Re: [gentoo-dev] About XFCE, renames, eclass, etc

2009-09-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
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Thanks for the message, Jeremy; it's informative and appreciated!

 - xfce-config.xml: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xfce-config.xml Josh
 (nightmorph) updated this, basically an after thought by us so thanks Josh!
 
 - xfce4-meta : former name xfce-base/xfce4. Renamed to reflect reality.
 This meta package is the *core* of XFCE, it *only* has in it what is
 required to run. Thus, returning XFCE to a minimalistic status in Gentoo
 Linux. This is desired because most XFCE users are looking for a
 lightweight WM, not a heavy DE. So, users will have to add a terminal,
 orage, thunar, etc to the world file instead of relying on a meta package.

I made sure to mention this in the Xfce guide after finding all this out
on my own . . . the hard way. :) Take a look at emerge -p --depclean
output and go over the world file to see what's up on your system, using
emerge --noreplace foo to add stuff back in. And be sure to re-read the
Xfce guide if you're wondering which packages should prolly be kept.
(http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xfce-config.xml)



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Re: [gentoo-dev] About XFCE, renames, eclass, etc

2009-09-03 Thread Eray Aslan
On 03.09.2009 05:38, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 - xfce4-meta : former name xfce-base/xfce4. Renamed to reflect reality.
 This meta package is the *core* of XFCE, it *only* has in it what is
 required to run. Thus, returning XFCE to a minimalistic status in Gentoo
 Linux. This is desired because most XFCE users are looking for a
 lightweight WM, not a heavy DE. So, users will have to add a terminal,
 orage, thunar, etc to the world file instead of relying on a meta package.

Thanks a lot for the update and for the awesome work.  One note for the
future:

An ewarn would have been nice for the above point.  emerge --depclean
output was a surprise (wanted to unmerge terminal etc) and surprise is
bad.  We don't want any surprises.

Thanks again.
-- 
Eray



Re: [gentoo-dev] About XFCE, renames, eclass, etc

2009-09-03 Thread Jeremy Olexa

Eray Aslan wrote:

On 03.09.2009 05:38, Jeremy Olexa wrote:

- xfce4-meta : former name xfce-base/xfce4. Renamed to reflect reality.
This meta package is the *core* of XFCE, it *only* has in it what is
required to run. Thus, returning XFCE to a minimalistic status in Gentoo
Linux. This is desired because most XFCE users are looking for a
lightweight WM, not a heavy DE. So, users will have to add a terminal,
orage, thunar, etc to the world file instead of relying on a meta package.


Thanks a lot for the update and for the awesome work.  One note for the
future:

An ewarn would have been nice for the above point.  emerge --depclean
output was a surprise (wanted to unmerge terminal etc) and surprise is
bad.  We don't want any surprises.

Thanks again.


I just added this:

 * xfce4-meta will just provide a minimal set of packages. You may also
 * want to emerge x11-terms/terminal, app-editors/mousepad,
 * app-office/orage, etc or similar packages.
 * More info can be found at:
 * http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xfce-config.xml

Hope that helps.
-Jeremy