Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2013-01-07 Thread Marijn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-12-12 13:32, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 December 2012 17:36, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:21:57 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Your tone is not appropriate for discussion.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still contributing to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-12-2012 a las 21:21 -0600, Doug Goldstein escribió: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still contributing to the distro in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-12-2012 a las 21:21 -0600, Doug Goldstein escribió: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still contributing to the distro in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-12-2012 a las 21:30 -0800, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. escribió: On 12/20/12 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: 3. I think what's important is to keep packages maintained. I consider maintainership to be a duty, not a privilege. If someone is listed in metadata.xml, but is not really maintaining the package, that creates a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 21:30 -0800, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 12/20/12 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Markos Chandras
On 21 December 2012 03:21, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still contributing to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Markos Chandras
On 21 December 2012 08:49, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 21:30 -0800, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 12/20/12 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:21:57 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Your tone is not appropriate for discussion. If you don't like the existing policy, bring it to the list with a better attitude so we can try and discuss it. But given that you want to pick a fight with your email, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 21 December 2012 17:36, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:21:57 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Your tone is not appropriate for discussion. If you don't like the existing policy, bring it to the list with a better attitude so we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 21 December 2012 18:02, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: On 21 December 2012 17:36, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:21:57 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Your tone is not appropriate for discussion. If you don't like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: On 21 December 2012 17:36, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:21:57 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Your tone is not appropriate for discussion. If you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 10:46 +, Markos Chandras wrote: On 21 December 2012 08:49, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 21:30 -0800, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I have several suggestions how we can improve things: 1. 3 months is too short period anyway. 2. Think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Peter Stuge
Markos, Markos Chandras wrote: I totally disagree with the way Doug started this thread. That's of course completely fair, but try to look beyond that, and let's focus on how we can make things better for everyone. Calling us brain dead ? Please read email even more carefully, especially

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-21 Thread Markos Chandras
On 21 December 2012 22:50, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Markos, [...] Maybe you can understand that there is a disconnect between what people who have no experience from what you do and what you actually do? That was certainly the case for me, and maybe also for Doug. The documentation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still contributing to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-20 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: I think the bar for keeping access should be kept low - they shouldn't be forced to go find some trivial change to make just to get their name in the logs. When I first started looking into becoming a Gentoo developer I got a very strong and very clear impression that this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-20 Thread Peter Stuge
Peter Stuge wrote: I think the bar for keeping access should be kept low - they shouldn't be forced to go find some trivial change to make just to get their name in the logs. When I first started looking into becoming a Gentoo developer I got a very strong and very clear impression that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-20 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 12/20/12 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still contributing to the distro in many ways other