On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:58:46PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote:
Xmms will be removed soon... Lot's of users still use xmms mostly
because it has many plugins that others don't. Xmms is still stable but
the upstream is dead so it won't take our patchset. In the end of this
year i would like to
On Monday 05 June 2006 15:58, Luis Medinas wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 21:22 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:03:57PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. They
are outdated and no longer needed on current
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 01:30 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:58:46PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote:
Xmms will be removed soon... Lot's of users still use xmms mostly
because it has many plugins that others don't. Xmms is still stable but
the upstream is dead so it won't
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 02:13, Harald van Dijk wrote:
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:48:37AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
you dont use alsa-driver with 2.6 kernels and the 2006.1 profiles are 2.6
based
You can use alsa-driver with 2.6 kernels.
ok, but imho that's enough of a use case to warrant
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:48:37AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:31, Harald van Dijk wrote:
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer
On Monday 05 June 2006 23:13, Harald van Dijk wrote:
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:48:37AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:31, Harald van Dijk wrote:
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:23:58 -0400,
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but
work only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it
would definitely be blocked by the games team. Probably half of the
packages
Mike Frysinger wrote:
-fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc?
fortran 4 eva
-mike
Mike,
Are you flashing fortran gang signs at us?
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On Tuesday 06 June 2006 04:45, Andrew Muraco wrote:
Sorry for the offtopic of this, but what would a user set as the
useflags to have GTK-2 used by default, and GTK-1 for apps that only
support it? (but not build GTK-2-capable apps with GTK-1)
Just the gtk use flag.
Carsten
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 06:07, Mike Frysinger wrote:
mikmod is the only one i'd keep ... people generally want mikmod whether or
not they know it ;)
I'd say 99,9% don't want mikmod. Arguments please, not vague assertions. :)
Carsten
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On Tuesday 06 June 2006 11:17, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
I'd say 99,9% don't want mikmod. Arguments please, not vague assertions. :)
SDL based games requires mikmod quite often. I suppose Mike knows what he's
saying.
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Gentoo/Alt
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 08:34, John Myers wrote:
I use alsa-driver with 2.6 kernels. I forget exactly why (this was almost
two years ago), but I actually switched _away_ from the in-kernel-tree
drivers to alsa-driver for some particular reason.
There are a few issues with in-kernel driver when
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 11:25, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
SDL based games requires mikmod quite often. I suppose Mike knows what he's
saying.
It's a difference to know that, compared to share ones thoughts, which Mike
missed to do.
Carsten
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On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 00:07 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but work
only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it would
definitely be blocked by the games team. Probably half of the packages
that I maintain
On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 08:40 +0200, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:23:58 -0400,
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but
work only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it
Am Montag, 5. Juni 2006 18:03 schrieb Stefan Schweizer:
today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal.
keywords?
They are outdated and no longer needed on current systems:
-fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in
gcc?
Remove this and you'll break
On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 01:05 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote:
Am Montag, 5. Juni 2006 18:03 schrieb Stefan Schweizer:
today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal.
keywords?
They are outdated and no longer needed on current systems:
-fortran - Do we really need this
Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Mon Jun 05 2006, 11:03:57AM CDT]
-fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc?
Although outdated, there are still a lot of applications that use it.
More importantly, there are a lot of well-tested numerical libraries
that exist in fortran that
Stefan Schweizer wrote:
-fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc?
I am not on the toolchain team, but I _think_ the reason this is on by
default is because fortran is considered part of a standard gcc
installation (by upstream, etc).
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On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 06:03:57PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Hi,
today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. They are
outdated and no longer needed on current systems:
-imlib - imlib depends on gtk-1, which imo should not be installed in a
default gentoo
On Monday 05 June 2006 18:03, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
I would like to make the changes in a new 2006.1 profile, how do I go about
that? I think the current profiles should not be touched, since some users
may still be using the flags.
Yes, 2006.1.
Any comments/objections - any outdated
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 06:59:22PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
Any comments/objections - any outdated useflags I forgot?
Have a look at /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults
for the list of current default use flags.
I think gtk2 should be finally removed¹ from all
Monday, 5. June 2006 18:03, Stefan Schweizer Ви написали:
-fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc?
Which one, Fortran-99 or Fortran-2006? ;)
(Well, Ok, gfortran in gcc does not do 2006 yet, but still..)
On the usage side: if you do that (i.e. remove it) you will
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
I would like to make the changes in a new 2006.1 profile, how do I go about
that? I think the current profiles should not be touched, since some users
may still be using the flags.
Considering most architectures already have a 2006.1
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:03:57PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. They are
outdated and no longer needed on current systems:
What do you want to remove, the use flags themselves or just turn them
off in the profiles?
-xmms -
On Monday 05 June 2006 20:08, Harald van Dijk wrote:
No, the decision with the gtk/gtk2 USE flag mess was to have package
maintainers decide for each ebuild whether to support only gtk1 or only
gtk2, but not have support for both in a single ebuild.
I know about the decision of the Gnome team,
On Monday 05 June 2006 20:52, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Have a look at
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults for the list
of current default use flags.
I think it's a bad idea to have win32codecs in make.defaults. There's quite a
number of codecs in the package and I'm
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 21:22 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:03:57PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. They are
outdated and no longer needed on current systems:
What do you want to remove, the use flags
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:58:46PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote:
xmms is still in the tree? People (ok, at least me ;-) ) still use it?
I don't mind if it has to go and there are alternatives, but why would
you just want to remove its use flag and not the package itself?
If it needs to go,
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 21:57 +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
On Monday 05 June 2006 20:52, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Have a look at
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults for the list
of current default use flags.
I think it's a bad idea to have win32codecs in
On Monday 05 June 2006 23:25, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Well, it doesn't affect stages, and GRP stuff is done w/ USE=bindist, so
again, this is a non-issue.
Well, I didn't mean our binary releases, but being held liable for making
property of others available by default, without the permission
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
-foomaticdb - foomaticdb is only used for development foomatic xml files.
SInce most of our users do not develop printer drivers I suggest
making ppds a default use flag instead.
Should we have ppds in the 2006.1 profile, or
Carsten Lohrke wrote:
On Monday 05 June 2006 20:08, Harald van Dijk wrote:
No, the decision with the gtk/gtk2 USE flag mess was to have package
maintainers decide for each ebuild whether to support only gtk1 or only
gtk2, but not have support for both in a single ebuild.
I know about
On Monday 05 June 2006 12:16, Patrick McLean wrote:
Stefan Schweizer wrote:
-fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc?
I am not on the toolchain team, but I _think_ the reason this is on by
default is because fortran is considered part of a standard gcc
On Monday 05 June 2006 12:03, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
-apm
-imlib
-motif
kill em !
-fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc?
fortran 4 eva
-mike
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On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
-oss - oss is a legacy audio interface that has been superseeded by alsa
in most current installs, a default use flag is no longer needed
There are *many* applications in the
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
-oss - oss is a legacy audio interface that has been superseeded by alsa
in most current installs, a default use
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:31, Harald van Dijk wrote:
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
-oss - oss is a legacy audio interface that has been
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