Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-05 Thread Jan Kundrát
Stephen P. Becker wrote: I will say that this is still a better situation than the closed drivers, which instantly hard lock my computer the first time I exit X after the initial startup. Perhaps this might help you -- http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_fglrx#Hardlock_on_X_logout

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Becker
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:26:50 +0200 Jan Kundrát [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen P. Becker wrote: I will say that this is still a better situation than the closed drivers, which instantly hard lock my computer the first time I exit X after the initial startup. Perhaps this might help you

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:35 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: FYI, the patches in bug #183480 [1] allow one to use the most current ati-drivers with a 2.6.22 kernel. As I am now while I am composing this message. Having applied said patches and bumped ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 00:14 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 02 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:05 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sounds good to me ... so to tie back to the source of the thread, crappy closed source vendor drivers are not a valid

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 00:14 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds for preventing

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:35 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Update your knowledge, the normal radeon driver works nice for both. =) I will I was following radeon developmen for a while. But last I looked a few months ago, they were still a ways off from having DRI fully supported with my

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds for preventing stabilization of a kernel ebuild so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 03 August 2007, Daniel Drake wrote: All that aside, my advice for developers considering maintaining kernel code in portage outside of the kernel still remains as don't do it. Your package grows bugs overnight. It's a continual challenge trying to keep up, and it's a headache for me

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-03 Thread Daniel Drake
Donnie Berkholz wrote: so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel maintainer happens to be at the time) says hey i plan on stabilizing Linux x.y.z and someone goes wait, you cant until we get closed source driver package foo working, the reply is of course blow it out your arse^H^H^H^Htalk

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 03 August 2007, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds for preventing stabilization of a

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-03 Thread Gustavo Zacarias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel maintainer happens to be at the time) says hey i plan on stabilizing Linux x.y.z and someone goes wait, you cant until we get closed source driver package foo working, the reply

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread federico ferri
William L. Thomson Jr. ha scritto: This is for the very short term. I don't want to maintain a driver for hardware I don't own and never intend on purchasing. Well seems most AMD machines are likely to ship with ATI chipsets these days. For sure most lappies :) Interesting side note.

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:09 +0200, federico ferri wrote: William L. Thomson Jr. ha scritto: This is for the very short term. I don't want to maintain a driver for hardware I don't own and never intend on purchasing. Well seems most AMD machines are likely to ship with ATI

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 01 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:54 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: This is for the very short term. I don't want to maintain a driver for hardware I don't own and never intend on purchasing. Well seems most AMD machines are likely to

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:31:09 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the driver blows dead goats and the vendor isnt willing to help and no Gentoo dev wants to touch it, what other solution is there ? There's an open-source driver for the r5xx stuff called the avivo driver [1]. It's

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 August 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the driver blows dead goats and the vendor isnt willing to help and no Gentoo dev wants to touch it, what other solution is there ? There's an open-source driver for the r5xx stuff called the avivo

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 16:55 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:31:09 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the driver blows dead goats and the vendor isnt willing to help and no Gentoo dev wants to touch it, what other solution is there ? There's an open-source

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:05 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sounds good to me ... so to tie back to the source of the thread, crappy closed source vendor drivers are not a valid reason to hold up stabilization of a kernel Who ever said they were crappy? Maybe the documentation on usage is

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 16:55 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:31:09 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the driver blows dead goats and the vendor isnt willing to help and no Gentoo dev wants to touch it, what other solution is

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: FYI, the patches in bug #183480 [1] allow one to use the most current ati-drivers with a 2.6.22 kernel. As I am now while I am composing this message. Having applied said patches and bumped ebuild locally. Just needs to happen in tree :) 01 Aug 2007; Jeff

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:05 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sounds good to me ... so to tie back to the source of the thread, crappy closed source vendor drivers are not a valid reason to hold up stabilization of a kernel Who ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mike Frysinger wrote: my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds for preventing stabilization of a kernel ebuild so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel maintainer happens

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:36 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: Daniel Drake wrote: William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: I haven't been able to get ati-drivers to compile against a 2.6.22 kernel. Seems to be for similar reasons as http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181982 error:

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Doug Goldstein wrote: There are no maintainers of ati-drivers. So you're not prodding anyone. Luca? Did you stop maintaining it? Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:54 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: If this is holding us back, I'll do the commits provided I can find people to help me with testing. I am willing to help. I got a 2.6.22 kernel I want to boot to test out the new mac80211 stuff vs the older softmac. The ati-driver

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 07:35:16PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: On Thursday I plan to request that the x86 and amd64 arch teams mark the latest gentoo-sources-2.6.22 revision stable. We have no reported regressions for this kernel release. Is speakup finally dropped from the gentoo tree in

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
Greg KH wrote: Is speakup finally dropped from the gentoo tree in this release? Yes Was there a reason for this? It no longer compiles, as the legacy way of accessing serial ports disappeared, serial is now a platform device. I can't see an easy fix. It may return in future, in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread Homer Parker
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:54 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: No, seriously. If this is holding us back, I'll do the commits provided I can find people to help me with testing. This is for the very short term. I don't want to maintain a driver for hardware I don't own and never intend on

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 06:35:04PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: Greg KH wrote: Is speakup finally dropped from the gentoo tree in this release? Yes Was there a reason for this? It no longer compiles, as the legacy way of accessing serial ports disappeared, serial is now a platform

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
Greg KH wrote: Ok, thanks for pointing me at this. I've already started discussing this with a few of the users on that list. I tried a number of years to get this code into shape enough to get into the main kernel tree. Looks like I'll try this again. Let me know if anything comes of it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-07-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 19:35 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: On Thursday I plan to request that the x86 and amd64 arch teams mark the latest gentoo-sources-2.6.22 revision stable. We have no reported regressions for this kernel release. I haven't been able to get ati-drivers to compile against a