Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
All,
 
The openrc stable candidate is now openrc-0.8.2-r1.

The changes between it and the previous stable candidates are small, so
the news item date and stable request date are still 2011/05/01 and 2011/05/08
respectively.

The more important part of this test is that we need some users to
migrate from baselayout-1 to openrc-0.8.2-r1 and be sure that is
successful.

As usual, let me know if there are any issues.

William



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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-29 Thread Dale

William Hubbs wrote:

All,

The openrc stable candidate is now openrc-0.8.2-r1.

The changes between it and the previous stable candidates are small, so
the news item date and stable request date are still 2011/05/01 and 2011/05/08
respectively.

The more important part of this test is that we need some users to
migrate from baselayout-1 to openrc-0.8.2-r1 and be sure that is
successful.

As usual, let me know if there are any issues.

William

   


I'm willing to test.  Is it as simple the news item says?  If there is a 
problem, can I simply go back to baselayout 1?


I'm amd64 by the way.  I also have a older x86 machine if that would 
help any.


Let me know.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:22, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
 The more important part of this test is that we need some users to
 migrate from baselayout-1 to openrc-0.8.2-r1 and be sure that is
 successful.

I migrated a mostly-stable (so baselayout-1) amd64 server to
baselayout-2.0.2 with openrc-0.8.2-r1 (both stabilized through
packages.keywords), used etc-update and followed through the upgrade
guide. The reboot went without a hitch (etc-update was also quite
painless). Thanks for working on this, looking forward to getting this
everywhere!

Cheers,

Dirkjan



Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-18 Thread Marijn
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On 04/16/11 18:05, William Hubbs wrote:
 ll,
 
 there was a regression in 0.8.1, so 0.8.2 is now the stable candidate.
 
 I propose thatsince the differences between 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 are very
 small, we should keep the news item date and stabilization date from my
 original announcement.
 
 - news item release on 5/1
 - stabilization on 5/8.

Please, to avoid confusion, use month names instead of numbers or
include the year so people don't have to deduce the ordering.

Marijn
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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-18 Thread Philip Webb
110418 Marijn wrote:
 On 04/16/11 18:05, William Hubbs wrote:
 - news item release on 5/1
 - stabilization on 5/8.
 Please, to avoid confusion, use month names instead of numbers
 or include the year so people don't have to deduce the ordering.

Seconded.  In fact,
has Gentoo not adopted the international standard date format ?
It is  -mm-dd   sb used for all docs  discussions.  So here it wb

  news item release 2011-05-01
  stabilization 2011-05-08

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-16 Thread William Hubbs
ll,

there was a regression in 0.8.1, so 0.8.2 is now the stable candidate.

I propose thatsince the differences between 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 are very
small, we should keep the news item date and stabilization date from my
original announcement.

- news item release on 5/1
- stabilization on 5/8.

William



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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Alex Alexander
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:56:22AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
 All,
 
 at long last, we have an openrc stable candidate.
 
 This means we need more testers.
 
 We need some people who are still using baselayout-1 to migrate to
 baselayout-2 and openrc to make sure that still is successful. Also, we
 need developers to upgrade to openrc-0.8.1 and let us know if there are
 issues.
 
 Here is my plan, if there are no major issues.
 
 On 5/1, I will commit a news item which I will post later today for
 review. It was originally written by fauli, but I have reworded it
 slightly.
 
 Assuming that things go well, I will be pushing for stabilization of
 baselayout-2 and openrc on 5/8.
 
 This plan will also be posted on
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295613 very shortly.
 
 If there are any issues with this, let me know.
 
 William

Excellent news, thank you for seeing this through.

I'm happy to report that openrc has been working pretty well for me :)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 12/04/2011 16:56, William Hubbs a écrit :
 All,
 
 at long last, we have an openrc stable candidate.

Thanks to all of you who worked on this over the years, your efforts are
_really_ appreciated.

 This means we need more testers.

Openrc being so central to Gentoo, may I suggest a bigger campaign, on
planet gnome and other outlets?

Cheers,

Rémi



Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Marijn
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On 04/13/11 08:52, Rémi Cardona wrote:
 Le 12/04/2011 16:56, William Hubbs a écrit :
 All,

 at long last, we have an openrc stable candidate.
 
