Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-06 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 06/09/2009 02:34, Thomas Anderson a écrit : Ciaran's really not making homework up for gentoo. Why, remi stated himself that we have homework to do(and we sometimes don't do that homework) I did, but I also stated upstream might have some homework to do themselves. Here's a list of things

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:06:09 -0700 as excerpted: That seems like a reasonable solution. So, an ebuild can do something like LICENSE=@GPL-2+ and that will expand to whatever the definition of the GPL-2+ license group happens to be. When a new version of GPL license comes out,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 04 of September 2009 22:08:02 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:04:46 +0200 Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org wrote: Having tools to manipulate those variables is very misleading since users will (rightfully) assume that we've done our homework and that upstream did too.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:03:25 +0200 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@poczta.fm wrote: Why not use EAPI 4 to make sure people have done that homework then? Because it won't make *upstream* do their homework. If upstream won't tell you the licence under which something is distributed, how does Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:03:25PM +0200, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Friday 04 of September 2009 22:08:02 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:04:46 +0200 R?mi Cardona r...@gentoo.org wrote: Having tools to manipulate those variables is very misleading since users will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/09/2009 23:27, Mounir Lamouri a écrit : But the content of the license is the same. That only means you can use a newer one. I mean we do not need a new license file for that. It's up to upstream to write somewhere if it's GPL-2 or GPL-2+, am I right ? Yes, that's for upstream to figure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-04 Thread David Leverton
On Friday 04 September 2009 16:01:41 Rémi Cardona wrote: For instance, I'm still working on migrating all the X11 packages to the MIT license (mainly for cleaning purposes), but in fact, each and every package should have its own license file (like today) because the MIT license requires that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 04/09/2009 20:52, David Leverton a écrit : Is that really a problem? To me, it's not. :) I admit to not being around for the original design decisions, but I would assume that the purpose of having LICENSE in ebuilds is to tell users what licence the package is under (whether or not it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:04:46 +0200 Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org wrote: Having tools to manipulate those variables is very misleading since users will (rightfully) assume that we've done our homework and that upstream did too. Why not use EAPI 4 to make sure people have done that homework

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-03 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Duncan wrote: Sebastian Pipping posted on Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:21:49 +0200 as excerpted: However I do notice that GPL-2+ could make things easier. Why not introduce a license group for it like @GPL-2+ or so, instead? That would be transparent and use existing means. I've always

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-03 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/09/2009 23:10, Mounir Lamouri a écrit : Duncan wrote: Sebastian Pipping posted on Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:21:49 +0200 as excerpted: However I do notice that GPL-2+ could make things easier. Why not introduce a license group for it like @GPL-2+ or so, instead? That would be transparent and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-03 Thread Mounir Lamouri
Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 03/09/2009 23:10, Mounir Lamouri a écrit : Duncan wrote: Sebastian Pipping posted on Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:21:49 +0200 as excerpted: However I do notice that GPL-2+ could make things easier. Why not introduce a license group for it like @GPL-2+ or so, instead? That

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-03 Thread Duncan
Mounir Lamouri posted on Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:27:34 +0200 as excerpted: Rémi Cardona wrote: Mounir Lamouri a écrit : Duncan wrote: Sebastian Pipping posted: However I do notice that GPL-2+ could make things easier. Why not introduce a license group for it like @GPL-2+ I've always thought

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-01 Thread Duncan
Sebastian Pipping posted on Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:21:49 +0200 as excerpted: However I do notice that GPL-2+ could make things easier. Why not introduce a license group for it like @GPL-2+ or so, instead? That would be transparent and use existing means. I've always thought Gentoo needed plus