Re: [gentoo-dev] CUPS 1.4 and FFMpeg 0.6

2010-09-09 Thread Thilo Bangert
Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org said: Hi, a security stabilisation for Chromium [1] wants Cups 1.4 stable. My test requests on Planet Gentoo and via identi.ca revealed no real blockers, although people report that they needed to readd their printers in order to work. Does anybody

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for net-misc/omnievents

2010-08-31 Thread Thilo Bangert
Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org said: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Diego E. Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: # Diego E. Pettenņ flamee...@gentoo.org (30 Aug 2010) # on behalf of QA team # # Initial import in 2005 and never bumped; no users in tree; What does 'no users in tree'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-24 Thread Thilo Bangert
Or you just let a shell handle it. Does most of the things automatically, has a pretty low memory and startup overhead, and it tends to be quite human-readable. ... why would I want to remove a stable the biggest complaint about openrc is that its not in stable - go figure. ,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-24 Thread Thilo Bangert
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org said: On Tuesday, August 24, 2010 08:57:45 Thilo Bangert wrote: , efficient, known-good solution that does what you'd expect it to do and replace it with a new thingy that doesn't provide all the features, is harder to debug etc. etc.? I just don't see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

2010-08-20 Thread Thilo Bangert
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org said: Hi The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to track maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically generated. You can make use of this page to track packages that needs your love instead of searching bugzilla or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

2010-08-20 Thread Thilo Bangert
The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only updates the page when needed. Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to the page is necessary or not perhaps you can add a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-08-20 Thread Thilo Bangert
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org said: the front page of http://gentoo.org/ now links to a Google Calendar (see side bar). this has been around for a while, but it seems it's been more of an underground thing, so it's time to raise its awareness. like other aspects of Gentoo, all Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-08-20 Thread Thilo Bangert
has somebody found a way to access the gentoo calendar at google via anonymous caldav or a plain ics read only url? i'd like to add the gentoo calendar to my favorite calendaring software. the link from the Gentoo page shows you the Google calendar ID:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wiki(es) for Gentoo ?!

2010-08-20 Thread Thilo Bangert
Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org said: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:01:42 +0200, Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear all, can somebody summarize what the status is for one or more wikies for gentoo - its users and/or its developers or whatever. I can see this: http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org said: On 08/14/2010 10:29 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: So do I. Fixing your package and you don't even bother to send a *ready to go* patch upstream seems like a bit rude to me as well. Perhaps, we do have a complete different point of view in this one.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Thilo Bangert
So you want me to force everyone to update the package just to respect the LDFLAGS. yes. IIRC it has been stated on this list before, that a change which changes the resulting binary always needs to be done in a revbump. Why, since until recently, nobody gave a crap about this kind of QA

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33

2010-08-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org said: On 7 August 2010 02:18, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: The thing you're ignoring out of this g55 idiocy is that people don't particularly seem to want it. There has been an extremely vocal subgroup of paludis/exherbo devs pushing for it while

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project

2010-08-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org said: On 9 August 2010 14:29, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: sure would be nice if someone picked up the installer again ... No, it wouldn't. Best leave that dead and buried. Could you explain why you think so? Cheers, Ben signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project

2010-08-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
1) I assume most people who are crazy enough to 'install gentoo on thousands of machines' use some kind of image based installation process and not a color-by-numbers install vis-a-vis the handbook? Has anyone written a Gentoo installer that is not image based? 1.5) There is a hidden

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org said: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:31:52PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: It seems like few of our fellow developers don't know how to track down packages that don't respect LDFLAGS. Adding

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Security stabilisations

2010-07-17 Thread Thilo Bangert
Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org said: Hi, please avoid having stabilisation requests like http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327877, blocking a security bug. That way, architecture teams may not see the severity directly and it slips, leaving users with vulnerable versions longer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy for late/slow stabilizations

2010-06-28 Thread Thilo Bangert
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org said: On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 08:15:32PM +0200, Auke Booij wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: What? I am talking about exotic arches and I didn't say to drop to entire stable tree. Just to shrink it in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding AdobeFlash-10{,.1} licenses to EULA group

2010-06-23 Thread Thilo Bangert
Domen Kožar do...@dev.si said: This should probably be updated: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-amd64-faq.xml#flash Thanks for noticing this. Everybodies input makes Gentoo a great place to be! Now, if you want that extra chocolate chip cookie, please head over to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving more developer data to LDAP, for scalability/redundancy (away, foward, permissive, SMTP password, plan) [WAS: Suggestion to ask devs to change their bugzilla name]

