Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 4:19 PM Michał Górny wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 23:03 +0300, Joonas Niilola wrote: > > On 8/6/20 10:58 PM, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > > > Well, the purpose of this is to educate and avoid problems for > > > headless/server users. But if so many devs seem to care

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 23:03 +0300, Joonas Niilola wrote: > On 8/6/20 10:58 PM, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > > Well, the purpose of this is to educate and avoid problems for > > headless/server users. But if so many devs seem to care about pushing > > maybe unrelated information and believe that

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2020-08-06 21:50, Jaco Kroon wrote: > Can you detect in the runscript that this will trigger and issue a cold > reboot instead if this would trigger? > > Having never used kexec before ... I may well be missing the point.  But > I'd rather have the system issue a cold reboot if kexec (which

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Georgy Yakovlev
On 8/5/20 5:02 AM, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > Hi, > > please review the news item below: > Not all arches support --reuse-cmdline btw. It may be only x86 which supports it. This looks like a candidate wiki page or a word of warning in a handbook, not a news item.

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Joonas Niilola
On 8/6/20 10:58 PM, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > Well, the purpose of this is to educate and avoid problems for > headless/server users. But if so many devs seem to care about pushing > maybe unrelated information and believe that avoiding that has much more > value than avoid a problem like an

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2020-08-06 19:20, Aaron Bauman wrote: > Wait, changes were made to genkernel to switch from mdev to (e)udev > which causes breakage, but it is *not* an issue with genkernel? Exactly. This failure can happen with genkernel version created 15 years ago, with new genkernel-4.1 which switched

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Jaco Kroon
Hi, On 2020/08/06 21:45, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > On 2020-08-06 20:56, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Has anything even changed with kexec? Or is this an issue that has >> been an issue for many years in kexec, that will suddenly become an >> issue in genkernel? In that case it is news from a

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2020-08-06 20:56, Rich Freeman wrote: > Has anything even changed with kexec? Or is this an issue that has > been an issue for many years in kexec, that will suddenly become an > issue in genkernel? In that case it is news from a genkernel > perspective, and something anybody with a

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 1:41 PM Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:59 AM Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > > > > On 2020-08-06 17:44, Michał Górny wrote: > > > I'm not sure if you've noticed but there are people actively working > > > towards removing stale news items and trying not to

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:59 AM Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > > On 2020-08-06 17:44, Michał Górny wrote: > > I'm not sure if you've noticed but there are people actively working > > towards removing stale news items and trying not to dump everything > > on once on a user freshly installing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 05:59:14PM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > On 2020-08-06 17:44, Michał Górny wrote: > > I'm not sure if you've noticed but there are people actively working > > towards removing stale news items and trying not to dump everything > > on once on a user freshly installing

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2020-08-06 17:44, Michał Górny wrote: > I'm not sure if you've noticed but there are people actively working > towards removing stale news items and trying not to dump everything > on once on a user freshly installing the system. Don't you consider > this a worthwhile goal? I don't see how

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 17:14 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > On 2020-08-06 14:22, Michał Górny wrote: > > > - I am not 100% happy with the title but the 50 char limit > > > doesn't allow any more details. > > > > Yes, the title doesn't say a thing why would anyone want to read this > > news

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2020-08-06 14:22, Michał Górny wrote: >> - I am not 100% happy with the title but the 50 char limit >> doesn't allow any more details. > > Yes, the title doesn't say a thing why would anyone want to read this > news item or not. Maybe > Be aware of possible reboot problems instead? >> -

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-06 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 14:02 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > Hi, > > please review the news item below: > > - I am not 100% happy with the title but the 50 char limit > doesn't allow any more details. Yes, the title doesn't say a thing why would anyone want to read this news item or not. >

[gentoo-dev] News item: Multiple root kernel command-line arguments

2020-08-05 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
Hi, please review the news item below: - I am not 100% happy with the title but the 50 char limit doesn't allow any more details. - No Display-If condition because it is neither a genkernel nor kexec-tools issue. We maybe even have additional packages which are appending to kernel