 Thanks to all of you who worked on this over the years, your efforts are
 _really_ appreciated.
 
 This means we need more testers.
 
 Openrc being so central to Gentoo, may I suggest a bigger campaign, on
 planet gnome and other outlets?

I would be very interested in seeing some kind of list/review of all the
advantages of the new system. Idea for the Newsletter?

Marijn


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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:44 Wed 13 Apr , Marijn wrote:
 I would be very interested in seeing some kind of list/review of all 
 the advantages of the new system. Idea for the Newsletter?

We should certainly get a news item together, since this is a huge deal 
for Gentoo. Although no doubt non-Gentoo people will start laughing at 
yet another new init system. =)

If there's a guide around already, or a blog post, or you want to draft 
something, let me know and I'd be happy to polish it up.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.com


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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Alex Alexander
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 07:00:44AM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 On 13:44 Wed 13 Apr , Marijn wrote:
  I would be very interested in seeing some kind of list/review of all 
  the advantages of the new system. Idea for the Newsletter?
 
 We should certainly get a news item together, since this is a huge deal 
 for Gentoo. Although no doubt non-Gentoo people will start laughing at 
 yet another new init system. =)

There's a simple solution for that, we just have to include:

26 Mar 2008; Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org
-openrc-0.2_pre20080326.ebuild, +openrc-0.2.ebuild:
add OpenRC 0.2 

25 Mar 2008; Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org
+openrc-0.2_pre20080325.ebuild:
add OpenRC 0.2 pre-release

23 Mar 2008; Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org +metadata.xml,
+openrc-.ebuild:
Initial ebuild #212696.

:)

 If there's a guide around already, or a blog post, or you want to draft 
 something, let me know and I'd be happy to polish it up.
 
 -- 
 Thanks,
 Donnie
 
 Donnie Berkholz
 Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux
 Blog: http://dberkholz.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:00:44 -0500
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On 13:44 Wed 13 Apr , Marijn wrote:
  I would be very interested in seeing some kind of list/review of
  all the advantages of the new system. Idea for the Newsletter?
 
 We should certainly get a news item together, since this is a huge

Is that a news item or a newsletter item?

 deal for Gentoo. Although no doubt non-Gentoo people will start
 laughing at yet another new init system. =)

1) It's a couple of years old now. :)
2) Having used it all that time on some systems, I don't see that many
   superficial changes, or for that matter, deviations from the old init
   system. I would rather think baselayout-2/openrc simply extends and
   improves on baselayout-1.


 jer



Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 07:00:44AM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 We should certainly get a news item together, since this is a huge deal 
 for Gentoo. Although no doubt non-Gentoo people will start laughing at 
 yet another new init system. =)

Openrc is not just a gentoo init system; I know that at least
Alpine Linux [1] also uses it.

William

[1] http://www.alpinelinux.org



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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 08:00:44 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 On 13:44 Wed 13 Apr , Marijn wrote:
  I would be very interested in seeing some kind of list/review of all
  the advantages of the new system. Idea for the Newsletter?
 
 We should certainly get a news item together, since this is a huge deal
 for Gentoo. Although no doubt non-Gentoo people will start laughing at
 yet another new init system. =)

also, we're still sitting on top of classical sysvinit, so i'm not sure openrc 
technically qualifies as an init system.  certainly not a full one.
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:54:24PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 also, we're still sitting on top of classical sysvinit, so i'm not sure 
 openrc 
 technically qualifies as an init system.  certainly not a full one.

That's true. Openrc is not really a full init system. It is a set of
init scripts, with a large part of its functionality written in c
instead of using shell scripts.

In light of this, I have s/init system/init scripts/ in the news item. I
will wait a few days and send it out again after I encorporate any other
changes that come from the list.

William



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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.8.1 stable candidate

2011-04-12 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/12/11 16:56, William Hubbs wrote:
 All,
 
 at long last, we have an openrc stable candidate.
 
Thanks to all who kept chiseling away at this issue - it's nice to see
that we still can get things done, even if it sometimes takes a week or
hundred more than initially planned.

I hope it all goes well!

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