2010-06-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
This thread belongs to gentoo-project. perhaps its time to reduce the number of mailinglists again. IMHO it doesnt hurt to have this thread on gentoo-dev and the volume of messages and their tone here has been sufficiently normal to again allow for more subjects. just my 2 cents kind regards

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion related with dropping keywords policy

2010-06-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org said: Hello Let my explain the problem and my suggestion to handle it better (at least from my point of view) with an example: Sometime ago I bumped bluez version from 4.39-r2 to 4.60, with that bump, a new and *optional* RDEPEND on sys-libs/libcap-ng was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES=test - FEATURES=test-fail-continue

2010-06-07 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org said: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:11:45 +0200 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: What do you think about doing the following change in /usr/portage/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults: replace test with test-fail-continue to make it just less

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES=test - FEATURES=test-fail-continue

2010-06-07 Thread Thilo Bangert
you make valid points regarding the overall improvement of the handling of test suites. I am not opposed to something like that being done... it still seems like there is agreement around the fact that something needs to be done about src_test. currently you cant run a system which generally

Re: [gentoo-dev] The importance of test suites

2010-02-21 Thread Thilo Bangert
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org said: On 2/21/10 5:08 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: I have one simple request. When you make a non-trivial change to an ebuild - a patch, a version bump, anything that can effect the behaviour of the package - please run the test suite. Yeah, on my dev box

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: MySQL 5.1 bump

2010-02-15 Thread Thilo Bangert
Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org said: On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:32:10PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/15/2010 11:21 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: This is my last blocker for getting MySQL 5.1 series into ~arch status. itle: MySQL 5.1 unmasking Author: Robin H.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Python-3.2-related changes

2010-02-09 Thread Thilo Bangert
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said: 2010-02-06 17:54:10 Mark Loeser napisał(a): Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said: 2010-02-05 17:40:00 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napisał(a): I consider filing bugs for not adjusted packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-17 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org said: I think we have a bigger problem with packages that have a maintainer, at least nominally, but said maintainer does not actually maintain the package anymore. full ack. i was thinking that maybe we need an 'easy-fix' team, which can do all the easy fixes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-17 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com said: I realise this is a lost cause, but... Repositories are databases, so /var/db/ is your friend. i like it. Closely followed by /var/lib/layman... wikipedia says in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard /var/lib/

[gentoo-dev] how to indicate co-maintainers welcome?

2010-01-17 Thread Thilo Bangert
Sebastian Pipping [snip] said: [snip] i chose maintainer-wanted to indicate that co-maintainers and non-maintainer-bumps are welcome. what valid means can i use to send such a message, instead? i dont know of any. i generally assume all packages are looking for more maintainers, but that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-17 Thread Thilo Bangert
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org said: On Sunday 17 January 2010 15:20:46 Thilo Bangert wrote: Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org said: I think we have a bigger problem with packages that have a maintainer, at least nominally, but said maintainer does not actually maintain the package

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-gfx/viewer

2010-01-04 Thread Thilo Bangert
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org said: [snip] Feel free to CC me on bugs related to this package if you find any more pressing issues. the standard way of indicating such an interest is to add yourself to metadata.xml. kind regards Thilo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: use.local.desc

2009-12-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org said: On 12/11/2009 10:30 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: Am Freitag 11 Dezember 2009 schrieb Christian Faulhammer: George Shapovalov (george) geo...@gentoo.org: Modified: use.local.desc Log: added local flags for new version of net-fs/coda

[gentoo-dev] irregular project metadata check

2009-12-08 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hi all, similarly to the metadata.xml check, the following is a list of small problems related to the project metadata as found in the gentoo CVS repository. research: Unknown developer: bradlyatc research: Retired devloper: blubber desktop-util: Retired devloper:

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular project metadata check

2009-12-08 Thread Thilo Bangert
Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org said: On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:20:36 +0100 Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, similarly to the metadata.xml check, the following is a list of small problems related to the project metadata as found in the gentoo CVS repository

[gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2009-12-07 Thread Thilo Bangert
Welcome to this years edition of the metadata check. Todays fingerpointing herd without email: secure-tunneling herd without email: middle-east app-admin/eselect-audicle herd empty app-admin/eselect-chuck herd empty app-admin/eselect-miniaudicle herd

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2009-12-07 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org said: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Thilo Bangert wrote: Welcome to this years edition of the metadata check. [...] You will find the complete log at [1]. Hmm, eselect is not known: | unknown maintainer: esel...@gentoo.org But it's in good company

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2009-12-07 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org said: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 12:56 +0100, Thilo Bangert wrote: Welcome to this years edition of the metadata check. dev-util/cucumber herd missing Fixed, but this is really a bug in metadata.dtd, which specifies !ELEMENT pkgmetadata

Re: [gentoo-dev] Individual developer signing

2009-12-03 Thread Thilo Bangert
BTW: About a third of the Manifests are signed [1]. if we really want to get there, maybe repoman should give a _small_ warning, starting now. i dont sign my commits and have seen how my commits removed signatures of others. i am not proud of it - but given that these are apparently never

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA is unimportant?

2009-11-09 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org said: [good stuff] i share this sentiment. lets stay an open community and encourage learning. if somebody improves a package then that is a good thing. even if it could be improved even more. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [gentoo-dev] a pragmatic approach to FEATURES [was FEATURES use or misuse?]

2009-11-08 Thread Thilo Bangert
[snip] I understand PMS/paludis wishing to duck the vars existance to make it go away, but I don't think it's a tenuable approach- as you yourself said above, in trying to do this cleanup you recognized that sometimes there was no alternative. yes - however, there not being an alternative at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Init systems portage category

2009-10-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
Victor Ostorga vosto...@gentoo.org said: Lately I have stepeed into bug 216461 init systems in sys-apps as well as in sys-process and even app-admin and was about to moving sys-process/minit to sys/apps-minit , but stepped into bug 190982 move sys-process/{minit,runit} and app-admin/jinit to

[gentoo-dev] FYI: use-based deps on virtuals

2009-08-23 Thread Thilo Bangert
FYI -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Subject: monkeyd-0.9.2-r1.ebuild Date: Monday 20 April 2009 From: Michael Sterrett mr_bon...@gentoo.org To: bang...@gentoo.org use-based deps are undefined behavior on virtuals. So, in monkeyd-0.9.2-r1, please fix up the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

2009-08-02 Thread Thilo Bangert
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Petteri Rätybetelge...@gentoo.org wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: This seems like something that should be added to the ebuild/end quiz. Ebuild quiz: 19. What is the procedure for

Re: [gentoo-dev] A new glep: Ebuild format and metadata handling

2009-06-01 Thread Thilo Bangert
glep55: See GLEP55. To summarize: The eapi is put into the file name so that the package manager knows the EAPI (and thus how to handle this file format). While it simplifies the eapi discovery this comes at a high price as there is no reliable way to find and validate all ebuilds. i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-31 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org said: Ryan Hill wrote: I'm tired of playing, as I'm sure you are. So please, let's be quiet now, and let the big people talk. This is a public list designed to facilitate discussion of gentoo software development. Anybody with something constructive to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-15 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org said: AllenJB wrote: All that's going to happen is Gentoo will have many many buggy and out of date packages in the MAIN TREE. Exactly where they shouldn't be. You claim quality won't be sacrificed, but I simply can't see this without any attempt to solve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-cdr/cdrdao: ChangeLog cdrdao-1.2.2-r3.ebuild

2009-05-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
a list cleaned for obvious false positives leaves the following 44 affected packages. i have treated ebuilds which mention FEATURES in an ewarn or einfo as false positives although they probably should be fixed as well. most of these have do one of the following (or a variant thereof) hasq

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-cdr/cdrdao: ChangeLog cdrdao-1.2.2-r3.ebuild

2009-05-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org said: On 11-05-2009 11:26:46 +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: FEATURE-misuse.txt was generated by $ find -name '*.ebuild' | xargs grep -nH FEATURES FEATURES-misuse.txt and sifting through the false positives. Have you checked if eclasses use it as well? nope

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com said: On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:19:49 +0300 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: We surely need more developers. Otherwise we ll end up maintaining 100x500 each one. Just look at the numbers ( total packages/total ACTIVE developers ). So

Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring)

2009-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Olivier Huber oli.hu...@gmail.com said: Hi, 2009/5/4 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org [snip] For those, who can work with IRC and are interested in working with ebuilds, there is already an option: Join #gentoo-dev-help or even better #gentoo-sunrise and read the documentation from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-cdr/cdrdao: ChangeLog cdrdao-1.2.2-r3.ebuild

2009-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
There's a crapload of stuff in the tree doing things like this and worse with FEATURES. there is roughly 150 packages using FEATURES (including a number of false positives). see the list below... FEATURES variable is used in the tree http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174335 Welcome

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development (was: Re: Retiring)

2009-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org said: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org posted 200905101051.43926.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 10 May 2009 10:51:38 +0200: also, i feel voting for bugs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-cdr/cdrdao: ChangeLog cdrdao-1.2.2-r3.ebuild

2009-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org said: Thilo Bangert wrote: Welcome to Gentoo. nice attitude... i am sure that'll make the problem go away :-( What do you expect? He's an exherbo dev, only here to criticize Gentoo and gloat over its perceived failings. and what exactly are _you_

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-04 Thread Thilo Bangert
'guess'. Like how you have to guess what use flags are really being used for the package in question, because it doesn't tell you? i'd like to ask the developers of package managers to standardize this. having packagmanager --info be the same no matter who you like best is incredibly usefull.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-04 Thread Thilo Bangert
Santiago M. Mola coldw...@gentoo.org said: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi folks, i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 different ideas:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI roadmap

2009-03-23 Thread Thilo Bangert
Serkan Kaba ser...@gentoo.org said: Thilo Bangert yazmış: i doesnt make sense to introduce EAPI=2 into ebuilds, if we dont expect to have en EAPI=2 capable package manager stable within a reasonable timeframe. 2.1.6 is stable and supports EAPI2 thats pretty cool. thanks...

EAPI roadmap (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0)

2009-03-22 Thread Thilo Bangert
Peter Alfredsen loki_...@gentoo.org said: On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:41:58 +0100 Matti Bickel m...@gentoo.org wrote: A general question, that just popped into my head when i was reading this: if i touch a ebuild which has EAPI=0, should i bump it to EAPI=2? Only if you take the time to read

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
one thing that could perhaps speed up gentoo is specifying at what point or what steps are required before it is ok to step on others toes. we have the QAcanfix keyword, for bugs where QA threatens to just fix the bug if the maintainer doesn't react timely... but it appears to be the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org said: On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote: the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could realize more of its potential by better integrating

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
I think that summarizing IRC is insane. and there is no need for it either. as stated elsewhere much of what is going on on IRC is 'goofing off' - for which IRC is excellent. (heck - i should goof off more often :-) i dont mind the day-to-day work stuff going on on IRC exclusively - but

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org said: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 14:15:36 Thilo Bangert wrote: Bugs aren't a good way to keep in touch with developers, that's what irc is for. while i dont necessarily think, that bugzi is the best way to stay in contact with me, it surely

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Bugs aren't a good way to keep in touch with developers, that's what irc is for. while i dont necessarily think, that bugzi is the best way to stay in contact with me, it surely is a better way than IRC - on which i am close to never. the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-03-02 Thread Thilo Bangert
Thanks Petteri, 1) Status quo - does not allow changing inherit - bash version in global scope - global scope in general is quite locked down lets move on! 2) EAPI in file extension - Allows changing global scope and the internal format of the ebuild a) .ebuild-eapi -

Re: [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs is now banned

2009-02-17 Thread Thilo Bangert
Thomas Anderson gentoofa...@gentoo.org said: Hi Everyone, This is a note that in the council meeting on 02/12/2009 the function 'prepalldocs' is banned for use in ebuilds with EAPIs 0 1 and 2. If you want some functionality from this function, please propose a new function or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org said: On 05:10 Sun 14 Dec , Petteri Räty wrote: I added support for filing stable requests directly from my stable candidate RSS feed. For those that don't read planet Gentoo the feed can be found here: http://gentoo.petteriraty.eu/stable.rss

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2008-11-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:32:44PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: What if my herd email address is different from my bugzie address? Can I have both in herds.xml? What if my herd address *isn't* a bugzie account, will the world end? I don't know any

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-mail/qmail-vmailmgr

2008-10-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
# Thilo Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] (12 Oct 2008) # Masked for removal in 30 days (see bug #240371) # useless meta ebuild - never fully developed net-mail/qmail-vmailmgr signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-05 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:44:20 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either we need special cases to declare that it no longer has a homepage, or we need to allow the empty HOMEPAGE. HOMEPAGE=( )

Re: [gentoo-dev] Usages of CVS $Header$ keyword in ebuilds - use cases wanted

2008-10-01 Thread Thilo Bangert
Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi folks, I'm doing some research on our usages of the $Header$ keyword in our main CVS repo. The primary use-case that has been publicly stated before was for users to be able to identify to developers what version of a given ebuild they were

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Request for feedback on GNU Patch change

2008-09-18 Thread Thilo Bangert
C. Bergström [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Fabian Groffen wrote: On 17-09-2008 10:41:07 +0200, C. Bergström wrote: By the way, I'm against this stuff. I rather see a PATH solution involved. Portage already has a DEFAULT_PATH, and if someone refuses to install patch, one could always use a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Shall we create a ballot for PROPERTIES value definition proposals?

2008-08-07 Thread Thilo Bangert
Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hello everyone, Given the vast number of possible choices to consider when defining new PROPERTIES values [1], perhaps we should create a ballot and hold a vote on definitions that people have submitted. I suppose that voters would be able to vote yes or no

OT: Precedence: bulk (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use auto-responders on the lists.)

2008-08-06 Thread Thilo Bangert
Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Please do NOT use out-of-office, vacation or any other auto-responders on the lists. It's bad list etiquette. decent vacation mail software ignores mail marked with a 'Precedence: bulk' header, as mailing list mail usually is (including mails sent by

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-05-31 Thread Thilo Bangert
net-misc/ntp This is rather basic, isn't it ? It keeps your clock accurate. Is there any alternative ? net-misc/openntpd - by the OpenBSD folks... http://openntpd.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNTPD regards Thilo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

OT: offensive (Re: [gentoo-dev] explicit -r0 in ebuild filename)

2008-03-31 Thread Thilo Bangert
Please think things through before asking to have pkgcore's bugs 'fixed' via specification next time... maybe my english language skills or social interaction qualities are failing me, but i find the above sentence highly offensive. am i too thin skinned for gentoo-dev? signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
end up copying the ebuild from the tree into our overlay and fix. great! where is it? does it have a webvc or trac interface? thanks Thilo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] One request for the next SoC: non already-devs students

2008-03-02 Thread Thilo Bangert
But I sincerely think the main goal of Summer of Code is to allow new people to enter the scene of Free Software, to understand how Free Software projects work and so on. it's not just what you sincerely think! I most certainly think, you have a valid point. from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Foundation Elections - Last Call for voting

2008-02-27 Thread Thilo Bangert
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi. As we've stated before and is listed on the election page[1], the voting period lasts from 00:00.00 UTC February 14th (Thursday) to 23:59.59 UTC February 28th (Thursday). Thus, there's little less than 48 hours to cast your vote. At the

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check - 3rd edition

2008-02-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 10:01:16PM +0100, Thilo Bangert wrote: Noteworthy errors === herd without email: comm-fax Proxy maintainer without gentoo association 15 Two specific feature requests: 1. Check that every

[gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check - 3rd edition

2008-02-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
Welcome to the third edition of the irregular metadata.xml check. Noteworthy errors === herd without email: comm-fax herd without email: dev-tools herd without email: haskell herd without email: common-lisp herd without email: secure-tunneling herd without email:

Re: [gentoo-dev] The return of the old fart: Mark Loeser (halcy0n)

2007-12-14 Thread Thilo Bangert
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE flags documentation

2007-12-09 Thread Thilo Bangert
Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:10:58 +0100 Thilo Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the idea is really great [...] now this needs to be [...] made mandatory for all ebuilds. Uh, what? Why? If the idea is that great, then why does it need

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-29 Thread Thilo Bangert
On the subject of Squid, it would be extremely useful if it could ignore some headers and respect others in figuring out if the page is already in the cache, without stripping the headers from the request (it is doable with Apache's mod_cache), so that two requests with only a slightly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ranged licenses

2007-11-28 Thread Thilo Bangert
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:06:46 +0100 Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that would need to be decided: LICENSE=GPL-2 Would that require an = prefix? To simplify things, we could say that *only* the postfix [] form

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE flags documentation

2007-11-24 Thread Thilo Bangert
While planet is a good medium to share ideas and get contributors, seems to me like we need a more official way to discuss this kind of 'global' ideas before make them real. Or at least drop a note on -dev-announce explaining the new feature and telling devs and users this is now officially

Re: [gentoo-dev] stripping out the DO NOT REPLY from bugzie emails

2007-09-29 Thread Thilo Bangert
Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It seems that not everybody loves the new DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL header at the top of every bugzie email as much as robbat2 does. 1. if everybody hates it (full ack btw), why not remove it globally? 2. why doesn't bugzi receive mail (anymore?)? kind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Trivial commit reviews

2007-09-23 Thread Thilo Bangert
i am all for the 'trivial' review. as i am not on the commit list, however, i can't tell whether this acutally helps. do people fix the stuff that is pointed out to them? also, perhaps the more common ones should additionally be converted to repoman tests, if that is feasable. kind regards

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do

OT: gentoo-kindergarten (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML)

2007-06-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
I want a gentoo-kindergarten list, where useless discussions like this (sub)thread can be directed to. kids, grow up! pgpJFDJFTgIVf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v2] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

2007-06-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Step 2 - Metadata.xml contains only a herd -- 1. Take the herd element, and look up the herd in herds.xml to convert to an email address. This email address must be a valid bugzilla account. 2. This email is treated as an implicit maintainer

[gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hi all, welcome to the second issue of the irregular metadata.xml check. Did you know that only 16% of all packages in the tree do not belong to any herd (ie. herdno-herd/herd). Nevertheless, as no-herd is not a nice place to be, perhaps your herd can adopt a package or two. If you get really

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-05-27 Thread Thilo Bangert
Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:49:43PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: Also, many ebuilds put the herds email address as an additional maintainer. This is simply redundant and unless complaints are raised, all herd maintainer tags will be removed

[gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-05-23 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hi all, welcome to the IMC - irregular metdata.xml check, issue 1. As can be seen from the statistcis below, the herd tags have been fixed. Thanks to those who have helped with the cleanup. Whats next? == The current policy in the devmanual demands a maintainer tag - nevertheless half

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with same name was - Conversion of Emacs virtual packages

2007-05-16 Thread Thilo Bangert
It isn't different. That's the problem. If you have two packages with the same name, you have the same problem. On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename. app-vim/ant and app-vim/sudo IMHO app-vim/ant should really be app-vim/vim-ant or something other than just ant. or

Re: [gentoo-dev] DWS for 2007-05-07 - 2007-05-13

2007-05-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
Markus Ullmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [usefull DWS snipped] you rock! pgpFgJgMmryKA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing herd tag in metadata.xml

2007-05-12 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hi again, Thilo Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The metadata cleanup continues... A list of 427 packages found at http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/herd-metadata-check.log do not have the required herd tag in their metadata.xml[1]. some of these have herd tags afterall - albeit empty

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing metadata.xml

2007-05-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
the packages in the attached list have no metadata.xml. all fixed. however with the following metadata.xml: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE pkgmetadata SYSTEM http://www.gentoo.org/dtd/metadata.dtd; pkgmetadata herdno-herd/herd /pkgmetadata as no maintainer implies maintainer-needed

Re: [gentoo-dev] invalid herd in metadata.xml

2007-05-11 Thread Thilo Bangert
Can you re-run this with a fully up to date tree? sure app-emulation/hercules invalid herd: herds390/herd sys-apps/cpint invalid herd: herds390/herd sys-apps/lkcdutils invalid herd: herds390/herd sys-apps/s390-oco

[gentoo-dev] invalid herd in metadata.xml

2007-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hi everybody, the following list of packages uses a invalid herd tag in its metadata.xml. Invalid in the sense of 'could-not-be-found-in-herds.xml' Most of them appear to be simple mis-spellings or minor misunderstandings. Others may lack an entry in herds.xml (s390?). AFAICT most packages

[gentoo-dev] missing metadata.xml

2007-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Hi everybody, the packages in the attached list have no metadata.xml. The following basic metadata.xml will be added to each package in about 24 hours. Speak up to stop the insanity. Thanks. kind regards Thilo ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE pkgmetadata SYSTEM

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] missing herd tag in metadata.xml

2007-05-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
The metadata cleanup continues... A list of 427 packages found at http://dev.gentoo.org/~bangert/herd-metadata-check.log do not have the required herd tag in their metadata.xml[1]. Is it reasonable to simply add the herdno-herd/herd or should perhaps the policy be relaxed, such

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